| Interesting stuff in the KOA interview 12:23 - Feb 17 with 4042 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
about how run down the training ground and pitches are, and them 'just not working'.
Explanation for our awful injury record and for our general poor performance over the last 10 years?
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| Interesting stuff in the KOA interview on 08:24 - Feb 18 with 655 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Interesting stuff in the KOA interview on 18:27 - Feb 17 by _sanctimoanious_ |
He didn’t ‘save us’ he bought us. If he didn’t buy us there was a queue of other suiters willing to. In that queue were Gold and Sullivan who although not everyone’s cup of tea are a damn site more successful at running football clubs. Evans is a shark and why we accept this ‘saved us’ narrative is beyond me. |
Is there any evidence of this queue of saviours? I don't remember it at the time. I don't remember Gold and Sullivan being in the running either. |  |
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| Interesting stuff in the KOA interview on 09:17 - Feb 18 with 603 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Interesting stuff in the KOA interview on 08:24 - Feb 18 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Is there any evidence of this queue of saviours? I don't remember it at the time. I don't remember Gold and Sullivan being in the running either. |
For what feels like the umpteenth time, if Evans hadn't popped his head over the parapet someone else would have. More clubs were sold between 2007 and 2009 than at any other time, the vast majority to foreign ownership.
This notion that we were sunk if Evans didn't show up if fanciful. We were an attractive proposition to anyone looking to buy a club. Good stadium, Excellent training facilities, Excellent supporter base and going well, despite the budgetary shortcomings, if we had gone into admin, we'd have been an even more attractive proposition.
This narrative that we need to 'thank' Evans is utter bullsh^t.
We are in League One,
We have recorded some of our lowest league positions ever,
We allowed an inexperienced manager to sell most of our Championship squad and replace them with league one and two players,
Portman Road is as run down as I have ever seen it,
We have an appalling injury record,
The pitches both at Portman Road, and at the training ground are substandard,
We had a tree growing on the stadium roof.
All down to Evans. The single cause of our demise. | |
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| Interesting stuff in the KOA interview on 09:27 - Feb 18 with 584 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Interesting stuff in the KOA interview on 09:17 - Feb 18 by Cheltenham_Blue |
For what feels like the umpteenth time, if Evans hadn't popped his head over the parapet someone else would have. More clubs were sold between 2007 and 2009 than at any other time, the vast majority to foreign ownership.
This notion that we were sunk if Evans didn't show up if fanciful. We were an attractive proposition to anyone looking to buy a club. Good stadium, Excellent training facilities, Excellent supporter base and going well, despite the budgetary shortcomings, if we had gone into admin, we'd have been an even more attractive proposition.
This narrative that we need to 'thank' Evans is utter bullsh^t.
We are in League One,
We have recorded some of our lowest league positions ever,
We allowed an inexperienced manager to sell most of our Championship squad and replace them with league one and two players,
Portman Road is as run down as I have ever seen it,
We have an appalling injury record,
The pitches both at Portman Road, and at the training ground are substandard,
We had a tree growing on the stadium roof.
All down to Evans. The single cause of our demise. |
Who rattled your cage?! I only asked because sanctimonious specifically said there was a queue of suiters and named Gold and Sullivan.
I've never doubted that we'd be an attractive proposition with our fan base and history, I just don't remember this queue at the time (and I'm talking specifics, not your vague "someone would've come along"). | |
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| Interesting stuff in the KOA interview on 09:42 - Feb 18 with 567 views | Vic |
| Interesting stuff in the KOA interview on 08:24 - Feb 18 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Is there any evidence of this queue of saviours? I don't remember it at the time. I don't remember Gold and Sullivan being in the running either. |
Gold and Sullivan were mentioned a lot at the time. No idea how serious they were - or even if they were interested. But they were defo mentioned.
Given that so far no chamiopnship club has gone to the wall I strongly suspect we wouldn’t either. I like Sheepy and Burley, they gave us some wonderful times - but they have to hold some responsibility for the mess we got into on their watch. |  |
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| Interesting stuff in the KOA interview on 09:49 - Feb 18 with 558 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Interesting stuff in the KOA interview on 09:42 - Feb 18 by Vic |
Gold and Sullivan were mentioned a lot at the time. No idea how serious they were - or even if they were interested. But they were defo mentioned.
Given that so far no chamiopnship club has gone to the wall I strongly suspect we wouldn’t either. I like Sheepy and Burley, they gave us some wonderful times - but they have to hold some responsibility for the mess we got into on their watch. |
I'd say Sheepy more than Burley, but yes generally I agree.
I'm not sure Gold and Sullivan being mentioned is enough, what with social media being rife. I'd want something more concrete than that. People talk of a queue but are usually vague on the specifics, and despite his faults, Sheepy isn't stupid. If there were other serious offers he'd have listened to them surely? | |
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| Interesting stuff in the KOA interview on 10:05 - Feb 18 with 539 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| Interesting stuff in the KOA interview on 09:42 - Feb 18 by Vic |
Gold and Sullivan were mentioned a lot at the time. No idea how serious they were - or even if they were interested. But they were defo mentioned.
Given that so far no chamiopnship club has gone to the wall I strongly suspect we wouldn’t either. I like Sheepy and Burley, they gave us some wonderful times - but they have to hold some responsibility for the mess we got into on their watch. |
Someone would have come along eventually I'm sure but who that would have been is an unknown quantity.
As I said Gold and Sullivan didn't turn up until Evans was preferd bidder and in a period of exclusively that would have could have lead to much legal wrangling and expense to the club had it been broken.
We do not know how long we may have sat in admin for.
Evans was the only person stumping up the cash to buy at the time. Had he not I'm sure eventually someone would but that's v much if, buts and maybes. I know the chap that ran Bolton to near bankruptcy was at one point mooted as a possible buyer but don't belive he ultimately shored up that interest.
Evans wasn't tbe asset striper some make out but it did make shockingly bad decisions throughout his tenure and clearly lost interest through the 2nd half.
Sheepy and Burley do bear some responsibility, instead of trying to compete in Europe we should have just enjoyed the ride. Evans bears a lot of responsibility but that's for making bad appointments as much as anything (only 1 manager of his tenure can be even remotely considered to have been successful)
But he did the right thing when he left, wrote off an awful lot of money and I think he tried, at least at 1st to push the club on. His failure to have anyone with a football background at a boardroom level is perhaps his most negligent decision.
Was a good owner? Not really, but nor was he the devil some would paint him as.
Certainly we have seen far worse owners try to ruin clubs over the course of Evans time here.
So a below average owner, who wanted to be a good owner but failed I think is fair.
Either way, he's gone and for the first time in years it seems our club can look forward again instead of back to past glories long since forgotten about by anyone other than Ipswich fans.
Let's celebrate that shall we, rather than raking over the coals of an era that was, regardless of intention, ultimately, a failure. |  |
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| Interesting stuff in the KOA interview on 10:55 - Feb 18 with 476 views | Churchman |
| Interesting stuff in the KOA interview on 10:05 - Feb 18 by BlueandTruesince82 |
Someone would have come along eventually I'm sure but who that would have been is an unknown quantity.
As I said Gold and Sullivan didn't turn up until Evans was preferd bidder and in a period of exclusively that would have could have lead to much legal wrangling and expense to the club had it been broken.
We do not know how long we may have sat in admin for.
Evans was the only person stumping up the cash to buy at the time. Had he not I'm sure eventually someone would but that's v much if, buts and maybes. I know the chap that ran Bolton to near bankruptcy was at one point mooted as a possible buyer but don't belive he ultimately shored up that interest.
Evans wasn't tbe asset striper some make out but it did make shockingly bad decisions throughout his tenure and clearly lost interest through the 2nd half.
Sheepy and Burley do bear some responsibility, instead of trying to compete in Europe we should have just enjoyed the ride. Evans bears a lot of responsibility but that's for making bad appointments as much as anything (only 1 manager of his tenure can be even remotely considered to have been successful)
But he did the right thing when he left, wrote off an awful lot of money and I think he tried, at least at 1st to push the club on. His failure to have anyone with a football background at a boardroom level is perhaps his most negligent decision.
Was a good owner? Not really, but nor was he the devil some would paint him as.
Certainly we have seen far worse owners try to ruin clubs over the course of Evans time here.
So a below average owner, who wanted to be a good owner but failed I think is fair.
Either way, he's gone and for the first time in years it seems our club can look forward again instead of back to past glories long since forgotten about by anyone other than Ipswich fans.
Let's celebrate that shall we, rather than raking over the coals of an era that was, regardless of intention, ultimately, a failure. |
I can think of one or two worse than Evans, but not many. Specifically the idiots at Blackpool, Charlton, Bolton and Portsmouth. Three of those clubs are on a par with us, one is in the Championship.
No, Evans didn’t actively wreck or asset strip the club, he just allowed it to rot from the inside out - every aspect of it. It was dying and without a takeover we would probably have been heading towards L2 and beyond.
As for his predecessor, the accountability for bankruptcy lies with Sheepshanks. Burley brought the wrong people in, but DS was accountable for the club’s finances and losing his head with them. |  | | |
| Interesting stuff in the KOA interview on 12:22 - Feb 18 with 406 views | hoppy |
| Interesting stuff in the KOA interview on 15:53 - Feb 17 by FrimleyBlue |
Lets be fair, he took over the club being told a little bit of money spent would bring automatic promotion and a nice bit of profit on his investment and then he could sell the club in the prem.
Didn't happen and he was stuck with us. |
If he'd just made an extra bit of investment to back McCarthy in that January 2015 transfer window, with us 2nd in the league at the time, he may just have achieved his aim. |  |
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