| Funny how all the talk of Mark Ashton's influence 16:11 - Jan 10 with 4541 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
has gone quiet. Even the Bristol City fan who keeps popping up has disappeared, unless I've missed him. Not to mention the scrutiny of the coaching staff. Almost as if when you're winning this 'analysis' gets forgotten.
Not having a pop at anyone, it's great that none of this is being discussed. Long may it continue (because that means we're still doing well). |  |
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| Funny how all the talk of Mark Ashton's influence on 08:51 - Jan 11 with 1022 views | CrockerITFC |
| Funny how all the talk of Mark Ashton's influence on 16:54 - Jan 10 by clive_baker |
Weird psychology of the football fan, when an 'outsider' has a view it's treated as gospel by some. For all we know it could be their Chris Makin. |
Chris Makin is a pioneer, you wouldn't understand as he's ahead of the time
Viva Chris Makin |  | | |
| Funny how all the talk of Mark Ashton's influence on 08:52 - Jan 11 with 1019 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Funny how all the talk of Mark Ashton's influence on 21:11 - Jan 10 by Wakh |
He might be amicable, but if I camped out in my ex wives garage and jumped out occasionally to tell her family that she was a bitch, I would probably know that It would be best to move on. [Post edited 10 Jan 2022 21:13]
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It’s a football forum, not a harassment case. There’s an ignore button if you don’t want to listen to the views of people who have some experience of our CEO running their club |  |
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| Funny how all the talk of Mark Ashton's influence on 18:31 - Jan 11 with 900 views | Wakh |
| Funny how all the talk of Mark Ashton's influence on 08:52 - Jan 11 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
It’s a football forum, not a harassment case. There’s an ignore button if you don’t want to listen to the views of people who have some experience of our CEO running their club |
Must be just me that finds it all a bit weird then. The constant pop ups. The guy reminds me of that weird neighbour in one foot in the grave.
Anyway, I will judge the guy on what Ashton does here. Not what he might have done somewhere else for a club that was never going to achieve anything anyway. |  | | |
| Funny how all the talk of Mark Ashton's influence on 19:05 - Jan 11 with 876 views | chrismakin |
| Funny how all the talk of Mark Ashton's influence on 18:31 - Jan 11 by Wakh |
Must be just me that finds it all a bit weird then. The constant pop ups. The guy reminds me of that weird neighbour in one foot in the grave.
Anyway, I will judge the guy on what Ashton does here. Not what he might have done somewhere else for a club that was never going to achieve anything anyway. |
What's weird is when posters are spoken of. Said poster then replies, then said poster is moaned at for responding. |  |
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| Funny how all the talk of Mark Ashton's influence on 19:25 - Jan 11 with 852 views | Churchman |
| Funny how all the talk of Mark Ashton's influence on 18:31 - Jan 11 by Wakh |
Must be just me that finds it all a bit weird then. The constant pop ups. The guy reminds me of that weird neighbour in one foot in the grave.
Anyway, I will judge the guy on what Ashton does here. Not what he might have done somewhere else for a club that was never going to achieve anything anyway. |
It’s not just you that finds it weird and I too try to judge people on what they do at this club now. Ok, I don’t particularly like his action man beard, ferrety eyes, Brentspeak and flat cap, but other than perhaps kicking out Cook sooner, I’ve seen no evidence to suggest he’s done too much wrong here yet.
As a point of interested, how many people on here go on to other clubs forums and leave the same stuff over and over again month after month to ‘warn them’? About zero, I’d guess. It’s plain odd. This bloke must trawl this forum daily to spot Ashton’s name.
To give him his dues, he’s certainly been effective in that some people have picked up his and his fellow obsessives hatred’s and run with them. |  | | |
| Funny how all the talk of Mark Ashton's influence on 19:47 - Jan 11 with 826 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Funny how all the talk of Mark Ashton's influence on 19:25 - Jan 11 by Churchman |
It’s not just you that finds it weird and I too try to judge people on what they do at this club now. Ok, I don’t particularly like his action man beard, ferrety eyes, Brentspeak and flat cap, but other than perhaps kicking out Cook sooner, I’ve seen no evidence to suggest he’s done too much wrong here yet.
As a point of interested, how many people on here go on to other clubs forums and leave the same stuff over and over again month after month to ‘warn them’? About zero, I’d guess. It’s plain odd. This bloke must trawl this forum daily to spot Ashton’s name.
To give him his dues, he’s certainly been effective in that some people have picked up his and his fellow obsessives hatred’s and run with them. |
It's almost like there is more that unites fans of football, regardless of the team supported, in regards to finance and day to day running of the game than divides them. I have no doubt that Ashton will do very well at spending other people's money. If it wasn't Derby I'm sure someone might have had a word about Evans..my thoughts are now with fans of The Terriers, a team I watched a great deal in the early80's. |  |
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| Funny how all the talk of Mark Ashton's influence on 20:02 - Jan 11 with 806 views | FevsBCFC |
| Funny how all the talk of Mark Ashton's influence on 19:25 - Jan 11 by Churchman |
It’s not just you that finds it weird and I too try to judge people on what they do at this club now. Ok, I don’t particularly like his action man beard, ferrety eyes, Brentspeak and flat cap, but other than perhaps kicking out Cook sooner, I’ve seen no evidence to suggest he’s done too much wrong here yet.
As a point of interested, how many people on here go on to other clubs forums and leave the same stuff over and over again month after month to ‘warn them’? About zero, I’d guess. It’s plain odd. This bloke must trawl this forum daily to spot Ashton’s name.
To give him his dues, he’s certainly been effective in that some people have picked up his and his fellow obsessives hatred’s and run with them. |
Other than my first post, when someone asked a city fan to post, what “warnings” have I given? You’re generally twisting the narrative of my posts.
One of my best mates is an Ipswich fan, I grew up in an era where Ipswich were successful, and did things the right way, hence as a neutral they’re a club a lot of fans of other clubs like. My first FA Cup final was Roger Osborne.
A lot of your fellow posters see it as just being part of the discussion.
I don’t comment on your matches, results, performances because I don’t watch you, but I also comment on certain players, a) because some of them have played for City or b) have been on our radar, etc, etc. As a bloke who does a lot of player analysis, I’m interested in how players like Bonne, Chaplin and Fraser do, because they were players that I thought might be potential Championship players for us.
So, lots of interest in your forum, but I don’t post on everything.
Out of interest, what’s the news on Lee O’Neill, he’s been removed as a Director from the club. Is that just part of the transition under the new owners, or is he moving on? Ignore, just seen there’s a separate thread started. [Post edited 11 Jan 2022 20:03]
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| Funny how all the talk of Mark Ashton's influence on 20:07 - Jan 11 with 787 views | BiGDonnie |
| Funny how all the talk of Mark Ashton's influence on 20:02 - Jan 11 by FevsBCFC |
Other than my first post, when someone asked a city fan to post, what “warnings” have I given? You’re generally twisting the narrative of my posts.
One of my best mates is an Ipswich fan, I grew up in an era where Ipswich were successful, and did things the right way, hence as a neutral they’re a club a lot of fans of other clubs like. My first FA Cup final was Roger Osborne.
A lot of your fellow posters see it as just being part of the discussion.
I don’t comment on your matches, results, performances because I don’t watch you, but I also comment on certain players, a) because some of them have played for City or b) have been on our radar, etc, etc. As a bloke who does a lot of player analysis, I’m interested in how players like Bonne, Chaplin and Fraser do, because they were players that I thought might be potential Championship players for us.
So, lots of interest in your forum, but I don’t post on everything.
Out of interest, what’s the news on Lee O’Neill, he’s been removed as a Director from the club. Is that just part of the transition under the new owners, or is he moving on? Ignore, just seen there’s a separate thread started. [Post edited 11 Jan 2022 20:03]
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You crack on posting brother! You'll have a couple of Ipswich vs Bristol fixtures to comment on next season. |  |
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| Funny how all the talk of Mark Ashton's influence on 20:08 - Jan 11 with 785 views | FevsBCFC |
| Funny how all the talk of Mark Ashton's influence on 20:07 - Jan 11 by BiGDonnie |
You crack on posting brother! You'll have a couple of Ipswich vs Bristol fixtures to comment on next season. |
In which league? 🤣 | | | |
| Funny how all the talk of Mark Ashton's influence on 10:49 - Jan 12 with 686 views | Bluroo |
I sense a high degree of entitlement in Bristol City fans criticism of Ashton. Clearly someone doesn't want to accept all the realities of the strategy required to keep them in the 2nd tier of English football, rather than the 3rd tier where they've spent the majority of their existence. Everyone makes mistakes but in my view the Ashton reign was undeniably a net benefit to them.
I also think the role MA has at Portman Road is conceptually different. There is a different relationship between the CEO and owners, different autonomy, resources and aspirations.
I'm personally extremely happy with the Gamechanger-Ashton-KcKenna axis of power we have now. I think we have brilliant owners, directors and coaches....Compared to where we were before. Lets not forget that. | | | |
| Funny how all the talk of Mark Ashton's influence on 11:22 - Jan 12 with 656 views | Seablu |
| Funny how all the talk of Mark Ashton's influence on 20:07 - Jan 11 by BiGDonnie |
You crack on posting brother! You'll have a couple of Ipswich vs Bristol fixtures to comment on next season. |
I don’t see Rovers getting back up under Barton though. |  | | |
| Funny how all the talk of Mark Ashton's influence on 11:37 - Jan 12 with 622 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Funny how all the talk of Mark Ashton's influence on 10:49 - Jan 12 by Bluroo |
I sense a high degree of entitlement in Bristol City fans criticism of Ashton. Clearly someone doesn't want to accept all the realities of the strategy required to keep them in the 2nd tier of English football, rather than the 3rd tier where they've spent the majority of their existence. Everyone makes mistakes but in my view the Ashton reign was undeniably a net benefit to them.
I also think the role MA has at Portman Road is conceptually different. There is a different relationship between the CEO and owners, different autonomy, resources and aspirations.
I'm personally extremely happy with the Gamechanger-Ashton-KcKenna axis of power we have now. I think we have brilliant owners, directors and coaches....Compared to where we were before. Lets not forget that. |
Oh yeah, we're starting from a low base so almost anything will look better and if Ashton's only remotely competent he'll do better. I feel like the characters from the Wacky Races could do a better job of running a football club than what we had before. Evans had the money as well (for the first few years at least) which makes his failure look even worse. Imagine if he didn't have the millions, just his expertise!
Take your first point as well - I think even the Bristol City chap would agree our ceiling is probably higher than there. | |
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| Funny how all the talk of Mark Ashton's influence on 15:44 - Jan 12 with 532 views | Bluroo |
| Funny how all the talk of Mark Ashton's influence on 11:37 - Jan 12 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Oh yeah, we're starting from a low base so almost anything will look better and if Ashton's only remotely competent he'll do better. I feel like the characters from the Wacky Races could do a better job of running a football club than what we had before. Evans had the money as well (for the first few years at least) which makes his failure look even worse. Imagine if he didn't have the millions, just his expertise!
Take your first point as well - I think even the Bristol City chap would agree our ceiling is probably higher than there. |
Yup, word.
Fundamentally Bristol City were taken somewhere they'd not really been before - whereas were trying to get back to where we've been. Different strokes. | | | |
| Funny how all the talk of Mark Ashton's influence on 16:31 - Jan 12 with 499 views | solemio |
| Funny how all the talk of Mark Ashton's influence on 11:22 - Jan 12 by Seablu |
I don’t see Rovers getting back up under Barton though. |
Barton Rovers is one of the best clubs in Bedfordshire - although not quite as good as Luton Town. | | | |
| Funny how all the talk of Mark Ashton's influence on 16:43 - Jan 12 with 488 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Funny how all the talk of Mark Ashton's influence on 15:44 - Jan 12 by Bluroo |
Yup, word.
Fundamentally Bristol City were taken somewhere they'd not really been before - whereas were trying to get back to where we've been. Different strokes. |
That’s not really true, I agree with the premise that we’re historically a bigger club than Bristol City but they have actually spent the majority of their existence in the top 2 divisions, and not the third as you suggested in your other post. And that isn’t skewed by say the pre-war era, the same applies if looking at the past 50 years, or even 30 | |
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| Funny how all the talk of Mark Ashton's influence on 20:26 - Jan 12 with 417 views | FevsBCFC |
| Funny how all the talk of Mark Ashton's influence on 10:49 - Jan 12 by Bluroo |
I sense a high degree of entitlement in Bristol City fans criticism of Ashton. Clearly someone doesn't want to accept all the realities of the strategy required to keep them in the 2nd tier of English football, rather than the 3rd tier where they've spent the majority of their existence. Everyone makes mistakes but in my view the Ashton reign was undeniably a net benefit to them.
I also think the role MA has at Portman Road is conceptually different. There is a different relationship between the CEO and owners, different autonomy, resources and aspirations.
I'm personally extremely happy with the Gamechanger-Ashton-KcKenna axis of power we have now. I think we have brilliant owners, directors and coaches....Compared to where we were before. Lets not forget that. |
No entitlement whatsoever. We’ve been a team that bounce around between 2nd and 3rd tiers for most of our time. Think there was a story that mapped the average league position of all clubs and then ranked them. We were 41st, so if you take off the 20 PL teams, our average rank was 21st in the Championship. Not much of a basis for delusions of grandeur is it?
I’m pleased your happy with your set up. I’m sure it will change / evolve over time too. | | | |
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