| Taking back control is great pt4677644 16:45 - Jun 23 with 4168 views | Dubtractor |
Through my work connections I've been made aware that the new immigration salary threshold is causing a major issue in the haulage/HGV sector - put simply the significant supply of EU drivers that filled a lot of these roles has dried up, as they don't meet the salary threshold.
For balance, the rise in home deliveries over the last few years has also sucked drivers away too, so brexit isn't the only issue.
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| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 17:24 - Jun 23 with 2492 views | Oldsmoker |
Supply and demand innit.
Hey Fatty, stop using Deliveroo and walk to the shops. |  |
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| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 17:37 - Jun 23 with 2455 views | HARRY10 |
Cometh the hour, cometh the fisherman
Can't be much difference between driving a trawler and a truck.
And the good folk of Hartlepool will be knocking each other over to fill these vacant posts, as will all the other 'red wall' malcontents - those who have not already taken jobs in hospitality, and fruit/veg picking, that is. |  | | |
| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 17:42 - Jun 23 with 2451 views | jeera |
| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 17:24 - Jun 23 by Oldsmoker |
Supply and demand innit.
Hey Fatty, stop using Deliveroo and walk to the shops. |
It's ok for you.
You have it all on your doorstep. |  |
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| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 17:49 - Jun 23 with 2424 views | Oldsmoker |
| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 17:42 - Jun 23 by jeera |
It's ok for you.
You have it all on your doorstep. |
Kebabs & beer are not my staple diet.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Excuse me, I think my pant's are on fire. | |
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| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 17:50 - Jun 23 with 2416 views | jeera |
| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 17:49 - Jun 23 by Oldsmoker |
Kebabs & beer are not my staple diet.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Excuse me, I think my pant's are on fire. |
That would be the chilli sauce! | |
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| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 17:52 - Jun 23 with 2400 views | HARRY10 |
"One of the UK’s biggest mobile phone networks has announced roaming charges for Britons travelling to the EU, in a blow to Boris Johnson’s Brexit celebrations.
Customers of O2 have been told they will be billed £3.50 for every gigabyte (GB) of data used above a new limit of 25GB, from August."
and so it goes on, a never ending shtshow of failure and loss for the UK | | | |
| R4 had an investigation on this on 17:58 - Jun 23 with 2390 views | unstableblue |
Logistics and road haulier organisations are basically calling this a crisis, combine this with fruit/veg rotting in fields
Real take of food shortages!!
You couldn’t make it up
Add the completely ludicrous Australia trade deal and we are basically in a mess of our own making |  |
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| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 17:58 - Jun 23 with 2388 views | Oldsmoker |
| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 17:50 - Jun 23 by jeera |
That would be the chilli sauce! |
Demitri always asks if I want a double splosh.
I have never said no. | |
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| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 18:07 - Jun 23 with 2331 views | Timefliesbyintheblue |
Oh dear, does this mean dig for victory will return to these shores - such shortages. Good job my broad beans look like producing a bumper harvest. How I will survive though with only 25gb of mobile data I do not know. Now should I blame Covid or Brexit or Johnson or every Tory voter in the land, or just get on with my life (which believe it or not does include helping others)....such decisions.
It is such a sunny evening here in Ipswich .... | | | |
| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 18:12 - Jun 23 with 2324 views | Coastalblue |
I've the opportunity to take my HGV licenses, paid for, not something I've ever considered in the past but I have to say it's very tempting now. I get the feeling that I'd never be without work as long as I'm physically able to drive and it appears that driver shortages are beginning to push salaries in an upward direction. |  |
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| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 18:19 - Jun 23 with 2290 views | jeera |
| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 18:07 - Jun 23 by Timefliesbyintheblue |
Oh dear, does this mean dig for victory will return to these shores - such shortages. Good job my broad beans look like producing a bumper harvest. How I will survive though with only 25gb of mobile data I do not know. Now should I blame Covid or Brexit or Johnson or every Tory voter in the land, or just get on with my life (which believe it or not does include helping others)....such decisions.
It is such a sunny evening here in Ipswich .... |
What an amazingly humorous post.
Clever stuff, real clever.
Ooh, you've really stuck it to the hauliers there haven't you?
Not a word on the subject as usual.
Why are you here again? [Post edited 23 Jun 2021 20:01]
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| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 18:48 - Jun 23 with 2248 views | factual_blue |
| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 17:49 - Jun 23 by Oldsmoker |
Kebabs & beer are not my staple diet.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Excuse me, I think my pant's are on fire. |
Those are the in fact the original words of Purple Haze. |  |
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| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 18:59 - Jun 23 with 2221 views | Leaky |
| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 17:37 - Jun 23 by HARRY10 |
Cometh the hour, cometh the fisherman
Can't be much difference between driving a trawler and a truck.
And the good folk of Hartlepool will be knocking each other over to fill these vacant posts, as will all the other 'red wall' malcontents - those who have not already taken jobs in hospitality, and fruit/veg picking, that is. |
So whats the problem if there is a shortage of man power the rates of pay will rise can't be bad. Cheap East European labour was holding wages down. Thats why the average working voted leave. |  | | |
| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 19:00 - Jun 23 with 2199 views | gtsb1966 |
| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 18:12 - Jun 23 by Coastalblue |
I've the opportunity to take my HGV licenses, paid for, not something I've ever considered in the past but I have to say it's very tempting now. I get the feeling that I'd never be without work as long as I'm physically able to drive and it appears that driver shortages are beginning to push salaries in an upward direction. |
Bartrums haulage firm in Eye were on the radio the other week saying if people want to join them they have got their own HGV training centre and will pay for people to train and pass their HGV test. With wages heading towards the 40k a year mark it's a good time to do it. |  | | |
| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 19:11 - Jun 23 with 2163 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 18:59 - Jun 23 by Leaky |
So whats the problem if there is a shortage of man power the rates of pay will rise can't be bad. Cheap East European labour was holding wages down. Thats why the average working voted leave. |
It was certainly an issue as supply exceeded demand at the lower end of the pay scale (nb. it's worth noting that in mid- to higher-earning jobs EU migration had the opposite effect, actually increasing wages for Brits in those pay brackets and the overall effect of EU membership on pay was positive).
On the other side of the scale some firms now can't get the labour from the UK and are going bust. Rather than chucking the baby out with the bathwater and screwing everyone over, maybe a sensible solution would have been to do more to ensure people at the lower end of the wage scale were actually getting reasonable wages that allowed them to live without worrying about being in in-work-poverty. We had the power to do that through minimum/living wage legislation all along. |  |
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| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 19:16 - Jun 23 with 2138 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 18:19 - Jun 23 by jeera |
What an amazingly humorous post.
Clever stuff, real clever.
Ooh, you've really stuck it to the hauliers there haven't you?
Not a word on the subject as usual.
Why are you here again? [Post edited 23 Jun 2021 20:01]
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I'm getting strong Old Git vibes, but that might be unfair on Old Git! | |
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| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 19:17 - Jun 23 with 2125 views | Timefliesbyintheblue |
| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 18:19 - Jun 23 by jeera |
What an amazingly humorous post.
Clever stuff, real clever.
Ooh, you've really stuck it to the hauliers there haven't you?
Not a word on the subject as usual.
Why are you here again? [Post edited 23 Jun 2021 20:01]
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Dear Jeera the thread is entitled 'Taking back Control is Great', no mention of Hauliers. I am fully aware that you would rather this site excludes those with differing views to your own, but length of service on TWTD forum is not a prerequisite. To answer your question though of why am I here again; to balance up the agenda and bring some sort of reasoning to the left wing bias of so many of you.
Oh and on the subject of hauliers - they are now being forced to pay a higher wage than previous - the posts will soon be filled. | | | |
| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 19:22 - Jun 23 with 2099 views | Timefliesbyintheblue |
| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 19:16 - Jun 23 by Swansea_Blue |
I'm getting strong Old Git vibes, but that might be unfair on Old Git! |
Ah the cavalry have arrived...... | | | |
| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 19:25 - Jun 23 with 2104 views | bazza |
Wasn’t the threshold lowered ? |  | | |
| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 19:30 - Jun 23 with 2082 views | HARRY10 |
| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 18:59 - Jun 23 by Leaky |
So whats the problem if there is a shortage of man power the rates of pay will rise can't be bad. Cheap East European labour was holding wages down. Thats why the average working voted leave. |
absolute nonsense
whatever rates of pay are offered you cannot simply conjure up qualified HGV drivers - just as restaurants, hotels, bars etc have found with chefs and farmers with experienced and motivated fruit/veg pickers
and most brexiteers have long voted for the Tories, who have consistently fought against the minimum wage, and the right of workers to collectively bargain for improved wages and conditions
brexiteers - never the brightest | | | |
| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 19:31 - Jun 23 with 2079 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 19:22 - Jun 23 by Timefliesbyintheblue |
Ah the cavalry have arrived...... |
Eh? | |
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| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 19:34 - Jun 23 with 2061 views | bazza |
| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 17:52 - Jun 23 by HARRY10 |
"One of the UK’s biggest mobile phone networks has announced roaming charges for Britons travelling to the EU, in a blow to Boris Johnson’s Brexit celebrations.
Customers of O2 have been told they will be billed £3.50 for every gigabyte (GB) of data used above a new limit of 25GB, from August."
and so it goes on, a never ending shtshow of failure and loss for the UK |
People should Boycott o2 … mobile phone cost, and coverage is a disgrace in this country.. | | | |
| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 19:38 - Jun 23 with 2042 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 19:17 - Jun 23 by Timefliesbyintheblue |
Dear Jeera the thread is entitled 'Taking back Control is Great', no mention of Hauliers. I am fully aware that you would rather this site excludes those with differing views to your own, but length of service on TWTD forum is not a prerequisite. To answer your question though of why am I here again; to balance up the agenda and bring some sort of reasoning to the left wing bias of so many of you.
Oh and on the subject of hauliers - they are now being forced to pay a higher wage than previous - the posts will soon be filled. |
Was the "haulage/HGV sector" not enough of a clue?
You seem to be stirring for the sake of it. There's never been a problem with different views on this site. Phil's very good at policing things and dealing with any abusive behaviour. And it's perfectly reasonable to expect people to justify any comments/claims they make. If people can't explain or justify what they are saying it's got nothing to do with any perceived bias. | |
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| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 19:49 - Jun 23 with 2021 views | HARRY10 |
| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 19:31 - Jun 23 by Swansea_Blue |
Eh? |
He means the tens of thousands if HGV drivers, previously not wanting to work because of the low wages, have now been tempted back, thus ending the shortage of said drivers.
In other 'rightie' news the price of fish has dropped dramatically as British fish in British waters have been handing themselves in at places like Grimsby and Padstow, so removing the cost of paying fishermen. | | | |
| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 19:56 - Jun 23 with 1994 views | jeera |
| Taking back control is great pt4677644 on 19:38 - Jun 23 by Swansea_Blue |
Was the "haulage/HGV sector" not enough of a clue?
You seem to be stirring for the sake of it. There's never been a problem with different views on this site. Phil's very good at policing things and dealing with any abusive behaviour. And it's perfectly reasonable to expect people to justify any comments/claims they make. If people can't explain or justify what they are saying it's got nothing to do with any perceived bias. |
Talks sh1t then bangs on about opinions.
But you're not allowed to call them names in case it hurts their feelings. | |
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