| Interesting article on what is lost with remote working 10:06 - Jun 3 with 1171 views | Steve_M |
It's interesting, in part because it isn't a demand to return to the office full time, but more an exploration of often untangible factors.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jun/03/the-empty-office-what-we-lose-wh
It was that kind of thing that made me think, prior to last Spring, that my job would be very difficult to do remotely. Experience has changed that but there is still a benefit of the incidental interactions. Hybrid working is clearly the way forward in my case.
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| Interesting article on what is lost with remote working on 10:09 - Jun 3 with 1146 views | Herbivore |
I did a survey on returning to the work space yesterday and I think hybrid is the way forward for a lot of us. Working from home has some benefits but there's a lot I miss about physically being at work and going forward I'd like to be able to do both to make the most of my time. |  |
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| Interesting article on what is lost with remote working on 10:11 - Jun 3 with 1133 views | Bluefish |
I had already been working from home for a couple of years before the pandemic but I would go out to see customers a couple of times a week and usually visit the office once a fortnight or so. As a business we had been trying to push the office based teams to also have some of the team at home part if the week before all of this.
Speaking to my office colleagues and lots are loving being home full time. They have no desire to go back to the office but I can't wait. I went down there last week and stayed over so I could visit for a couple of days (and have a boozy bbq). Even the 4.5 hour journey home left me feeling so much more positive. I need to see people and engage with them |  |
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| Interesting article on what is lost with remote working on 10:12 - Jun 3 with 1121 views | footers |
It's not so much about working from home per se, but now, like many in office environments I imagine, we're now going in on set days as specific groups and teams.
There may be several teams in on a certain day but you still won't see many of the people you have social interactions with in other groups because of this new set-up. That takes away a lot of the chance social encounters you'd normally have had pre-covid which is quite sad really. |  |
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| Interesting article on what is lost with remote working on 11:26 - Jun 3 with 987 views | RobTheMonk |
I'm working 3 days on site and 2 from home. Really enjoying the mix myself. All day at home gets boring, all day at work gets tiring. Mix the two and it works pretty well for me. |  | | |
| Interesting article on what is lost with remote working on 11:32 - Jun 3 with 974 views | SomethingBlue |
The incidental exchange bit is really interesting I think.
I also think the social factor is important, where younger people are concerned anyway. I have an entire group of friends that I'm still very close to because 15 years ago, in a cr6p first job after university, we'd leave the office at 5pm and get smashed four nights out of five. OK I'm not doing that now I'm late 30s, and yes there are other ways to bond, but people are going to miss out on a lot and it's a shame. |  |
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| Interesting article on what is lost with remote working on 11:52 - Jun 3 with 919 views | OldTimer2 |
| Interesting article on what is lost with remote working on 11:32 - Jun 3 by SomethingBlue |
The incidental exchange bit is really interesting I think.
I also think the social factor is important, where younger people are concerned anyway. I have an entire group of friends that I'm still very close to because 15 years ago, in a cr6p first job after university, we'd leave the office at 5pm and get smashed four nights out of five. OK I'm not doing that now I'm late 30s, and yes there are other ways to bond, but people are going to miss out on a lot and it's a shame. |
I think that is very true. It is okay for those people that have settled lives and live in comfortable surroundings but for those who are new into the working environment then think it is tougher.
I started a new role in November and have still not met any of my colleagues face to face or set foot on the University campus I am working at. For me that is not a great problem but if you are 20-25 and living at home then suspect that it is not a great experience.
Do get a sense that some companies are rushing too fast into full out home working, largely I suspect to reduce costs. Think it will take a couple of years before we know what is the right balance between home and office. |  |
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| Interesting article on what is lost with remote working on 12:24 - Jun 3 with 859 views | StokieBlue |
It's going to be hybrid working (3/2 or 4/1) most likely but I've been in a couple of days a week for a few weeks now and the meeting I had with people in situ a couple of weeks ago was the most productive meeting I've had since the start of the pandemic.
When discussing complicated subjects I still feel there is no substitute for getting the people together in the room.
It's also much better to integrate and train new joiners with people in the office.
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| Interesting article on what is lost with remote working on 12:28 - Jun 3 with 836 views | Herbivore |
| Interesting article on what is lost with remote working on 11:52 - Jun 3 by OldTimer2 |
I think that is very true. It is okay for those people that have settled lives and live in comfortable surroundings but for those who are new into the working environment then think it is tougher.
I started a new role in November and have still not met any of my colleagues face to face or set foot on the University campus I am working at. For me that is not a great problem but if you are 20-25 and living at home then suspect that it is not a great experience.
Do get a sense that some companies are rushing too fast into full out home working, largely I suspect to reduce costs. Think it will take a couple of years before we know what is the right balance between home and office. |
Similar to you I started a new job last year and I've not even seen my office yet. It's been very strange starting a new job at this time. | |
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| Interesting article on what is lost with remote working on 12:38 - Jun 3 with 809 views | itfctilidie |
My company are doing 2 days mandatory in the office and 3 days at home permanently which is a nice balance.
I think being at home alone too much isn't good for the person or the company.
Very hard for any new starters who need to lean on people for navigating systems, asking questions and generally integrating into the company. They can ask on teams or phone people but again if you are a new starter you could feel uncomfortable or not know who to ask.
Its a massive risk for companies to have people working at home permanently as eventually the people who know the job back to front could leave for pastures new and eventually the knowledge pool could go down significantly |  | | |
| Interesting article on what is lost with remote working on 13:31 - Jun 3 with 753 views | OldTimer2 |
| Interesting article on what is lost with remote working on 12:38 - Jun 3 by itfctilidie |
My company are doing 2 days mandatory in the office and 3 days at home permanently which is a nice balance.
I think being at home alone too much isn't good for the person or the company.
Very hard for any new starters who need to lean on people for navigating systems, asking questions and generally integrating into the company. They can ask on teams or phone people but again if you are a new starter you could feel uncomfortable or not know who to ask.
Its a massive risk for companies to have people working at home permanently as eventually the people who know the job back to front could leave for pastures new and eventually the knowledge pool could go down significantly |
I think that is the sort of balance that most people will end up going for. I think provided companies are reasonably flexible, so that those who want, or need, to be in the office more can and that those who don't still have to spend some time there the so called 'new normal' will be positive.
Unfortunately fear that it will be driven more by cost cutting, as people can reduce space, or by poor bosses who assume that if they can't see you then you are skiving | |
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