| In 12 months 09:10 - May 13 with 1568 views | iamipswich |
I feel this time next year we will either be viewing Cook as one of our most disastrous and conflictive managers ever (and we've had Keane & Lambert) or the ruthless genius who gave the club the hard reset the club so dearly needed.
My word I hope it's the latter.
Also out of interest, who of our current squad is actually still wanted following this morning's news?! KVY, Norwood and that's it? |  |
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| In 12 months on 09:27 - May 13 with 1495 views | saffers12 |
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| In 12 months on 09:48 - May 13 with 1451 views | iamipswich |
| In 12 months on 09:27 - May 13 by saffers12 |
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| In 12 months on 09:49 - May 13 with 1441 views | JammyDodgerrr |
Yes, suspect you're right the only survivors are KVY & Norwood. At a stretch, Nolan might stick around as he's been absent and can see him fitting with Cook.
He got rid of 22 players at Wigan in his first summer, and won the league, so there is a bit of a precedent. |  |
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| In 12 months on 09:52 - May 13 with 1409 views | Swansea_Blue |
Yep. I can see why people are worried, as Cook struggled with what he inherited and the last time we ent through a major overhaul was a disaster under Hurst. But this is a different manager with different owners and a different management team behind him. It doesn't have to go the same way as Hurst's time did. |  |
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| In 12 months on 09:55 - May 13 with 1396 views | itfcjoe |
Yep - we/he are currently walking a huge tight rope as a club.
He has to get it right very quickly, and there is very little margin for error. |  |
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| In 12 months on 09:55 - May 13 with 1372 views | JakeITFC |
| In 12 months on 09:55 - May 13 by itfcjoe |
Yep - we/he are currently walking a huge tight rope as a club.
He has to get it right very quickly, and there is very little margin for error. |
Are we though? Is there much downside from here? |  | | |
| In 12 months on 09:57 - May 13 with 1348 views | BlueBlood90 |
I do trust Cook's judgement and the changes are definitely needed but I hope we're able to actually sign the players he wants to bring in. If we need 15-20 new players then it's going to take a helluva job to get them and then for them to gel as a team in 6 weeks of pre-season.
I don't think our new owners sound like the types who will hang around in making a change of manager if we're languishing in mid table after 10 games. |  |
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| In 12 months on 10:02 - May 13 with 1319 views | iamipswich |
| In 12 months on 09:55 - May 13 by itfcjoe |
Yep - we/he are currently walking a huge tight rope as a club.
He has to get it right very quickly, and there is very little margin for error. |
Agreed - if things aren't clicking by late October/November I suspect the pressure will really be ramping up. | |
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| In 12 months on 10:04 - May 13 with 1304 views | iamipswich |
| In 12 months on 09:55 - May 13 by JakeITFC |
Are we though? Is there much downside from here? |
We thought we were reasonably safe in the Championship before Hurst came in and ripped the squad up and look how that ended up. I think it would be naive to suggest that we've reached our lowest low or that our league standing can't get any worse. | |
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| In 12 months on 10:06 - May 13 with 1295 views | Coco |
| In 12 months on 09:55 - May 13 by itfcjoe |
Yep - we/he are currently walking a huge tight rope as a club.
He has to get it right very quickly, and there is very little margin for error. |
Yeah get it wrong and we could finish mid-table in div three. |  |
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| In 12 months on 10:07 - May 13 with 1287 views | Coco |
| In 12 months on 10:04 - May 13 by iamipswich |
We thought we were reasonably safe in the Championship before Hurst came in and ripped the squad up and look how that ended up. I think it would be naive to suggest that we've reached our lowest low or that our league standing can't get any worse. |
hugely different scenario. | |
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| In 12 months on 10:08 - May 13 with 1275 views | SaigonTractor |
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't extremely anxious. But at least Cook has previous for this with Wigan. |  | | |
| In 12 months on 10:08 - May 13 with 1274 views | Sharkey |
| In 12 months on 09:49 - May 13 by JammyDodgerrr |
Yes, suspect you're right the only survivors are KVY & Norwood. At a stretch, Nolan might stick around as he's been absent and can see him fitting with Cook.
He got rid of 22 players at Wigan in his first summer, and won the league, so there is a bit of a precedent. |
KVY might be feeling a bit relieved he was injured for most of the season. |  | | |
| In 12 months on 10:09 - May 13 with 1269 views | Churchman |
| In 12 months on 09:52 - May 13 by Swansea_Blue |
Yep. I can see why people are worried, as Cook struggled with what he inherited and the last time we ent through a major overhaul was a disaster under Hurst. But this is a different manager with different owners and a different management team behind him. It doesn't have to go the same way as Hurst's time did. |
Agree with that. Last time, Evans trousered half the transfer money raised and gave the rest to diddy Hurst with a wing and a prayer. The garbage he brought in with Evans’ loose change guaranteed relegation. The club is getting close to the bottom now. This League is rubbish. Cook is more than capable and will have the funds to get us out of it.
With new internal structures (CEO etc) and staff it feels like the club is being reset which I think is brilliant. Change is always unsettling, but it’s very exciting. We will be fine. |  | | |
| In 12 months on 10:29 - May 13 with 1207 views | SaigonTractor |
| In 12 months on 10:08 - May 13 by Sharkey |
KVY might be feeling a bit relieved he was injured for most of the season. |
Even with his limited playing time I'd say KVY is quite comfortably our best player. He'd have been fine either way. | | | |
| In 12 months on 12:12 - May 13 with 1107 views | iamipswich |
| In 12 months on 10:07 - May 13 by Coco |
hugely different scenario. |
I agree it's not like for like (new owners, different transfer strategy etc.), but surely there's the obvious downside of ripping the team apart and we get dramatically worse than we were before with players who aren't familiar with each other or Cook's style and we drift further toward obscurity.
For clarity, I'm on board with Cook getting rid of a lot of these useless wastrels who've underperformed for years, but can see that there is a potential downside too, hence the wariness. | |
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| In 12 months on 12:25 - May 13 with 1079 views | jayessess |
| In 12 months on 09:55 - May 13 by JakeITFC |
Are we though? Is there much downside from here? |
There's a massive potential "opportunity cost", isn't there?
We've just had a big takeover and new money come in. We have a new manager. We've conveniently reached a point where 2/3rds of the squad were immediately out of contract and there was a huge opportunity to overhaul the club, even without selling anyone.
There's a big opportunity here to pull everyone together, get a huge wave of enthusiasm going locally and watch the club launch into space.
So the potential downside is that we don't take that opportunity, end up still stuck where we are now and in the process sell a bunch of promising youngsters on the cheap, having spent a decade developing them, then watch them go and flourish at a higher level.
It might all go swimmingly, but let's not pretend there's nothing at stake here. |  |
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| In 12 months on 12:30 - May 13 with 1046 views | gordon |
| In 12 months on 09:55 - May 13 by JakeITFC |
Are we though? Is there much downside from here? |
The pension fund obviously will only fund losses in league one for a very, very limited period - they won't continue to pump money in if it isn't happening on the pitch. Particularly if we intend to break the SCMP rules and just taking large fines, then if there's no promotion in two / three years, the pension fund trustees would get very itchy feet - there would be no justification for continuing to pump money at it.
The downside risk for the club if the pension fund were to heavily invest, and then pull out within a few of years would be enormous. [Post edited 13 May 2021 12:31]
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| In 12 months on 12:32 - May 13 with 1022 views | JakeITFC |
| In 12 months on 12:30 - May 13 by gordon |
The pension fund obviously will only fund losses in league one for a very, very limited period - they won't continue to pump money in if it isn't happening on the pitch. Particularly if we intend to break the SCMP rules and just taking large fines, then if there's no promotion in two / three years, the pension fund trustees would get very itchy feet - there would be no justification for continuing to pump money at it.
The downside risk for the club if the pension fund were to heavily invest, and then pull out within a few of years would be enormous. [Post edited 13 May 2021 12:31]
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This should be positive news then, surely? Seeing as we have a squad of players who have had two goes at trying to get us up. | | | |
| In 12 months on 12:38 - May 13 with 993 views | gordon |
| In 12 months on 12:32 - May 13 by JakeITFC |
This should be positive news then, surely? Seeing as we have a squad of players who have had two goes at trying to get us up. |
Yes and no - I just think that 5 or 6 top quality additions, and moving on those players who were obviously past it (as we have done), would give us the best chance of promotion and also be more prudent financially. | | | |
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