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European super league on 19:20 - Apr 18 by giant_stow
Assuming rhe national leagues threats are serious and they have to choose between this new thing or staying out, i think this will fail badly. I can't see fans of those clubs supporting it for a start. It may start and burn brightly for a year or two, but then fade badly as its inbuilt boredom through lack of sporting integrity kicks in.
Let them fck off and give a minimum say 50 years till they can re-apply for status starting in div 5 or 6
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European super league on 19:26 - Apr 18 with 778 views
European super league on 18:26 - Apr 18 by yesjohn99
Any point in winning your domestic title if it doesn’t include the ‘best’ teams from your country? Not for me. Devalues the national game beyond belief in my opinion. The TV money will dry up and can’t see too many clubs surviving.
RIP football (again, first time being 1992).
1961 was another year it RIP´d ....Jimmy Hill ,Max wage and all that
European super league on 19:15 - Apr 18 by pointofblue
Copied from elsewhere but some of the reported proposals, according to The Times:
The 15 founder clubs sharing an initial 3.5billion (£3.1billion) euro “infrastructure grant” ranging from £310million to £89million per club which can be spent on stadiums, training facilities or “to replace lost stadium-related revenues due to Covid-19”.
The format would see two groups of 10 clubs who play home and away, with the top four from each group going through to two-legged quarter-finals, semi-finals and a one-legged final.
Matches would be midweek and clubs would still play in domestic leagues.
Clubs would have rights to show four matches a season on their own the digital platforms across the world
Income from TV and sponsorship would favour the founding clubs: 32.5% of the pot would be shared equally between the 15 clubs, and another 32.5% between all Super League clubs including the five qualifiers.
20% of the pot would be merit money “distributed in the same manner as the current English Premier League merit-based system” according to where clubs finish in the competition or group if they don’t make the knock-out stage.
The remaining 15% would a “commercial share based on club awareness”.
A cap of 55% of revenues permitted to be spent on salaries and transfers (net).
A ‘Financial Sustainability Group’ would monitor clubs’ spending.
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The bit about continuing to compete in the domestic leagues could be difficult...
Basically they want literally everything their own way? F##k them.
Apologies if this has been pointed out already, but for all their "European football heritage", Manchester City have won exactly as many European trophies as we have.
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European super league on 20:39 - Apr 18 with 603 views
European super league on 19:15 - Apr 18 by pointofblue
Copied from elsewhere but some of the reported proposals, according to The Times:
The 15 founder clubs sharing an initial 3.5billion (£3.1billion) euro “infrastructure grant” ranging from £310million to £89million per club which can be spent on stadiums, training facilities or “to replace lost stadium-related revenues due to Covid-19”.
The format would see two groups of 10 clubs who play home and away, with the top four from each group going through to two-legged quarter-finals, semi-finals and a one-legged final.
Matches would be midweek and clubs would still play in domestic leagues.
Clubs would have rights to show four matches a season on their own the digital platforms across the world
Income from TV and sponsorship would favour the founding clubs: 32.5% of the pot would be shared equally between the 15 clubs, and another 32.5% between all Super League clubs including the five qualifiers.
20% of the pot would be merit money “distributed in the same manner as the current English Premier League merit-based system” according to where clubs finish in the competition or group if they don’t make the knock-out stage.
The remaining 15% would a “commercial share based on club awareness”.
A cap of 55% of revenues permitted to be spent on salaries and transfers (net).
A ‘Financial Sustainability Group’ would monitor clubs’ spending.
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The bit about continuing to compete in the domestic leagues could be difficult...
Continuing to play in the domestic leagues is jolly decent of them.
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European super league on 21:05 - Apr 18 with 557 views
European super league on 17:55 - Apr 18 by Oldsmoker
If anybody doesn't think this will be successful then they're wrong. Money talks. When the Premier League started it was just Sky - now it's Sky, BT, Amazon Prime and the Chinese. They'll all want a piece of the action. They will make it successful.
Football didn't exist before the creation of the European Super League.
The Premier League TV contract will be 20% of what it was, seriously slashed, and those clubs with players on high wages will want shot of them which will result in a diminished Premier League. It might bring some hard lessons to the remaining 'top' clubs but it will mean everything from Championship down will become unviable. It could result in 1 + 2 EFL leagues unless the EFL invite the National League to join them. £2000 per week sitting on a bench for a league 1 team will be a thing of the past. Current Ipswich players please note.
Wasn't the Premier League going to be the end of the lower domestic leagues?
The main change that happened was a few fewer clubs in the top flight. Nothing stopped Wigan (or even ironically Man City) getting to the Premier League and Leicester winning it.
EDIT: The important thing if it did happen is ensuring two things:
Promotion and relegation to this European league. If there are 6 sides from England and 2 from each of 7 other European countries, have the lowest two English sides and the lowest of the other countries, relegated to be replaced by the top sides domestically. Alternatively some system of relegation that allows top sides from across Europe to replace whoever is relegated.
Ensuring the sides involved still had sufficient incentive to play their strongest sides domestically. This is the trickier and more important aspect.
SECOND EDIT: Plus it is rather rich of Sky to oppose this after the way they handled the setting up of the Premier League in the first place.
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