| Tory voters have carefully weighed up all the facts on 16:45 - Mar 9 with 532 views | jeera |
| Tory voters have carefully weighed up all the facts on 15:54 - Mar 9 by TieDyedIn95 |
100 thousand people have died, and countless more have had their lives ruined by this disease and they can only think of themselves.
As for Harry, I am no royalist but the way he's thrown his nan under the bus while she's approaching her time just to tell the world that his family is shte (we already know) just shows the level of the man. He's now got chunks of people alleging his nan is a racist while his wife is comparing herself to the Little Mermaid. Someone ought to point out to her that's also a fairytale.
What a couple of self serving scumbags they are, like the rest of their family. Once the Queen passes we should just do away with it all. |
Who is calling his nan a racist?
I'm not saying you're wrong, just that I haven't spotted it yet.
They were very clear in saying it was not her (or bizarrely even the old boy!) they were referring to.
Maybe there's an element of people drawing their own conclusions despite not watching it. |  |
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| Tory voters have carefully weighed up all the facts on 16:48 - Mar 9 with 533 views | BlueBadger |
| Tory voters have carefully weighed up all the facts on 15:57 - Mar 9 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
You must be new around here?
Seem like horrible humans on “all sides” to me. |
Ah yes, 'fine people on both sides'. |  |
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| Tory voters have carefully weighed up all the facts on 16:51 - Mar 9 with 524 views | You_Bloo_Right |
| Tory voters have carefully weighed up all the facts on 16:06 - Mar 9 by WeWereZombies |
The trouble with the decal exhibiting counter culture was that easily adopted short phrases were just as easily licked off. To take a simple view of Marshall McLuhan's 'the medium is the message', if you like to be one of the crowd and to have an uncomplicated thought then in the Seventies you could wear something with 'Keep On Trucking' emblazoned on it and for the last five years you could sport an item with 'MAGA' on it.or 'Vote Leave' this side of the pond, without having to engage deeply on any underlying implications. This may seem condescending on my part but I have too often found that a simple question about,for example, just going along with the flow or trying to define how great or sovereignty are effectively achieved in a connected and interdependent World can be met with consternation.
So the dialectic of experience, of seeing old patterns in new situations, can bring about a world weary acceptance of established institutions like the monarchy but coupled with an appreciation of the limitations of alternatives. 'I didn't ask to be born and I want everything to be done differently' becomes a tacit approval of the way things are and what little can be done to advance social justice. And the importance of getting that little improvement done as well as the next little improvement to social justice after that first foundation is laid, instead of chasing unicorns and finding out that the unicorns run too fast...or are mirages...that run too fast.
So that is some of the reason why I have ended up as a monarchist (note the small 'm') and a unionist (if I could make the 'u' smaller I would) at sixty five. And a socialist and an internationalist. Because you need some nice big questions to keep yourself occupied in your dotage. |
That's all well and good but what about the Pot Noodle flavours question? |  |
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| Tory voters have carefully weighed up all the facts on 16:53 - Mar 9 with 518 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Tory voters have carefully weighed up all the facts on 16:48 - Mar 9 by BlueBadger |
Ah yes, 'fine people on both sides'. |
Not sure your point? Pretty sure that’s the opposite of what I said? |  | | |
| Tory voters have carefully weighed up all the facts on 16:54 - Mar 9 with 515 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Tory voters have carefully weighed up all the facts on 16:18 - Mar 9 by TieDyedIn95 |
But they are? A million people have it worse than they do, fundamentally he married someone his family doesn't like "allegedly". Oh well. They live in an absolute nonsense bubble. There is tons of wrong going on in the world, they weren't getting enough attention so sold their story. It's all so absolutely pathetic.
Scrap it. |
The bit you are missing out is the bit about the pregnant woman experiencing controlling and coercive behaviour, whilst thousands of miles away from home and support networks, being lied about in the press continually, then and now.
Oh, and the bit about how the Dad-to-be saw his pregnant wife struggling with depression because she was being harassed by the same combination of controlling behaviour from the Palace and intrusion, speculation and attacks from the media, which led to his mother's death.
He did the right thing by getting them both out of there.
As for your comments on his character: maybe ask a few of the people at the Invictus games what they think of his character? | | | |
| Tory voters have carefully weighed up all the facts on 17:01 - Mar 9 with 497 views | jeera |
| Tory voters have carefully weighed up all the facts on 16:54 - Mar 9 by ArnoldMoorhen |
The bit you are missing out is the bit about the pregnant woman experiencing controlling and coercive behaviour, whilst thousands of miles away from home and support networks, being lied about in the press continually, then and now.
Oh, and the bit about how the Dad-to-be saw his pregnant wife struggling with depression because she was being harassed by the same combination of controlling behaviour from the Palace and intrusion, speculation and attacks from the media, which led to his mother's death.
He did the right thing by getting them both out of there.
As for your comments on his character: maybe ask a few of the people at the Invictus games what they think of his character? |
Quite. It was all laid out very clearly and it's difficult to understand how anyone could be struggling with this.
The contrast of press reports on the two women is shocking when placed side by side.
They were driven out in the way his mother was and I believe what they say, what's there to doubt?
Harry acknowledged he had been born into privilege, but as he said, he didn't ask to be born into that.
As for Markle, people tend to forget she had made a success of her life off her own back before meeting matey; worked as a waitress etc in the past until acting took off.
Not your typical 'royal' by any stretch. | |
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| Tory voters have carefully weighed up all the facts on 17:48 - Mar 9 with 458 views | WeWereZombies |
| Tory voters have carefully weighed up all the facts on 16:51 - Mar 9 by You_Bloo_Right |
That's all well and good but what about the Pot Noodle flavours question? |
Zeitgeist and chicken, obviously. |  |
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| Tory voters have carefully weighed up all the facts on 18:36 - Mar 9 with 438 views | BlueBadger |
| Tory voters have carefully weighed up all the facts on 16:23 - Mar 9 by brazil1982 |
Does your analysis also "conclude" that this applies to the Labour and Lib Dem voters of a certain age too? Or are the exempt? |
Choo choo! The whataboutery train has just arrived at platform 6! | |
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| Tory voters have carefully weighed up all the facts on 18:39 - Mar 9 with 432 views | 26_Paz |
I think it’s a bit juvenile to ‘support’ one side over the other. Here’s the Paz Man’s take on the situation:
Did Harry and Meghan go through a difficult time? - certainly
Should the palace have supported them better - probably
Have we only heard one side of the story - certainly
Will the other side of the story be very different - probably
Is their reaction poorly timed (given hospitalisation of grandfather) - certainly
Is their reaction disrespectful to an ‘institution’ that has afforded Harry all the privileges in the world - probably
In summary some sympathy for Harry and Meghan. I don’t think they’ve reacted in the right way. |  |
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| Tory voters have carefully weighed up all the facts on 18:43 - Mar 9 with 430 views | SpruceMoose |
| Tory voters have carefully weighed up all the facts on 18:39 - Mar 9 by 26_Paz |
I think it’s a bit juvenile to ‘support’ one side over the other. Here’s the Paz Man’s take on the situation:
Did Harry and Meghan go through a difficult time? - certainly
Should the palace have supported them better - probably
Have we only heard one side of the story - certainly
Will the other side of the story be very different - probably
Is their reaction poorly timed (given hospitalisation of grandfather) - certainly
Is their reaction disrespectful to an ‘institution’ that has afforded Harry all the privileges in the world - probably
In summary some sympathy for Harry and Meghan. I don’t think they’ve reacted in the right way. |
Does Paz defend people for using terms such as 'Pickaninny'? - Certainly
Does that mean we can safely ignore his opinions here? - Definitely |  |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Tory voters have carefully weighed up all the facts on 18:45 - Mar 9 with 424 views | 26_Paz |
| Tory voters have carefully weighed up all the facts on 18:43 - Mar 9 by SpruceMoose |
Does Paz defend people for using terms such as 'Pickaninny'? - Certainly
Does that mean we can safely ignore his opinions here? - Definitely |
Is spruce moose the most predictable poster on TWTD - certainly | |
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| Tory voters have carefully weighed up all the facts on 18:47 - Mar 9 with 422 views | SpruceMoose |
| Tory voters have carefully weighed up all the facts on 18:45 - Mar 9 by 26_Paz |
Is spruce moose the most predictable poster on TWTD - certainly |
What were you expecting? Poster with long history of backing up racists now wants to have his thoughts on race listened to?
Give us a break, "Paz Man". | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Tory voters have carefully weighed up all the facts on 18:50 - Mar 9 with 417 views | 26_Paz |
| Tory voters have carefully weighed up all the facts on 18:47 - Mar 9 by SpruceMoose |
What were you expecting? Poster with long history of backing up racists now wants to have his thoughts on race listened to?
Give us a break, "Paz Man". |
I was simply offering my views on the subject in question. As is my right as a member of this forum. I won’t be subjecting the rest of our community to another 10 pages of me and you arguing. Enjoy the game. | |
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| Tory voters have carefully weighed up all the facts on 18:51 - Mar 9 with 415 views | SpruceMoose |
| Tory voters have carefully weighed up all the facts on 18:50 - Mar 9 by 26_Paz |
I was simply offering my views on the subject in question. As is my right as a member of this forum. I won’t be subjecting the rest of our community to another 10 pages of me and you arguing. Enjoy the game. |
That's it lad, scurry off. My work here is done. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| It does on here. (n/t) on 18:52 - Mar 9 with 414 views | eireblue |
| It does on here. (n/t) on 16:24 - Mar 9 by GlasgowBlue |
I don't think you can claim to be anti racist unless you fully get behind a man who has dressed as a Nazi and is known to have referred to people with dark skin as "Pakis" and "Ragheads". |
....and has now shown the maturity and ability to reflect and change.
Something many of us can learn from. |  | | |
| Tory voters have carefully weighed up all the facts on 18:57 - Mar 9 with 391 views | brazil1982 |
| Tory voters have carefully weighed up all the facts on 18:50 - Mar 9 by 26_Paz |
I was simply offering my views on the subject in question. As is my right as a member of this forum. I won’t be subjecting the rest of our community to another 10 pages of me and you arguing. Enjoy the game. |
He's obsessed with you. Probably not in a particular good way either. |  | | |
| Tory voters have carefully weighed up all the facts on 19:01 - Mar 9 with 366 views | 26_Paz |
| Tory voters have carefully weighed up all the facts on 18:57 - Mar 9 by brazil1982 |
He's obsessed with you. Probably not in a particular good way either. |
Yeah, I understand that now and just won’t indulge him. | |
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| Tory voters have carefully weighed up all the facts on 19:03 - Mar 9 with 360 views | SpruceMoose |
| Tory voters have carefully weighed up all the facts on 19:01 - Mar 9 by 26_Paz |
Yeah, I understand that now and just won’t indulge him. |
You love it! | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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