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Play offs at best next season 09:14 - Apr 21 with 1579 viewsCopfordBlue

We’ve never been in this position before where we are virtually starting from scratch. At best there are 2 or 3 players worth keeping.

Cook is going to need a year at least to turn this around and put us back on track. It’s not just about going up either, it’s staying up the following season if we do. Promotion next year may be a step too far.

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Play offs at best next season on 09:17 - Apr 21 with 1549 viewsjayessess

Lincoln City have far fewer resources than us and assembled a top 2-competitive squad over a Summer.

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Play offs at best next season on 09:19 - Apr 21 with 1526 viewsCopfordBlue

Play offs at best next season on 09:17 - Apr 21 by jayessess

Lincoln City have far fewer resources than us and assembled a top 2-competitive squad over a Summer.


I don’t know how much change their was there in the summer but it looks as if they’ll be in the play offs this season.

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Play offs at best next season on 09:23 - Apr 21 with 1514 viewsSteve_M

A lot depends on who we bring in and how we start next season. The last two seasons showed that having better players will, more often than not, win games in this division. The impact of good coaching and team structure showed up later.

It is asking a lot for the Summer but Cook is going to have to be aiming for the top two.

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Play offs at best next season on 09:26 - Apr 21 with 1497 viewsSWGF

Blackpool signed 17/18 new players last summer and have now clicked. It does take time to get things to gel although, with due respect to those players Blackpool brought in, it's being insinuated that we're looking at a higher calibre of player so they may be able to come together quicker. Whether Cook is granted that time remains to be seen.

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Play offs at best next season on 09:31 - Apr 21 with 1473 viewsStewart27

No more excuses. No more next season.

If Cook gets investment for the calibre of players that’s been mentioned then we need to hit the ground running.

This league is incredibly poor. There is no reason to think a team of relatively new players can’t win games straight away. Sure we’ll get more fluid as the season goes on but this is league one.
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Play offs at best next season on 09:31 - Apr 21 with 1473 viewsjayessess

Play offs at best next season on 09:19 - Apr 21 by CopfordBlue

I don’t know how much change their was there in the summer but it looks as if they’ll be in the play offs this season.


Lincoln brought in 19 new players, paying no fees. They finished 16h last season and are still in the hunt for the top 2.

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Play offs at best next season on 09:38 - Apr 21 with 1447 viewsGuthrum

Play offs at best next season on 09:23 - Apr 21 by Steve_M

A lot depends on who we bring in and how we start next season. The last two seasons showed that having better players will, more often than not, win games in this division. The impact of good coaching and team structure showed up later.

It is asking a lot for the Summer but Cook is going to have to be aiming for the top two.


We have two advantages in that respect - a good chance of being able to bring in the best players at our current level (history of the club and now probably a bit of money, too), combined with a manager experienced in organising successful teams at our current level.

Town haven't had both of those together for a while.

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Play offs at best next season on 09:54 - Apr 21 with 1383 viewsCheltenham_Blue

Play offs at best next season on 09:17 - Apr 21 by jayessess

Lincoln City have far fewer resources than us and assembled a top 2-competitive squad over a Summer.


But can they stay up.

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Play offs at best next season on 11:28 - Apr 21 with 1322 viewsElephantintheRoom

Excuse me but we've been in this position every year since the here today gone tomorrow short term loans and contracts strategy was adopted.

There is a very thin line between success and failure - teams like Hull and Wycombe have shown that - and Lincoln too this season.

Success comes from having some sort of strategy from the top down. Not much evidence of that since the takeover, which probably explains the collapse in morale of the players - and manager

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Play offs at best next season on 13:38 - Apr 21 with 1234 viewsHARRY10

What happened to 'one of the strongest squads in this league' ?

Did they stop being that because Lambert left (2 wins in 12 games), or perhaps because a better manager took over ?
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Play offs at best next season on 13:41 - Apr 21 with 1219 viewschrismakin

Play offs at best next season on 11:28 - Apr 21 by ElephantintheRoom

Excuse me but we've been in this position every year since the here today gone tomorrow short term loans and contracts strategy was adopted.

There is a very thin line between success and failure - teams like Hull and Wycombe have shown that - and Lincoln too this season.

Success comes from having some sort of strategy from the top down. Not much evidence of that since the takeover, which probably explains the collapse in morale of the players - and manager


No evidence?

Apart from having a chairman, a CEO Organised, a new club secretary coming in, Data driven recruitment, changes to fitness staff etc all in the process of being done

What are you expecting that hasn't been done?

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Play offs at best next season on 13:42 - Apr 21 with 1209 viewsHerbivore

Play offs at best next season on 13:38 - Apr 21 by HARRY10

What happened to 'one of the strongest squads in this league' ?

Did they stop being that because Lambert left (2 wins in 12 games), or perhaps because a better manager took over ?


The previous manager destroyed them, sadly, and also failed to add any real quality to the squad - aside from KVY - over 5 transfer windows. The squad now requires a complete reboot, the players are physically and mentally shot to bits. Had we sacked Lambert in December 2019 instead of giving him a new contract, I expect we'd be in a far better place now.
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Play offs at best next season on 14:04 - Apr 21 with 1160 viewsHARRY10

Play offs at best next season on 13:42 - Apr 21 by Herbivore

The previous manager destroyed them, sadly, and also failed to add any real quality to the squad - aside from KVY - over 5 transfer windows. The squad now requires a complete reboot, the players are physically and mentally shot to bits. Had we sacked Lambert in December 2019 instead of giving him a new contract, I expect we'd be in a far better place now.
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I would suggest we would be in a worse place. Lamberts long contract was in recognition of the amount of work/time it was going to take to put the club and squad back on it's feet

The squad is a reflection of Evans ;on the cheap' policy.... as can be seen in the run down state of the stadium.

Recruitment has been one of bringing in poorly motivated cast offs, who would not look out of place in some 'past their sell by date' food warehouse.

You do not achieve success by replacing Bart, Waghorn and Webster with Holy, Norwood and Ward. A long term policy of flogging off the best and replacing them with duds.

The whole culture of the club has been one of indifference from the top (Clegg, Milne), with only the odd pre ST sale of some vacuous slogan or worthless five point plan to break that position. Neither with the intent or means to follow them through.

Successive managers have faced the anger of fans, while the real cause (Evans) has been allowed to be seen as some benevolent saviour of the club. Much the same deluded nonsense spouted by ignorant east end folk lauding the Krays.

The first steps of dealing with being an alcoholic is admitting it - some now need to ask themselves why they have been so blind to Evans incompetence, for so long.
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Play offs at best next season on 14:06 - Apr 21 with 1146 viewsHerbivore

Play offs at best next season on 14:04 - Apr 21 by HARRY10

I would suggest we would be in a worse place. Lamberts long contract was in recognition of the amount of work/time it was going to take to put the club and squad back on it's feet

The squad is a reflection of Evans ;on the cheap' policy.... as can be seen in the run down state of the stadium.

Recruitment has been one of bringing in poorly motivated cast offs, who would not look out of place in some 'past their sell by date' food warehouse.

You do not achieve success by replacing Bart, Waghorn and Webster with Holy, Norwood and Ward. A long term policy of flogging off the best and replacing them with duds.

The whole culture of the club has been one of indifference from the top (Clegg, Milne), with only the odd pre ST sale of some vacuous slogan or worthless five point plan to break that position. Neither with the intent or means to follow them through.

Successive managers have faced the anger of fans, while the real cause (Evans) has been allowed to be seen as some benevolent saviour of the club. Much the same deluded nonsense spouted by ignorant east end folk lauding the Krays.

The first steps of dealing with being an alcoholic is admitting it - some now need to ask themselves why they have been so blind to Evans incompetence, for so long.


You're being hugely disingenuous with most of this post.

Lambert was terrible here. You called it wrong. Suck it up and move on.

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Play offs at best next season on 14:19 - Apr 21 with 1107 viewsPinewoodblue

Northampton came up, unexpectedly, via play offs. When they played at Portman Road only one the starters played at Wembley. Yesterday they comfortably beat us.

Your post is absolute nonsense. You don’t know which players will still be here next season; you don’t know what signings will be made with no clue as the numbers involved or quality. You d know for certain the current manager will still be here.

How on earth do you feel able to predict how the team will end next season?

Personally I don’t have any clue who will be picked for the next game, or if they will make more than a token effort.

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Play offs at best next season on 14:26 - Apr 21 with 1090 viewsHARRY10

Play offs at best next season on 14:06 - Apr 21 by Herbivore

You're being hugely disingenuous with most of this post.

Lambert was terrible here. You called it wrong. Suck it up and move on.


I am not sure what I am supposed to have called 'it'whatever it is.......Brian or George perhaps ?

There is nothing disingenuous about stating something bluntly, In fact by the definition of that word my comments were quite the opposite

Evans bears sole responsibility for our plight.

Spouting guff about how one manager was the cause rather than Evans, has been easily disproved by the past 12 games.
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Play offs at best next season on 15:48 - Apr 21 with 1014 viewsHerbivore

Play offs at best next season on 14:26 - Apr 21 by HARRY10

I am not sure what I am supposed to have called 'it'whatever it is.......Brian or George perhaps ?

There is nothing disingenuous about stating something bluntly, In fact by the definition of that word my comments were quite the opposite

Evans bears sole responsibility for our plight.

Spouting guff about how one manager was the cause rather than Evans, has been easily disproved by the past 12 games.


It's disingenuous to cite the signings of Holy, Norwood etc as replacing Waghorn, Webster and the like when the players you mention joined one or in some cases two years after the other players had left and when we'd been relegated to League 1.

Lambert was better backed than more or less any other manager at this level. We outbid Championship clubs to sign Norwood and the fee paid for KVY would be a record fee paid for at least half the sides we're competing with in the third division. Even the three loanees he was allowed to sign in his death throes would have been out of reach financially to many of our rivals. Mick could complain about not being backed, but Lambert can have no complaints at all in that regard.

He was utterly hopeless and he helped to leave the squad in an absolute state.

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