| Job seeking: Offered a job in error. What are my rights? 19:52 - Jul 29 with 3581 views | wkj |
When one is job seeking, it is fair to assume most in the situation are under pressure or stress. It is a brutal pursuit with very little in the way of feedback. So when hiring parties make errors - you can appreciate my position is not one of emotional stability
Quick Summary:
I applied for a Job, something I feel qualified for, not the best of Salaries but something that I would be looking at some disposable income with. The hiring party (Public Sector) started using my application information in their test environment - which is fine, companies do this all the time.
However, the emails that it generates left the test environment, and ended up in my inbox. Said emails included a job offer. I was a bit confused as the job offer was different than what I had applied for, so I could see a mistake.
So, I called them - highlighted the mistake, and soon discovered the job offer itself was the mistake, not the information contained within. Their HR department issued a very low-key apology and explained the situation.
In Summary:
I was offered a job, then it was rescinded as it was a mistake. I can hardly complain about it as I am still 'under consideration for the job, however - you can bet your bottom dollar if I don't get the job, I will be wanting to make some waves around it, given how cruel jobseeking can be. The issue is, I am going to have to complain about a public sector agency, and I have entirely no clue what my rights are - if any. |  |
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| Job seeking: Offered a job in error. What are my rights? on 21:43 - Jul 29 with 619 views | factual_blue |
| Job seeking: Offered a job in error. What are my rights? on 20:06 - Jul 29 by wkj |
I don't know if I have the tenacity to complain to St Edmundsbury council about this - I don't think it usually goes that well. |
I've heard complaints just go in the bin.
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| Job seeking: Offered a job in error. What are my rights? on 21:51 - Jul 29 with 608 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Job seeking: Offered a job in error. What are my rights? on 21:30 - Jul 29 by borge |
People change, performance dips, attitudes change. People may be perfectly capable initially and then become less so after time, or they can't evolve or grow in line with the company.
I agree, if there is a capabilities issue or the role becomes redundant then an employer can ultimately dispense with the employee, but rarely is it that straightforward or simple and it certainly isn't a quick process when it comes to capabilities or performance. It's especially not that easy or straightforward for a small company with limited resources.
An employee can hand in their notice at any point and in reality leave without even serving that notice period, whereas an employer (unless willing to take the risk of legal action) has to go through a much more complex and lengthy process to end the relationship. |
And the question in most cases would be what role has the employer had in bringing about those changes? Companies need to take more responsibility for looking after their experienced employees. Capability procedures may not be simple and straightforward but it should not be either. Why shouldn't an employee be able to leave with some notice either? "realistically without notice" is again down to how an employer treats said employee. I know situations where employees have deliberately given as little notice as possible because of the way the employer has treated them, where after the employee has handed in their notice the way the employer then treated them meant they went sick for their notice period (the doctor's words were this is far more common than you may think) and situations where employees have given far more than the required notice period for an employer who has treated them well.
If an employer really values what an employee is offering more than an alternative employer does, they will usually be able to persuade them to stay. |  |
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| Job seeking: Offered a job in error. What are my rights? on 23:01 - Jul 29 with 579 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Can I also just say that if you are considering making a complaint imagine yourself as Mike O'Leary and how he would go about making said complaint. Probably general life advice that for me! | |
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| Job seeking: Offered a job in error. What are my rights? on 07:01 - Jul 30 with 538 views | solomon |
| Job seeking: Offered a job in error. What are my rights? on 20:41 - Jul 29 by borge |
That's totally true ref less than two years' employment Herbivore, but the reverse is true post two years. It is very, very difficult for a scrupulous employer to get rid of an employee after that two year period, with the employee being very well protected. Unfortunately there are too many unscrupulous employers and too few employees who know their rights.
None of that helps ref the OP though... |
Thing is there are lots of bad employers out there that use this 2 year rule to their advantage, I’ve seen it first hand and its not pretty. |  | | |
| Job seeking: Offered a job in error. What are my rights? on 07:14 - Jul 30 with 534 views | bluelagos |
Whilst it sounds frustrating and disappointing to be misled in that way, am struggling to see what you are hoping to acheive.
Unless you say resigned an existing job or turned down other offers, I can't see how you are materially different due to a withdrawn job offer. So your "rights" seem limited in that you haven't suffered any loss.
You are right that making waves now, when in consideration for a job would be counter productive. In a few days/weeks time, making waves then would be for what purpose? Of course you want those responsible to be aware of the mistake but I would guess they already are.
What I would do, would be to ask myself whether I want to work for such an employer? Sounds to me like this has really upset you and I'd ask whether similar situations in future would be a problem.
If it's not so bad as to not want to work for them, I'd put it down to experience and move on. You can make all the waves you want, but it won't enhance your career or your position or likelyhood of finding a new job. Wasted energy on something that is annoying/irritating but ultimately, nothing more. |  |
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| Job seeking: Offered a job in error. What are my rights? on 09:55 - Jul 30 with 499 views | J2BLUE |
Job hunting is soul crushing. I would let it go. Not because it's right or fair enough but because any time you spend on this is another few applications that could go in.
Take positive action. This will only derail you and waste your time. |  |
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| Job seeking: Offered a job in error. What are my rights? on 10:00 - Jul 30 with 492 views | chicoazul |
| Job seeking: Offered a job in error. What are my rights? on 20:08 - Jul 29 by wkj |
No kidding, I am quite stunned about how it all played out. We shall see - even if I do get the job, it doesn't bode well for my working environment seeing how HR/Recruitment is so far. |
Those departments are always filled with useless pagans in the public sector. |  |
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| Job seeking: Offered a job in error. What are my rights? on 10:00 - Jul 30 with 489 views | wkj |
| Job seeking: Offered a job in error. What are my rights? on 07:14 - Jul 30 by bluelagos |
Whilst it sounds frustrating and disappointing to be misled in that way, am struggling to see what you are hoping to acheive.
Unless you say resigned an existing job or turned down other offers, I can't see how you are materially different due to a withdrawn job offer. So your "rights" seem limited in that you haven't suffered any loss.
You are right that making waves now, when in consideration for a job would be counter productive. In a few days/weeks time, making waves then would be for what purpose? Of course you want those responsible to be aware of the mistake but I would guess they already are.
What I would do, would be to ask myself whether I want to work for such an employer? Sounds to me like this has really upset you and I'd ask whether similar situations in future would be a problem.
If it's not so bad as to not want to work for them, I'd put it down to experience and move on. You can make all the waves you want, but it won't enhance your career or your position or likelyhood of finding a new job. Wasted energy on something that is annoying/irritating but ultimately, nothing more. |
Incredibly frustrated for sure. I am mostly concerned now about how the testing environment is able to communicate with the wider email. Furthermore, I was the one who flagged it, and no one in their IT department. The funny thing is, it is an IT role I am applying for.
Right now, I am in a position where a job is needed sooner rather than later, and the role of that type of IT Development isn't really one that comes up often - and it is almost unheard of in a public sector role.
I do have a feeling the most I can do is get in the EADT with a staged frown on my face with my arms crossed. A close second to stock images of fire engines in terms of ridiculousness.
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| Job seeking: Offered a job in error. What are my rights? on 10:01 - Jul 30 with 486 views | chicoazul |
| Job seeking: Offered a job in error. What are my rights? on 20:00 - Jul 29 by Herbivore |
Sadly I don't think you have any rights in that situation, mate. I was dismayed to learn recently just how few rights you have as an employee if you've been with you employer for under 2 years. |
Yep. Your employer can basically do what they want and you have no recourse to tribunal until 2 years. | |
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| Job seeking: Offered a job in error. What are my rights? on 10:05 - Jul 30 with 479 views | wkj |
| Job seeking: Offered a job in error. What are my rights? on 10:00 - Jul 30 by chicoazul |
Those departments are always filled with useless pagans in the public sector. |
That would be why I am so keen to get in | |
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| Job seeking: Offered a job in error. What are my rights? on 10:05 - Jul 30 with 479 views | bluelagos |
| Job seeking: Offered a job in error. What are my rights? on 10:00 - Jul 30 by wkj |
Incredibly frustrated for sure. I am mostly concerned now about how the testing environment is able to communicate with the wider email. Furthermore, I was the one who flagged it, and no one in their IT department. The funny thing is, it is an IT role I am applying for.
Right now, I am in a position where a job is needed sooner rather than later, and the role of that type of IT Development isn't really one that comes up often - and it is almost unheard of in a public sector role.
I do have a feeling the most I can do is get in the EADT with a staged frown on my face with my arms crossed. A close second to stock images of fire engines in terms of ridiculousness.
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"I do have a feeling the most I can do is get in the EADT with a staged frown on my face with my arms crossed"
Exactly. And do you really want to be that person? | |
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| Job seeking: Offered a job in error. What are my rights? on 11:50 - Jul 30 with 448 views | WeWereZombies |
| Job seeking: Offered a job in error. What are my rights? on 10:00 - Jul 30 by chicoazul |
Those departments are always filled with useless pagans in the public sector. |
So all the useful pagans are in the private sector then. Actually, when you come to think about it, that would explain the exploitative nature of capitalism. |  |
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| Job seeking: Offered a job in error. What are my rights? on 19:46 - Aug 20 with 334 views | wkj |
Mini update: I didn't get the job here, though I did today just get offered a position that pays quite a bit better. What a crap thing to do, looking for jobs - I do not recommend it. | |
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| Job seeking: Offered a job in error. What are my rights? on 20:12 - Aug 20 with 301 views | Cotty |
| Job seeking: Offered a job in error. What are my rights? on 19:46 - Aug 20 by wkj |
Mini update: I didn't get the job here, though I did today just get offered a position that pays quite a bit better. What a crap thing to do, looking for jobs - I do not recommend it. |
Congrats, great news. Treat yourself to something to celebrate. X |  | | |
| Job seeking: Offered a job in error. What are my rights? on 20:18 - Aug 20 with 294 views | wkj |
| Job seeking: Offered a job in error. What are my rights? on 20:12 - Aug 20 by Cotty |
Congrats, great news. Treat yourself to something to celebrate. X |
I have already signed up to Bannatyne Health Club in Bury St Edmunds... assuming they've sorted out the pothole problem in the town. | |
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