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Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? 11:48 - Jan 20 with 4324 viewsMaySixth

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Ashton's agent mates are quids in

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Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:31 - Jan 20 with 1187 viewschrismakin

Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:28 - Jan 20 by StokieBlue

He was employed as a manager as was made clear by the journalists at the time.

He's never been referred to as a head coach.

https://www.itfc.co.uk/news/2021/december/mark-ashton-on-kieran-mckenna/

"Mark Ashton is 'as confident as he can be' that Kieran McKenna will be the manager to bring success to Town."

He may well say to Ashton "get me this type of player" or he might have known exactly who he wanted. You just state things as if you've got inside knowledge which clearly you don't.

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Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:32 - Jan 20 with 1174 viewsTractorCam

Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:24 - Jan 20 by chrismakin

It's actually a lot more obvious tbh and interesting so many of you are struggling with the concept.

Km says he'd like to improve midfield.
Ashton along with recruitment team ( whilst not fully set up yet still has people involved in it), they identify the midfielder. Job done.

KM is a headcoach not a manager.



Imo.


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So KM wants a midfielder, Ashton has identified one and KM has approved.

OP made it sound like some evil dictator.

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Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:37 - Jan 20 with 1136 viewschrismakin

Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:32 - Jan 20 by TractorCam

So KM wants a midfielder, Ashton has identified one and KM has approved.

OP made it sound like some evil dictator.


Has he though? he's not exactly wrong with the OP though.

Is it a weird signing? It is when you think about positions needing better players, it's not one area that many have sounded out.

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Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:39 - Jan 20 with 1128 viewscatch74

Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:32 - Jan 20 by TractorCam

So KM wants a midfielder, Ashton has identified one and KM has approved.

OP made it sound like some evil dictator.


I think a very simple answer is that he’s played regularly in the Championship this season, El Miz has had a few appearances here and there and nothing lately. He needs to be playing regularly so likely he’ll get a loan to Div 2.

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Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:39 - Jan 20 with 1115 viewsTractorCam

Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:37 - Jan 20 by chrismakin

Has he though? he's not exactly wrong with the OP though.

Is it a weird signing? It is when you think about positions needing better players, it's not one area that many have sounded out.


You literally just said KM wants to improve midfield.

Ashton isn't forcing this guy on us.

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Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:40 - Jan 20 with 1115 viewsMaySixth

Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 11:57 - Jan 20 by StokieBlue

Weren't you leaving here?

I think it lasted about 20 hours.

Instead you're back with more rubbish like this.

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Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:40 - Jan 20 with 1110 viewschrismakin

Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:39 - Jan 20 by TractorCam

You literally just said KM wants to improve midfield.

Ashton isn't forcing this guy on us.


I don't think the OP says he has either

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Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:41 - Jan 20 with 1103 viewsMaySixth

Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:25 - Jan 20 by chicoazul

Does seem a weird signing to me. We have 4 or 5 players for that role.


Very weird signing on the surface.

Nobody has explained why we would sign him on loan when we have El Mizouni.

Forget any Ashton/Bristiol City connections, simply on football performance alone.

Just find it odd.

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Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:41 - Jan 20 with 1099 viewsDubtractor

Genuine question here - is El Miz actually good enough?

I've not seen much of him, but he was part of that utterly abject performance at Barrow, and aged 21 he's not really staked a claim for a place in the team. He had a promising first Cambridge loan cut short by injury, and made little impression in a second loan.

This isn't me digging him out, I've honestly not seen enough to have a strong view, but I'd be interested to know the views of people who have seen him more.

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Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:43 - Jan 20 with 1095 viewsMaySixth

Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:39 - Jan 20 by catch74

I think a very simple answer is that he’s played regularly in the Championship this season, El Miz has had a few appearances here and there and nothing lately. He needs to be playing regularly so likely he’ll get a loan to Div 2.


Thanks.

Didn't appear to me to have played rgularly but certainly more than El Miz.

Wonder what this means for Tom Carroll?

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Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:43 - Jan 20 with 1087 viewsTractorCam

Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:41 - Jan 20 by MaySixth

Very weird signing on the surface.

Nobody has explained why we would sign him on loan when we have El Mizouni.

Forget any Ashton/Bristiol City connections, simply on football performance alone.

Just find it odd.


How much have you seen of Bakinson to give a fair comparison? Or even El Miz for that matter?

El Mizouni is 21 and has only played 5 games for us across our whole League One tenure.

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Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:45 - Jan 20 with 1081 viewschicoazul

Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:41 - Jan 20 by Dubtractor

Genuine question here - is El Miz actually good enough?

I've not seen much of him, but he was part of that utterly abject performance at Barrow, and aged 21 he's not really staked a claim for a place in the team. He had a promising first Cambridge loan cut short by injury, and made little impression in a second loan.

This isn't me digging him out, I've honestly not seen enough to have a strong view, but I'd be interested to know the views of people who have seen him more.


Think Joe rates him.
For me it’s more about we have rakheem Harper so why sign this new guy.

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Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:50 - Jan 20 with 1059 viewsDubtractor

Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:45 - Jan 20 by chicoazul

Think Joe rates him.
For me it’s more about we have rakheem Harper so why sign this new guy.


Yeah, I'm not sure where Harper stands at the moment, but I certainly don't think we are overstocked in midfield, certainly not with players who are good enough anyway.

Though re Harper, this new chap sounds like a defensive minded player, and Harper definitely isn't that!
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Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:50 - Jan 20 with 1061 viewsJ2BLUE

Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:40 - Jan 20 by MaySixth

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Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:51 - Jan 20 with 1055 viewsBarcaBlue

Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:37 - Jan 20 by chrismakin

Has he though? he's not exactly wrong with the OP though.

Is it a weird signing? It is when you think about positions needing better players, it's not one area that many have sounded out.


You're all over the place here. You said the head coach wanted to bolster the midfield and then suggest it's a weird signing whilst also being down to Ashton. The OP was on a daft one about Ashton's agent mates or something equally as daft.
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Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:54 - Jan 20 with 1042 viewschicoazul

Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:50 - Jan 20 by Dubtractor

Yeah, I'm not sure where Harper stands at the moment, but I certainly don't think we are overstocked in midfield, certainly not with players who are good enough anyway.

Though re Harper, this new chap sounds like a defensive minded player, and Harper definitely isn't that!
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Haha that’s fair. I’d like to see Harper get a go with Morsy along side him as I think that would be a powerful midfield, but Evans seems to finally be playing consistently well now.
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Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:58 - Jan 20 with 1022 viewschrismakin

Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:51 - Jan 20 by BarcaBlue

You're all over the place here. You said the head coach wanted to bolster the midfield and then suggest it's a weird signing whilst also being down to Ashton. The OP was on a daft one about Ashton's agent mates or something equally as daft.


it's weird for us as fans yes as it's not been a position that's been seen as something that needs addressing. So that's why I blieve the OP said it was weird. Im not the OP. ask him.

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Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 15:54 - Jan 20 with 922 viewsMaySixth

At least Nigel Pearson rates him

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Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 16:41 - Jan 20 with 864 viewsstrikalite

Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:31 - Jan 20 by chrismakin

Yes I'm sure completely coincidental the first new signing under KM is a Bristol City player who ashton took to Bristol City but KM specifically pointed out that player from the thousands out there. You could be right of course. It's all opinions.


You do have a valid point here..

A huge coincidence..

I want that BC fan on here now to tell us how brilliant he is though.
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Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 17:07 - Jan 20 with 834 viewsKentish_Tractor

Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:41 - Jan 20 by MaySixth

Very weird signing on the surface.

Nobody has explained why we would sign him on loan when we have El Mizouni.

Forget any Ashton/Bristiol City connections, simply on football performance alone.

Just find it odd.


Quite possibly if he wants a big player to sure us up against the more physical teams. This guy is 6' 3 and looks quite solid. El Miz isn't short at 6' 1, but is quite wirey - I imagine this guy provides a more physical presence when we're closing out a game.

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Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 17:43 - Jan 20 with 802 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 16:41 - Jan 20 by strikalite

You do have a valid point here..

A huge coincidence..

I want that BC fan on here now to tell us how brilliant he is though.


Think he has already stated that Barkinson is not a defensive midfielder....doesn't track back. More a deeper midfielder or something.
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Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 17:46 - Jan 20 with 798 viewsjeera

Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:40 - Jan 20 by MaySixth

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This 'rent free' thing.

Isn't that the sort of stuff 12 year old children say?

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Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 17:47 - Jan 20 with 794 viewsjeera

Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:31 - Jan 20 by chrismakin

Yes I'm sure completely coincidental the first new signing under KM is a Bristol City player who ashton took to Bristol City but KM specifically pointed out that player from the thousands out there. You could be right of course. It's all opinions.


You're confusing opinions with speculation.

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Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 17:50 - Jan 20 with 785 viewswkj

Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 17:47 - Jan 20 by jeera

You're confusing opinions with speculation.



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Why sign Bakinson when we have El Mizouni? on 12:41 - Jan 20 by MaySixth

Very weird signing on the surface.

Nobody has explained why we would sign him on loan when we have El Mizouni.

Forget any Ashton/Bristiol City connections, simply on football performance alone.

Just find it odd.


Perhaps we want to send him on loan somewhere he will play every week and develop more quickly. He's not set the world alight consistently when he has played has he.
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