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For the cretins defending him, claiming that he is not a treacherous self serving arshole, then explain his nonsense about Nato and the EU being responsible for Russia attacking Ukraine.
Ukraine is a sovereign state and should be free to do as it pleases, with regard to who it aligns with. Was that not what the Russians told Farage to say ?
Note how the righties are defending Putin. Trump, Fox News and Farage jumping now their paymaster has cracked the whip.
This latter day William Joyce told us Russia would not attack the Ukraine. Nato is not the EU, but it does not stop this traitor from speaking as if they were..
Farages sort were interned during WW2, and the French gave them and their kind short shrift after the war, as we did with Joyce, and Italy did with Mussolini.
in what way was this war the only solution? what should nato have done to avoid it?
Did you actually read the Fiona Hill interview or not?
There are a lot of different events covered, over a number of years, and involving many different actors across different sectors. We didn’t suddenly wake up in February 2022 with a standoff and an inevitable invasion.
I am by no means an expert in what NATO should or shouldn’t have done. For example, I’d have explored other non-military options just like the Environmental, Social and Governance idea she raised. Only much earlier ...
Oh and cracking down on dirty Russian money and donors couldn’t have hurt either.
Did you actually read the Fiona Hill interview or not?
There are a lot of different events covered, over a number of years, and involving many different actors across different sectors. We didn’t suddenly wake up in February 2022 with a standoff and an inevitable invasion.
I am by no means an expert in what NATO should or shouldn’t have done. For example, I’d have explored other non-military options just like the Environmental, Social and Governance idea she raised. Only much earlier ...
Oh and cracking down on dirty Russian money and donors couldn’t have hurt either.
what she says is that we should have reacted sooner and accepted at an earlier stage that under piton russian expansionism is innate and that our longer-term interests lay in not developing business links or dependencies. we should have done what we are doing now in 2014 and been less complacent. nato needed to be stronger not to have stepped back more. i'm not sure why you keep focusing on nato's military actions - there haven't been any.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
what she says is that we should have reacted sooner and accepted at an earlier stage that under piton russian expansionism is innate and that our longer-term interests lay in not developing business links or dependencies. we should have done what we are doing now in 2014 and been less complacent. nato needed to be stronger not to have stepped back more. i'm not sure why you keep focusing on nato's military actions - there haven't been any.
I didn’t say “military actions”. I’ve talked about posturings such as pushing troops into neighbouring countries but it’s mainly the expansion overtures they’ve made.
How should they have been stronger and why wouldn’t that also have played into Putin’s hands or at least fed his crazed logic by threatening the “Empire”?
Our current fairly impotent position and lack of options shows that matching strength isn’t really the answer.
what she says is that we should have reacted sooner and accepted at an earlier stage that under piton russian expansionism is innate and that our longer-term interests lay in not developing business links or dependencies. we should have done what we are doing now in 2014 and been less complacent. nato needed to be stronger not to have stepped back more. i'm not sure why you keep focusing on nato's military actions - there haven't been any.
You did plenty to enable the current political mess of fifth columns leading our government and destroying democracy/factual news by promoting their factually incorrect news about Corbyn being a fifth column intent on destroying democracy.
The fact you've still not spotted the snake swallowing it's own tail and keep talking about NATO is telling. If we had of challenged the open wealth espionage in the first place as Corbyn suggested we may not even be speaking about NATO at all right now.
Last time I stated about "enabling fascism" you took the piss. I suggest you open your eyes, maybe read some of those Carole Cadwallada threads flying about here this week.
I didn’t say “military actions”. I’ve talked about posturings such as pushing troops into neighbouring countries but it’s mainly the expansion overtures they’ve made.
How should they have been stronger and why wouldn’t that also have played into Putin’s hands or at least fed his crazed logic by threatening the “Empire”?
Our current fairly impotent position and lack of options shows that matching strength isn’t really the answer.
It never ceases to amaze me how everyone is wrong and only you are right koonters.
You did plenty to enable the current political mess of fifth columns leading our government and destroying democracy/factual news by promoting their factually incorrect news about Corbyn being a fifth column intent on destroying democracy.
The fact you've still not spotted the snake swallowing it's own tail and keep talking about NATO is telling. If we had of challenged the open wealth espionage in the first place as Corbyn suggested we may not even be speaking about NATO at all right now.
Last time I stated about "enabling fascism" you took the piss. I suggest you open your eyes, maybe read some of those Carole Cadwallada threads flying about here this week.
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wibble.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
The classic response of someone still failing to grasp the fact they were taken for a fool, and then doubling down.
fifth columns leading our government and destroying democracy. tick. corbyn undermined by russia. tick. enabling fascism.tick.
purest wibble.
russian money in uk politics is generally a bad thing. but you have zero judgement and don't where to stop. you're clearly someone in search a convenient all embracing world view and conspiracy nonsense will therefore always stick.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
fifth columns leading our government and destroying democracy. tick. corbyn undermined by russia. tick. enabling fascism.tick.
purest wibble.
russian money in uk politics is generally a bad thing. but you have zero judgement and don't where to stop. you're clearly someone in search a convenient all embracing world view and conspiracy nonsense will therefore always stick.
I really think you don’t know where to start.
You’ve been an apologist for the status quo for years. Given the state of the UK and the world at this moment perhaps it’s time to just shut up rather than keep defending it? And especially stop being utterly obsessed with attacking those who want change.
You’ve been an apologist for the status quo for years. Given the state of the UK and the world at this moment perhaps it’s time to just shut up rather than keep defending it? And especially stop being utterly obsessed with attacking those who want change.
oh do shut up you pompous twerp.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
fifth columns leading our government and destroying democracy. tick. corbyn undermined by russia. tick. enabling fascism.tick.
purest wibble.
russian money in uk politics is generally a bad thing. but you have zero judgement and don't where to stop. you're clearly someone in search a convenient all embracing world view and conspiracy nonsense will therefore always stick.
Imagine posting this thinking THIS WILL SHOW HOW IT REALLY IS and it just proving further how ill-informed you are and how much you’ve been taken for a chump.
Hint, the grown ups are talking here. Maybe for once use your brain…
Some of us are actually paying attention whilst you debate which flavour boots you’d like someone in a red tie to wear and which right wing whataboutery you are going to low key parrot for the week.
i have to say that really is the dream team of down votes. a full house.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
a connoisseur perhaps. but all five together, it's incredible - a conversation piece. if only i could keep it as an nft.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
Whatever they’re doing nobody wants. We’ve got lying, disingenuous and self-serving politicians ... who wants their fanboys?
there's a serous discussion to be had about russian influence and the manipulative nature of social media but that thread isn't it. once the usual suspects wrap it up into the usual half-witted conspiracy nonsense it's best avoided.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
a connoisseur perhaps. but all five together, it's incredible - a conversation piece. if only i could keep it as an nft.
You could screen print it, laminate it and save it for those miserable evenings when no one comes round for a cocoa & your TWTD highlights reel. Any day that ends in a ‘y’ really…
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