| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:16 - Mar 13 with 548 views | footers |
| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:13 - Mar 13 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Do you know the lovely hippy campsite at Sea Palling? |
I don't. Do tell?
I'm sort of fed up with the hippy thing since having to wash with a kettle and bucket for two years. Now it's more of a glamping vibe if anything, old fruit.
Comfort over ethics always. |  |
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| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:17 - Mar 13 with 547 views | bluelagos |
| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:05 - Mar 13 by GlasgowBlue |
I hadn't realised just how far the rest of Europe is behind the UK in their vaccine roll out.
We are on course for all over 18's to be vaccinated by the end of May but if there are still high infection rates and huge numbers of unvaccinated adults in European countries then those destinations are out of the question this year.
We are supposed to be at a wine festival in Germany this summer but it looks like Tel Aviv will be the destination of choice for family Glassers in August. [Post edited 13 Mar 2021 10:06]
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It's developing into a huge problem.
IF say France only get to say 50% of the population vaccinated, will we even be allowed to travel there?
Or would we need to quarantine on our return? If vaccinated?
Lots of what ifs which I guess we'll find out about soon enough. |  |
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| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:17 - Mar 13 with 545 views | Herbivore |
That is an outrage! |  |
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| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:18 - Mar 13 with 541 views | footers |
| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:17 - Mar 13 by Herbivore |
That is an outrage! |
The Bulldog will never die. | |
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| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:19 - Mar 13 with 541 views | Radlett_blue |
| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 09:38 - Mar 13 by StokieBlue |
Europe are unfortunately now having to deal with the variants including the UK B117 variant. It's just so much more infectious it makes things very difficult.
In this country we are through that specific issue as 98% of all cases in the UK are now the B117 variant.
Worth noting that vaccination does give good protection against the B117 variant. Personally I don't understand the rush to get abroad as soon as is absolutely possible.
SB |
It's been a year without overseas travel for most people (I was lucky enough to spend November in Tenerife) & it's understandable that people want their couple of weeks in the sun & a change in their routine from the current get up/work/clean/cook. Travel companies are now obviously offering flexible booking options so no wonder people want some hope & optionality, while cottages in the UK for the summer are proving hugely popular. |  |
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| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:20 - Mar 13 with 537 views | bluelagos |
| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:06 - Mar 13 by footers |
I have no idea why people are all clamouring for holidays right now. Covid aside, it's going to be fookin expensive and everywhere'll be rammed for the next year at least. I'm happy enough to wait till after all the [redacted]s of this world get their week in the Canaries.
Then it's off to Hemsby. |
Have you seen the prices for UK holidays this year?
For some people, a package trip abroad is a whole lot more affordable. | |
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| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:22 - Mar 13 with 524 views | bluelagos |
| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:18 - Mar 13 by footers |
The Bulldog will never die. |
May not die - but we may not be getting in! | |
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| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:22 - Mar 13 with 523 views | Herbivore |
| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:18 - Mar 13 by footers |
The Bulldog will never die. |
Bit common for me, mate. | |
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| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:23 - Mar 13 with 519 views | Keno |
| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:22 - Mar 13 by Herbivore |
Bit common for me, mate. |
you can always try the Bulldog in Brighton |  |
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| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:25 - Mar 13 with 514 views | footers |
| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:20 - Mar 13 by bluelagos |
Have you seen the prices for UK holidays this year?
For some people, a package trip abroad is a whole lot more affordable. |
Yeah, the domestic holiday packages are eye-wateringly expensive. Might do a long weekend in the UK at some point this year though. Just not keen on being part of the mad rush that's about to take place. And still not been jabbed anyway, so best stay put for now! | |
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| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:28 - Mar 13 with 508 views | footers |
| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:22 - Mar 13 by Herbivore |
Bit common for me, mate. |
Going to Amsterdam just to smoke dope and visit the sex museum is, let's face it, the behaviour of a basic bitch.
Ogling the girls in the red light district is the preserve of the true intellectual. | |
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| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:28 - Mar 13 with 509 views | bluelagos |
| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:25 - Mar 13 by footers |
Yeah, the domestic holiday packages are eye-wateringly expensive. Might do a long weekend in the UK at some point this year though. Just not keen on being part of the mad rush that's about to take place. And still not been jabbed anyway, so best stay put for now! |
If you are flexible - I think that Simon Calder bloke basically said that the two weeks after it's allowed (whenever that it is) are super pricey - school holidays too.
But the bit in between isn't too bad atm.
I tried to book a number of UK campsites last summer and most of them closed the toilet/shower blocks - which is really helping if you are tenting. Hopefully this year will be a bit more tent friendly... | |
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| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:31 - Mar 13 with 501 views | leitrimblue |
| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:28 - Mar 13 by footers |
Going to Amsterdam just to smoke dope and visit the sex museum is, let's face it, the behaviour of a basic bitch.
Ogling the girls in the red light district is the preserve of the true intellectual. |
There's girls in Amsterdam? |  | | |
| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:33 - Mar 13 with 498 views | footers |
| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:31 - Mar 13 by leitrimblue |
There's girls in Amsterdam? |
There are. But always be sure to check under the bonnet before taking them for a test drive.
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| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:37 - Mar 13 with 495 views | StokieBlue |
| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:09 - Mar 13 by Bluefish |
It is one of the things that I live my life for. City breaks seeing the world or 2 weeks of bliss in a villa with the family. Nothing ever compares to the relaxation of being in a completely different country and spending time with each other. 2 weeks in a remote villa with my family where you spend all day outside and eat outside seems a safe thing to do and perfect for mental well being |
I agree, city breaks are fantastic.
The general point is that all the cities will still be there in 2022 and everyone in those cities will hopefully have been vaccinated then.
I certainly don't blame anyone for wanting a city break, I'd love one but I think the one thing we can really take from the pandemic is that rushing in because we "want" something has nearly always lead to very bad results.
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| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:43 - Mar 13 with 479 views | giant_stow |
| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:06 - Mar 13 by footers |
I have no idea why people are all clamouring for holidays right now. Covid aside, it's going to be fookin expensive and everywhere'll be rammed for the next year at least. I'm happy enough to wait till after all the [redacted]s of this world get their week in the Canaries.
Then it's off to Hemsby. |
Don't mock Hemsby! If I'm lucky enough to book a spot in Winterton, I'll be taking the boy there most days (the poor little thing) |  |
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| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:43 - Mar 13 with 480 views | Radlett_blue |
| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:37 - Mar 13 by StokieBlue |
I agree, city breaks are fantastic.
The general point is that all the cities will still be there in 2022 and everyone in those cities will hopefully have been vaccinated then.
I certainly don't blame anyone for wanting a city break, I'd love one but I think the one thing we can really take from the pandemic is that rushing in because we "want" something has nearly always lead to very bad results.
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The only problem with short City breaks is that with all the protocol & malarkey at airports these days you waste a day at each end travelling, unless you want to get up at 4am for a 7:30 flight. So a disproportionately small amount of time in the city of your choice. | |
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| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:43 - Mar 13 with 476 views | Bluefish |
| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:37 - Mar 13 by StokieBlue |
I agree, city breaks are fantastic.
The general point is that all the cities will still be there in 2022 and everyone in those cities will hopefully have been vaccinated then.
I certainly don't blame anyone for wanting a city break, I'd love one but I think the one thing we can really take from the pandemic is that rushing in because we "want" something has nearly always lead to very bad results.
SB |
I haven't booked any city breaks so far and didn't go on any last year but I normally have about 3 per year. I have however booked the same 2 weeks in crete in August, I see it as extremely low risk. I wouldn't probably do it in a big hotel but this is a remote private villa |  |
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| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:50 - Mar 13 with 466 views | StokieBlue |
| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:43 - Mar 13 by Radlett_blue |
The only problem with short City breaks is that with all the protocol & malarkey at airports these days you waste a day at each end travelling, unless you want to get up at 4am for a 7:30 flight. So a disproportionately small amount of time in the city of your choice. |
I don't disagree, my point was directly in response to him wanting city breaks back.
The general point is that rushing in hasn't served us well thus far. Having said that I'd like a holiday as much as the next person but it has to be done right. I travel quite a bit so it's been one of the things I've really missed.
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| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:51 - Mar 13 with 463 views | Bluefish |
| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:01 - Mar 13 by BanksterDebtSlave |
First time we've been able to afford a holiday during Summer in ages....booked it just before the annoucements since when it has gone up by 1/3. |
Worth looking again. I was watching prices from September and they were crazy, dipped briefly in Jan so I quickly booked. Been feeling smug since because shot back up, this week they have absolutely plummeted. Less than half where they were
This is just flights not a package | |
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| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:55 - Mar 13 with 456 views | Bluefish |
| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:43 - Mar 13 by Radlett_blue |
The only problem with short City breaks is that with all the protocol & malarkey at airports these days you waste a day at each end travelling, unless you want to get up at 4am for a 7:30 flight. So a disproportionately small amount of time in the city of your choice. |
Not always. I've done many 24 hours breaks but also lots of 2 nights. I live less than 10 mins from East Mids Airport so easy to get there and back, for a short break you need to be there an hour before. Can do likes of Barcelona easily or Amsterdam. We have also utilised eurostar for Brussels trips or driven across to bruges which really doesn't take long at all through the tunnel | |
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| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 11:00 - Mar 13 with 450 views | bluelagos |
| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:37 - Mar 13 by StokieBlue |
I agree, city breaks are fantastic.
The general point is that all the cities will still be there in 2022 and everyone in those cities will hopefully have been vaccinated then.
I certainly don't blame anyone for wanting a city break, I'd love one but I think the one thing we can really take from the pandemic is that rushing in because we "want" something has nearly always lead to very bad results.
SB |
If I may (indulge me Stokie) I think you are getting close to venturing into:-
"I don't think xyz is safe, therefore other people should not do xyz"
I challenge that for a couple of reasons. Firstly 99% of people won't have your in depth, scientific and thorough approach to data and or knowledge of the risks.
Secondly, another chunk (like me) don't see it as our role to develop that level of knowledge. Of course we should be aware, and I checked out CV rates in different places last year for example, changing my destination from Spain to Germany for that very reason.
But ultimately - if the govt tells me it's legal to go somewhere and or do something, that's pretty much good enough for me. I place my trust in them to make the right call - whilst also still being sensible, minimising indoor an social contacts etc.
So I will be looking to travel once it's legal, on the assumption that the govt will only allow it if it's safe to do so. And of course I'll happily quarantine etc. if that's the legal position.
Final part of the equation will be is it worth the effort of travel (in terms of things being open etc.) which is another consideration. Which is why I think late summer (rather than say May) for me. | |
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| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 11:03 - Mar 13 with 443 views | bluelagos |
| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 10:55 - Mar 13 by Bluefish |
Not always. I've done many 24 hours breaks but also lots of 2 nights. I live less than 10 mins from East Mids Airport so easy to get there and back, for a short break you need to be there an hour before. Can do likes of Barcelona easily or Amsterdam. We have also utilised eurostar for Brussels trips or driven across to bruges which really doesn't take long at all through the tunnel |
I used Eurstar for the first ever time a couple of years back for a break in Paris. Couldn't believe how much easier it is compared to the alternatives. | |
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| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 11:10 - Mar 13 with 425 views | StokieBlue |
| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 11:00 - Mar 13 by bluelagos |
If I may (indulge me Stokie) I think you are getting close to venturing into:-
"I don't think xyz is safe, therefore other people should not do xyz"
I challenge that for a couple of reasons. Firstly 99% of people won't have your in depth, scientific and thorough approach to data and or knowledge of the risks.
Secondly, another chunk (like me) don't see it as our role to develop that level of knowledge. Of course we should be aware, and I checked out CV rates in different places last year for example, changing my destination from Spain to Germany for that very reason.
But ultimately - if the govt tells me it's legal to go somewhere and or do something, that's pretty much good enough for me. I place my trust in them to make the right call - whilst also still being sensible, minimising indoor an social contacts etc.
So I will be looking to travel once it's legal, on the assumption that the govt will only allow it if it's safe to do so. And of course I'll happily quarantine etc. if that's the legal position.
Final part of the equation will be is it worth the effort of travel (in terms of things being open etc.) which is another consideration. Which is why I think late summer (rather than say May) for me. |
"I challenge that for a couple of reasons. Firstly 99% of people won't have your in depth, scientific and thorough approach to data and or knowledge of the risks."
That doesn't mean the risks aren't there.
"But ultimately - if the govt tells me it's legal to go somewhere and or do something, that's pretty much good enough for me. I place my trust in them to make the right call - whilst also still being sensible, minimising indoor an social contacts etc."
This is more my point, the question is should it be legal to do so. Fully understand that people will go (and should) if the government say it's legal but my point is that applying pressure to the government has resulted in decisions which have been pretty bad in hindsight. Doing the same around this issue definitely has the scope for a similar outcome.
For instance, allowing foreign holidays last summer (under pressure from the travel companies and the public) resulted in an imported variant from Spain becoming the dominant variant for months. What if that variant had been worse than our eventual B117 variant? The risks of this are greatly diminished when other countries have far more people vaccinated like we will do.
Now of course not all risk can be eliminated and as with you, I'll expect the government to make the right decision based on it's advisors, it's more the theme of this thread was "best wait to book a holiday" and I think that might be fairly sound advice.
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| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 11:14 - Mar 13 with 406 views | bluelagos |
| I wouldn't book a holiday yet if I were you on 11:10 - Mar 13 by StokieBlue |
"I challenge that for a couple of reasons. Firstly 99% of people won't have your in depth, scientific and thorough approach to data and or knowledge of the risks."
That doesn't mean the risks aren't there.
"But ultimately - if the govt tells me it's legal to go somewhere and or do something, that's pretty much good enough for me. I place my trust in them to make the right call - whilst also still being sensible, minimising indoor an social contacts etc."
This is more my point, the question is should it be legal to do so. Fully understand that people will go (and should) if the government say it's legal but my point is that applying pressure to the government has resulted in decisions which have been pretty bad in hindsight. Doing the same around this issue definitely has the scope for a similar outcome.
For instance, allowing foreign holidays last summer (under pressure from the travel companies and the public) resulted in an imported variant from Spain becoming the dominant variant for months. What if that variant had been worse than our eventual B117 variant? The risks of this are greatly diminished when other countries have far more people vaccinated like we will do.
Now of course not all risk can be eliminated and as with you, I'll expect the government to make the right decision based on it's advisors, it's more the theme of this thread was "best wait to book a holiday" and I think that might be fairly sound advice.
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