European super league 15:34 - Apr 18 with 5472 views | Perublue | It looks like it might finally be happening, on sky news now [Post edited 18 Apr 2021 15:34]
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European super league on 17:23 - Apr 18 with 1995 views | J2BLUE |
European super league on 17:11 - Apr 18 by Guthrum | More competitive. Ipswich's most successful years were when there was a more level financial playing field. |
I mean financially. We've just been taken over by a group looking to make a profit. If there's no big money to be had we're useless to them. | |
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European super league on 17:24 - Apr 18 with 1991 views | Churchman |
European super league on 15:44 - Apr 18 by Illinoisblue | Fook. Them. All. Greedy, vile soulless scum. |
I agree with you. I wish they’d just go, but the consequences are far reaching. The idea is that these clubs become the equivalent of the NBA, NFL etc where everything is geared to them including all the money. It’s something they’ve been working towards for years. I’m not sure the domestic pyramid structure can survive it and certainly there’s no point in people investing in clubs as Gamechanger are (or were) proposing to do. The rump that’s left is never going to command sufficient interest or money to justify it. That’s just a flawed initial view. | | | |
European super league on 17:26 - Apr 18 with 1983 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
European super league on 17:23 - Apr 18 by J2BLUE | I mean financially. We've just been taken over by a group looking to make a profit. If there's no big money to be had we're useless to them. |
In which case how would they respond? Look to sell the club to cut their losses? Look to develop top players to sell to those European teams at massive fees? | |
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European super league on 17:38 - Apr 18 with 1939 views | Westover | I wouldn't watch just greed another nail in the coffin of Football. | | | |
European super league on 17:45 - Apr 18 with 1911 views | DanTheMan | Yes please, hope they all try and it and make themselves irrelevant. | |
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European super league on 17:49 - Apr 18 with 1892 views | Hipsterectomy | The money involved in this would be incredible. Scottish and Irish football already has issues selling its football rights as countries aren't interested. Would many broadcasters pay for a premium package including Everton vs West Ham as the major match in the title race? | |
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European super league on 17:55 - Apr 18 with 1865 views | Oldsmoker | If anybody doesn't think this will be successful then they're wrong. Money talks. When the Premier League started it was just Sky - now it's Sky, BT, Amazon Prime and the Chinese. They'll all want a piece of the action. They will make it successful. Football didn't exist before the creation of the European Super League. The Premier League TV contract will be 20% of what it was, seriously slashed, and those clubs with players on high wages will want shot of them which will result in a diminished Premier League. It might bring some hard lessons to the remaining 'top' clubs but it will mean everything from Championship down will become unviable. It could result in 1 + 2 EFL leagues unless the EFL invite the National League to join them. £2000 per week sitting on a bench for a league 1 team will be a thing of the past. Current Ipswich players please note. | |
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European super league on 17:59 - Apr 18 with 1844 views | StokieBlue |
European super league on 17:55 - Apr 18 by Oldsmoker | If anybody doesn't think this will be successful then they're wrong. Money talks. When the Premier League started it was just Sky - now it's Sky, BT, Amazon Prime and the Chinese. They'll all want a piece of the action. They will make it successful. Football didn't exist before the creation of the European Super League. The Premier League TV contract will be 20% of what it was, seriously slashed, and those clubs with players on high wages will want shot of them which will result in a diminished Premier League. It might bring some hard lessons to the remaining 'top' clubs but it will mean everything from Championship down will become unviable. It could result in 1 + 2 EFL leagues unless the EFL invite the National League to join them. £2000 per week sitting on a bench for a league 1 team will be a thing of the past. Current Ipswich players please note. |
Quite a few big clubs not involved though and only 11 signed up. None of the German clubs involved, only Inter Milan from Italy (edit: just seen it might be Juve and AC as well), PSG not involved. It's basically an England and Spanish league as it stands. I think people will get bored of seeing Real Madrid vs Liverpool frequently, the reason it's good is because it's a rare event. I guess we will see. SB [Post edited 18 Apr 2021 18:00]
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European super league on 18:00 - Apr 18 with 1847 views | MerseyBlue |
European super league on 17:49 - Apr 18 by Hipsterectomy | The money involved in this would be incredible. Scottish and Irish football already has issues selling its football rights as countries aren't interested. Would many broadcasters pay for a premium package including Everton vs West Ham as the major match in the title race? |
I would think that broadcasters would be selling this Super League as a premium add-on. As others have said, it would be a closed shop so would be irrelevant to a lot of fans. If you were a Liverpool fan, would you be happy about this venture? I suspect not as it robs you of the Merseyside Derby, of European Cup football and of course away days for the average Joe. The only fans this will appeal to are the super-wealthy and the glory hunters with more money than sense. Financially it will definitely impact domestic leagues, but that financial levelling off could do the pyramid a world of good. Hopefully the whole thing does happen, flops catastrophically and the big boys have to come back with their tails between their legs begging to be allowed back in... | |
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European super league on 18:02 - Apr 18 with 1838 views | Marshalls_Mullet | Fine. Just make sure it's a one way door. | |
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European super league on 18:03 - Apr 18 with 1837 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
European super league on 17:55 - Apr 18 by Oldsmoker | If anybody doesn't think this will be successful then they're wrong. Money talks. When the Premier League started it was just Sky - now it's Sky, BT, Amazon Prime and the Chinese. They'll all want a piece of the action. They will make it successful. Football didn't exist before the creation of the European Super League. The Premier League TV contract will be 20% of what it was, seriously slashed, and those clubs with players on high wages will want shot of them which will result in a diminished Premier League. It might bring some hard lessons to the remaining 'top' clubs but it will mean everything from Championship down will become unviable. It could result in 1 + 2 EFL leagues unless the EFL invite the National League to join them. £2000 per week sitting on a bench for a league 1 team will be a thing of the past. Current Ipswich players please note. |
I'd be quite happy for the team's to leave and the Prem budget to be 20% of what it was. That's good for the game. | |
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European super league on 18:08 - Apr 18 with 1817 views | bobbyramsey | Well said Gary Neville..... | | | |
European super league on 18:15 - Apr 18 with 1812 views | EastTownBlue |
European super league on 18:08 - Apr 18 by bobbyramsey | Well said Gary Neville..... |
Don't think he agrees with it
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European super league on 18:17 - Apr 18 with 1805 views | Oldsmoker |
European super league on 18:03 - Apr 18 by Marshalls_Mullet | I'd be quite happy for the team's to leave and the Prem budget to be 20% of what it was. That's good for the game. |
As very little has 'trickled down' from the top (except for that green and yellow p*ss in Norfolk) I guess we won't miss them. A levelling out between the Premier League and Championship wage structue will be a good thing for the game in general. | |
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European super league on 18:19 - Apr 18 with 1782 views | Kieran_Knows | Let them all go. Fück them. As I’ve seen it mentioned several times as well, if they really want to go, then let them go completely, no Champions League, no players being called up for national teams, the lot. Then we’ll see how serious they are about it. The game has well and truly gone. | |
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European super league on 18:20 - Apr 18 with 1775 views | HARRY10 | Best news for football for a long while. TV money will be cut meaning a far more realistic pay and transfer structure. Pogba wanting £500,000 a week is absurd, and bears no relation to 99% of the rest of English football/#. I will open up the game, and focus it more on football than simply money that buys 'success'. | | | |
European super league on 18:26 - Apr 18 with 1744 views | pointofblue | I posted that football was dead this morning. Apologies for being about eight hours early. | |
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European super league on 18:26 - Apr 18 with 1744 views | yesjohn99 | Any point in winning your domestic title if it doesn’t include the ‘best’ teams from your country? Not for me. Devalues the national game beyond belief in my opinion. The TV money will dry up and can’t see too many clubs surviving. RIP football (again, first time being 1992). | | | |
European super league on 18:29 - Apr 18 with 1733 views | pointofblue | I said this elsewhere but I think this is a political move as there has been some push back against the Champions League revamp. A threat to try and force people to embrace it rather than protest against it. | |
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European super league on 18:30 - Apr 18 with 1727 views | TheBoyBlue | Proof if ever needed that those running these clubs don't understand what makes football what it is, which is the drama of failure as much as the thrill of victory. They can have their little exhibition matches that real football fans will get bored of and the rest of us can get the beautiful game back. Hopefully it'll become a commercial flop. | |
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European super league on 18:42 - Apr 18 with 1690 views | Chrisd | Pure greed driven by money. | |
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European super league on 18:44 - Apr 18 with 1688 views | Guthrum |
European super league on 17:23 - Apr 18 by J2BLUE | I mean financially. We've just been taken over by a group looking to make a profit. If there's no big money to be had we're useless to them. |
Our income:debt:wagebill ratio doesn't compare too badly to many of the clubs which will be left (our debt and wagebill are lower than those with higher income and vice-versa). Might be a good opportunity to hoover up what money is left floating around. Plus I don't think Sky et al will abandon what's left of the Prem/EFL. Too many fans willing to pay to watch their teams, still profits to be made. | |
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European super league on 19:00 - Apr 18 with 1626 views | Hipsterectomy | I wonder if Celtic and Rangers will join the EPL if this happened | |
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European super league on 19:15 - Apr 18 with 1615 views | pointofblue | Copied from elsewhere but some of the reported proposals, according to The Times: The 15 founder clubs sharing an initial 3.5billion (£3.1billion) euro “infrastructure grant” ranging from £310million to £89million per club which can be spent on stadiums, training facilities or “to replace lost stadium-related revenues due to Covid-19”. The format would see two groups of 10 clubs who play home and away, with the top four from each group going through to two-legged quarter-finals, semi-finals and a one-legged final. Matches would be midweek and clubs would still play in domestic leagues. Clubs would have rights to show four matches a season on their own the digital platforms across the world Income from TV and sponsorship would favour the founding clubs: 32.5% of the pot would be shared equally between the 15 clubs, and another 32.5% between all Super League clubs including the five qualifiers. 20% of the pot would be merit money “distributed in the same manner as the current English Premier League merit-based system” according to where clubs finish in the competition or group if they don’t make the knock-out stage. The remaining 15% would a “commercial share based on club awareness”. A cap of 55% of revenues permitted to be spent on salaries and transfers (net). A ‘Financial Sustainability Group’ would monitor clubs’ spending. ––––––––––––– The bit about continuing to compete in the domestic leagues could be difficult... | |
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European super league on 19:20 - Apr 18 with 1588 views | giant_stow |
European super league on 17:59 - Apr 18 by StokieBlue | Quite a few big clubs not involved though and only 11 signed up. None of the German clubs involved, only Inter Milan from Italy (edit: just seen it might be Juve and AC as well), PSG not involved. It's basically an England and Spanish league as it stands. I think people will get bored of seeing Real Madrid vs Liverpool frequently, the reason it's good is because it's a rare event. I guess we will see. SB [Post edited 18 Apr 2021 18:00]
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Assuming rhe national leagues threats are serious and they have to choose between this new thing or staying out, i think this will fail badly. I can't see fans of those clubs supporting it for a start. It may start and burn brightly for a year or two, but then fade badly as its inbuilt boredom through lack of sporting integrity kicks in. | |
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