| PC sacking just creates huge ?????? of the new mgmt team 09:40 - Dec 7 with 2137 views | TooManyCooks |
Once again I find myself full of questions relating to an ITFC decision. In the past it would have been an ME decision not to fund, or to sell a player we appeared to need, but now it's possibly even more worrying, the new saviours, the dynamic crew, those who gave their wholehearted backing and support to PC, funding 19 new players of his choosing, have apparently lost patience after a handful of uninspiring, but certainly not career ending performances. I don't get it, the timing, like, at all.
I understand some of the supporters doubts over the dogged adherence to 4231 and I myself was angered by the Cambridge draw, where shutting up shop seemed the obvious move to gain 3 much needed points.
The problem I've got here, is the new management team vetted PC, they had no obligation to keep him, but they said he was on their shortlist anyway. So, we've got a new team of young, dynamic guys talking about data analytics to support player recruitment and in the same breath employing an old school manager who only plays one system doggedly, that's on them, it was their decision. They funded the purchase (albeit the funding appears to have been mainly wages, most of which was offset from released players) of all the players he wanted, specifically to fit a 4231 formation. If the new manager wants to play a completely different shape, or actually possesses a plan B, C and D, we likely haven't got the players for it, so we are back to another player overhaul potentially.
Perhaps the man they really wanted at the helm wasn't available when they took over, but is willing to come here now? I'm hoping that this is all part of the big plan and not a knee jerk reaction at the wrong stage of the season, but I'm not convinced. For the first time in 14 years, I'm not celebrating the departure of a manager, but questioning if it was the right move and that feels very odd, I hope they know what they're doing.
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| PC sacking just creates huge ?????? of the new mgmt team on 12:48 - Dec 7 with 390 views | Herbivore |
| PC sacking just creates huge ?????? of the new mgmt team on 12:39 - Dec 7 by sotd78 |
To sack the manager who realistically had probably fifteen games with his squad fully assembled, fit, and all buying into 4231. Fifteen games? Nowhere long enough.
This strikes me that Ashton was being questioned by the Yanks. That he put in McGreal as his "back stop" and told Cook - three games mate - win them all and you can stay a bit longer!
Ashton would be terrified of having his owners arriving for the Pack Out PR games and finding us booing.
We wouldn't have.
Seems to me we have owners and management who have yet to recognise that they may have bought a club they are yet to understand. We are sleepy Suffolk - it works in our favour and against us at times.
Cook had too few games and no plan B - seems the same criticism could be levelled at the Board - No plan B! |
I do think the arbitrary trimming away of games from Cook's tenure here is rather bizarre. However you slice it he had a short tenure here but had he done enough to show he deserved longer? Not for me, just couldn't get us going and we have been regressing of late. I was struggling to see any evidence at all that he could get us on the kind of sustained run of good form that would give us a chance of making the top 6. Given that there was a lot of talk about challenging for the title at the start of the season, to be this far adrift is a big failure. We've clung on to failing managers for too long in the past, I'm glad we've not done so again. |  |
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| PC sacking just creates huge ?????? of the new mgmt team on 12:54 - Dec 7 with 379 views | Coastalblue |
A good manager, no doubt about that but for some reason it just didn't work here, happens sometimes.
We just have to hope the next one through the door does work. Not sure it's always something that can be predicted, especially at the lever we're looking, don't think it was ever going to work here for Cook though for some reason which is a real shame for both him and us. |  |
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| PC sacking just creates huge ?????? of the new mgmt team on 12:59 - Dec 7 with 362 views | stonojnr |
| PC sacking just creates huge ?????? of the new mgmt team on 09:53 - Dec 7 by StokieBlue |
The "not the Ipswich way" nonsense needs to be resigned to history. I've seen so many people saying it's not our way to not give managers time.
Keeping managers too long or being too nice about things has led us to the middle reaches of the 3rd division. Perhaps the "Ipswich way" doesn't work anymore.
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and it completely overlooks even in recent history, Hurst got 15 games (which is 2 less than I thought he did), shortest period in charge for a non caretaker manager at Ipswich.
I dont recall large numbers of people claiming he wasnt given long enough, even though his attempt a demolition job was almost identical to Cooks in trying to get rid of the dead wood,but the fans were still on the players sides back then and he was sacked because it looked like we would get relegated to L1 if it carried on.
which happened anyway, but now in L1 for the 2nd season, and already looking at a 3rd, and people wanted to give Cook more time to deliver ?
if Town had been bubbling around 6th or 7th still, Cook would still have the job, but we havent looked remotely capable of that kind of form, and Cook and probably more importantly his coaching team seemed to have no solution to it.
Town play their 21st league game tonight, thats nearly half the season gone. | | | |
| PC sacking just creates huge ?????? of the new mgmt team on 13:04 - Dec 7 with 349 views | Freddies_Ears |
| PC sacking just creates huge ?????? of the new mgmt team on 10:08 - Dec 7 by Churchman |
I agree with this EG. I suspect far more has gone on in planning for this than has been made public. I flippin hope so! |
Bringing McGreal in last Thursday didn't feel like coincidence at the time, and feels even less like coincidence with the benefit of hindsight. | | | |
| PC sacking just creates huge ?????? of the new mgmt team on 13:34 - Dec 7 with 319 views | Stu_Magoo |
Im intrigued to see what Paul Cook's backroom staff looks like when he takes his next management gig. Will he take Jeffers, Roberts and the Kit Man with him or will it be a collection of more experienced individuals? |  |
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| PC sacking just creates huge ?????? of the new mgmt team on 10:40 - Dec 16 with 242 views | TooManyCooks |
| PC sacking just creates huge ?????? of the new mgmt team on 09:50 - Dec 7 by ElderGrizzly |
And Ashton and our owners don't appear to be knee-jerk reaction types.
I suspect this is all very carefully planned and has been for a couple of weeks with replacements already sounded out.
Ashton hasn't just sacked Cook and then gone "what next?" |
Do you still believe all of this has been carefully planned?
I don't know exactly what is going on behind the scenes, but the weight of probability is now leaning strongly towards this not being a planned scenario at all. I wonder if there was a bust up between Cook and Ashton, or Ashton/Gamechanger? This reeks of a bust up. It didn't make any sense to me to sack Cook at this stage of the season and certainly not when you don't have a replacement lined up. | |
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