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In deepest Essex, True Patriots' heads are exploding.... on 13:43 - Jan 4 with 916 viewsTJS

I never see the point of these stories.
In 43 generations you are probably descended from everyone in the known world at that time (it's fairly basic maths)
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In deepest Essex, True Patriots' heads are exploding.... on 13:50 - Jan 4 with 892 viewsleitrimblue

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In deepest Essex, True Patriots' heads are exploding.... on 13:43 - Jan 4 by TJS

I never see the point of these stories.
In 43 generations you are probably descended from everyone in the known world at that time (it's fairly basic maths)
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Though i imagine it's unlikely that you or me are personally related to Mohammed.
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In deepest Essex, True Patriots' heads are exploding.... on 14:04 - Jan 4 with 844 viewsfooters

I'm not entirely sure having foreign rulers was indicative of our inherently welcoming nature...

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In deepest Essex, True Patriots' heads are exploding.... on 14:06 - Jan 4 with 825 viewsBlueBadger

In deepest Essex, True Patriots' heads are exploding.... on 14:04 - Jan 4 by footers

I'm not entirely sure having foreign rulers was indicative of our inherently welcoming nature...


Come on now, if they're WEALTHY and deeply unpleasant as opposed to poor and and fleeing from unpleasant people we've welcomed them with open arms for centuries.

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In deepest Essex, True Patriots' heads are exploding.... on 13:52 - Jan 4 by leitrimblue

Though i imagine it's unlikely that you or me are personally related to Mohammed.


Speak for yourself, infidel.

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In deepest Essex, True Patriots' heads are exploding.... on 14:40 - Jan 4 with 741 viewsfactual_blue

In deepest Essex, True Patriots' heads are exploding.... on 13:43 - Jan 4 by TJS

I never see the point of these stories.
In 43 generations you are probably descended from everyone in the known world at that time (it's fairly basic maths)
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...a level of maths beyond most True Patriots....

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In deepest Essex, True Patriots' heads are exploding.... on 14:48 - Jan 4 with 721 viewsGeoffSentence

In deepest Essex, True Patriots' heads are exploding.... on 13:43 - Jan 4 by TJS

I never see the point of these stories.
In 43 generations you are probably descended from everyone in the known world at that time (it's fairly basic maths)
[Post edited 4 Jan 13:44]


Yep, you only need to go back to the 11th century. All living Europeans are related to all Europeans who were alive then.

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In deepest Essex, True Patriots' heads are exploding.... on 14:50 - Jan 4 with 710 viewsGeoffSentence

In deepest Essex, True Patriots' heads are exploding.... on 13:52 - Jan 4 by leitrimblue

Though i imagine it's unlikely that you or me are personally related to Mohammed.


We almost certainly are. Particularly if his line made it to Europe by the 11th century.

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In deepest Essex, True Patriots' heads are exploding.... on 14:54 - Jan 4 with 687 viewsleitrimblue

In deepest Essex, True Patriots' heads are exploding.... on 14:50 - Jan 4 by GeoffSentence

We almost certainly are. Particularly if his line made it to Europe by the 11th century.


Problem is Geoff, in the 11thC, the ancestors of the likes of me an you were probably Suffolk mud farmers. Very unlikely to be mixing with royalty from the Southern Mediterranean or anywhere else. But as you say we are all pretty related so it is possible
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In deepest Essex, True Patriots' heads are exploding.... on 15:05 - Jan 4 with 657 viewsNthsuffolkblue

In deepest Essex, True Patriots' heads are exploding.... on 13:52 - Jan 4 by leitrimblue

Though i imagine it's unlikely that you or me are personally related to Mohammed.


It really depends on how inbred you are. You have 4 biological grandparents each of them has 4 biological grandparents. This means in 4 generations you have potentially 16 ancestors in that specific generation. This number is 2^4. If you go back 43 generations the number becomes 2^43 which is 8,796,090,000,000 people. Now, there is likely a lot of overlap reducing these figures massively (there were not that many people alive on the planet that long ago anyway so there would have to be). However, it doesn't take a huge amount of movement of populations and breeding outside of the direct family for one to be descended from a very large number of people from considerable number of generations ago.

You can, however, be quite sure that you are not directly descended from someone who is known to definitely not had any children who have survived to adulthood.

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In deepest Essex, True Patriots' heads are exploding.... on 15:07 - Jan 4 with 653 viewsNthsuffolkblue

In deepest Essex, True Patriots' heads are exploding.... on 14:54 - Jan 4 by leitrimblue

Problem is Geoff, in the 11thC, the ancestors of the likes of me an you were probably Suffolk mud farmers. Very unlikely to be mixing with royalty from the Southern Mediterranean or anywhere else. But as you say we are all pretty related so it is possible


The likelihood is that those Suffolk mud farmers were descended from a variety of people groups and that since then there have been other influences within the family line. My family is all from Ipswich but you only have to go back 3 generations to find that they are actually from London, Bristol, Liverpool and many other places. Already by that far back there are lines with German blood in them too.

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In deepest Essex, True Patriots' heads are exploding.... on 15:40 - Jan 4 with 593 viewsKropotkin123

In deepest Essex, True Patriots' heads are exploding.... on 14:04 - Jan 4 by footers

I'm not entirely sure having foreign rulers was indicative of our inherently welcoming nature...


Yeah, forced capture and religious conversion becomes welcoming nature...

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In deepest Essex, True Patriots' heads are exploding.... on 15:07 - Jan 4 by Nthsuffolkblue

The likelihood is that those Suffolk mud farmers were descended from a variety of people groups and that since then there have been other influences within the family line. My family is all from Ipswich but you only have to go back 3 generations to find that they are actually from London, Bristol, Liverpool and many other places. Already by that far back there are lines with German blood in them too.


i only have to go back 2 generations , if potatoes, oats or rice crops failure they had to move on

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In deepest Essex, True Patriots' heads are exploding.... on 16:04 - Jan 4 with 537 viewsleitrimblue

In deepest Essex, True Patriots' heads are exploding.... on 15:05 - Jan 4 by Nthsuffolkblue

It really depends on how inbred you are. You have 4 biological grandparents each of them has 4 biological grandparents. This means in 4 generations you have potentially 16 ancestors in that specific generation. This number is 2^4. If you go back 43 generations the number becomes 2^43 which is 8,796,090,000,000 people. Now, there is likely a lot of overlap reducing these figures massively (there were not that many people alive on the planet that long ago anyway so there would have to be). However, it doesn't take a huge amount of movement of populations and breeding outside of the direct family for one to be descended from a very large number of people from considerable number of generations ago.

You can, however, be quite sure that you are not directly descended from someone who is known to definitely not had any children who have survived to adulthood.


Pretty feck1n inbred... I think over the last 1000 years or so geographical movement would have been more common then shall we call it class movement. If you think of it this way, a large proportion of the ruling class of Europe claim to trace there ancestry back to the Merovingian elite. There is very little movement in or out of this group. So though it is quite possible that you are descended from Mohammed any genetic links you have would be more likely to be related to the enormous movement of people during prehistory then from post 11thC. This is what genetically separates you an me from the elite groups like the 'English' royalty
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