| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 13:50 - Dec 24 with 2241 views | BlueBadger |
Hmmmm, racist, corrupt and incompetent vs a bit dull but appears competent and committed to not actually promoting bigots and incompetents?
It's a toughie! |  |
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| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 13:51 - Dec 24 with 2231 views | Darth_Koont |
Jesus was a socialist.
And these two would be among the first in line to denounce him. 😀 |  |
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| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 13:54 - Dec 24 with 2200 views | ZXBlue |
| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 13:51 - Dec 24 by Darth_Koont |
Jesus was a socialist.
And these two would be among the first in line to denounce him. 😀 |
We don't even know if he existed tbh, let alone his political leanings. |  | | |
| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 13:55 - Dec 24 with 2203 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Politicians talking about Christmas address message to the meaning of Christmas shocker.
I am sure most other religions are tolerant of this.
EDIT: Plus many different ethnicities have higher levels of Christian belief than white British do. [Post edited 24 Dec 2021 13:56]
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| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 13:56 - Dec 24 with 2180 views | Darth_Koont |
| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 13:50 - Dec 24 by BlueBadger |
Hmmmm, racist, corrupt and incompetent vs a bit dull but appears competent and committed to not actually promoting bigots and incompetents?
It's a toughie! |
Apart from expelling Jews from Labour and tolerating islamophobia, anti-BAME, anti-traveller sentiment and transphobia.
Apart from that, accurate as ever.
It’s Hobson’s choice. | |
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| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 13:56 - Dec 24 with 2180 views | baxterbasics |
| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 13:51 - Dec 24 by Darth_Koont |
Jesus was a socialist.
And these two would be among the first in line to denounce him. 😀 |
Jesus a socialist? No. He called upon individuals to be loving, tolerant and to help those in need. He had nothing to say about enforced wealth distribution by central government. |  |
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| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 13:57 - Dec 24 with 2176 views | DanTheMan |
| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 13:51 - Dec 24 by Darth_Koont |
Jesus was a socialist.
And these two would be among the first in line to denounce him. 😀 |
Any excuse to share Supply Side Jesus
https://imgur.com/gallery/bCqRp |  |
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| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 13:57 - Dec 24 with 2175 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 13:54 - Dec 24 by ZXBlue |
We don't even know if he existed tbh, let alone his political leanings. |
Do you struggle to believe in the existence of Julius Caesar too? | |
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| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 13:58 - Dec 24 with 2180 views | baxterbasics |
Not sure the relevance of ethnic diversity here - there are a quite a few brown Christians, y'know. | |
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| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 13:59 - Dec 24 with 2158 views | Darth_Koont |
| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 13:56 - Dec 24 by baxterbasics |
Jesus a socialist? No. He called upon individuals to be loving, tolerant and to help those in need. He had nothing to say about enforced wealth distribution by central government. |
I think you’re confusing socialism with actual communism.
And we already are one of the most centralised countries in the OECD with enforced wealth distribution going the wrong way. | |
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| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 13:59 - Dec 24 with 2156 views | ZXBlue |
| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 13:57 - Dec 24 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Do you struggle to believe in the existence of Julius Caesar too? |
No. The levels of evidence are entirely different. Contrary to a myth that gets peddled! | | | |
| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 14:01 - Dec 24 with 2146 views | Darth_Koont |
No excuse needed. It’s great stuff. | |
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| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 14:05 - Dec 24 with 2119 views | ZXBlue |
"the gospel coalition"? Somewhat biased.
There is no contemporaneous evidence for jesus at all, save for the bible. | | | |
| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 14:05 - Dec 24 with 2117 views | Vic |
| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 13:59 - Dec 24 by ZXBlue |
No. The levels of evidence are entirely different. Contrary to a myth that gets peddled! |
Care to share? |  |
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| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 14:06 - Dec 24 with 2106 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 14:05 - Dec 24 by ZXBlue |
"the gospel coalition"? Somewhat biased.
There is no contemporaneous evidence for jesus at all, save for the bible. |
You didn't read the Guardian article then?
Or is that as biased?
Are you sure you are not relying on biased atheistic publishers telling you the evidence is non-existent? | |
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| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 14:07 - Dec 24 with 2098 views | fab_lover |
| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 13:51 - Dec 24 by Darth_Koont |
Jesus was a socialist.
And these two would be among the first in line to denounce him. 😀 |
Name the band from the lyrics:
"If the real Jesus Christ was to stand up today / he'd be gunned down cold by the CIA"
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"Jesus was a black man / No, Jesus was Batman" |  | | |
| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 14:08 - Dec 24 with 2087 views | ZXBlue |
| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 14:06 - Dec 24 by Nthsuffolkblue |
You didn't read the Guardian article then?
Or is that as biased?
Are you sure you are not relying on biased atheistic publishers telling you the evidence is non-existent? |
Not at all. Give me a piece of contemporaneous evidence for jesus that is not part of a religious text written by anonymous non eye witnesses. | | | |
| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 14:08 - Dec 24 with 2083 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 13:50 - Dec 24 by BlueBadger |
Hmmmm, racist, corrupt and incompetent vs a bit dull but appears competent and committed to not actually promoting bigots and incompetents?
It's a toughie! |
It is admittedly a very low bar....hoorah for Kier!! |  |
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| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 14:09 - Dec 24 with 2070 views | Darth_Koont |
| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 14:07 - Dec 24 by fab_lover |
Name the band from the lyrics:
"If the real Jesus Christ was to stand up today / he'd be gunned down cold by the CIA"
and
"Jesus was a black man / No, Jesus was Batman" |
The The for the first.
The second sounds familiar but I’ll need a think. | |
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| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 14:11 - Dec 24 with 2029 views | ZXBlue |
Not contemporaneous.
Even if it were (which it isnt): 1 passage widely accepted to be interpolated. The other vague as hell. | | | |
| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 14:12 - Dec 24 with 2015 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 14:08 - Dec 24 by ZXBlue |
Not at all. Give me a piece of contemporaneous evidence for jesus that is not part of a religious text written by anonymous non eye witnesses. |
"that is not part of a religious text written by anonymous non eye witnesses." also includes all of the gospels - Luke was written by a doctor called Luke (who while not an eyewitness carefully investigated those who were and presented his findings); Matthew, Mark and John were all eyewitnesses.
Of course, if you have already decided that Jesus didn't exist (despite the evidence to the contrary), you will then decide that these were not written by the authors that are clearly stated and widely accepted. | |
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| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 14:14 - Dec 24 with 2007 views | Vic |
| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 14:05 - Dec 24 by ZXBlue |
"the gospel coalition"? Somewhat biased.
There is no contemporaneous evidence for jesus at all, save for the bible. |
Tell me a publication that isn’t biased! Have you truthfully examined both sides of the debate in order to come to your conclusion? Personally I’m constantly amazed at the number of people who have never read a pro Christian book and yet have determined the Christian faith is a load or rubbish! | |
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| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 14:18 - Dec 24 with 1995 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Johnson doing it for the Christians.... on 14:11 - Dec 24 by ZXBlue |
Not contemporaneous.
Even if it were (which it isnt): 1 passage widely accepted to be interpolated. The other vague as hell. |
So you can't trust anything that anyone currently living says about things that happened just before they were born - even if they are the most highly qualified historian?
Please present the same level of evidence for Julius Caesar from his contemporaries.
There are very few people who genuinely believe that Jesus never existed.
To quote from the article on Josephus that you have not read: "These passages, along with other non-biblical, non-Christian references to Jesus in secular first-century sources–among them Tacitus (Annals 15:44), Suetonius (Claudius 25), and Pliny the Younger (Letter to Trajan)–prove conclusively that any denial of Jesus’ historicity is maundering sensationalism by the uninformed and/or the dishonest." [Post edited 24 Dec 2021 14:20]
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