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For the cretins defending him, claiming that he is not a treacherous self serving arshole, then explain his nonsense about Nato and the EU being responsible for Russia attacking Ukraine.
Ukraine is a sovereign state and should be free to do as it pleases, with regard to who it aligns with. Was that not what the Russians told Farage to say ?
Note how the righties are defending Putin. Trump, Fox News and Farage jumping now their paymaster has cracked the whip.
This latter day William Joyce told us Russia would not attack the Ukraine. Nato is not the EU, but it does not stop this traitor from speaking as if they were..
Farages sort were interned during WW2, and the French gave them and their kind short shrift after the war, as we did with Joyce, and Italy did with Mussolini.
there's a serous discussion to be had about russian influence and the manipulative nature of social media but that thread isn't it. once the usual suspects wrap it up into the usual half-witted conspiracy nonsense it's best avoided.
There’s a thread elsewhere I linked you to. Still not posted your wisdom and PWN THE LIBS take in there yet I see.
there's a serous discussion to be had about russian influence and the manipulative nature of social media but that thread isn't it. once the usual suspects wrap it up into the usual half-witted conspiracy nonsense it's best avoided.
Oh please.
Your conspiracy of smeary left-baiting is far worse and more real.
What’s your end-game? And how can you still push that against all the evidence?
Your conspiracy of smeary left-baiting is far worse and more real.
What’s your end-game? And how can you still push that against all the evidence?
what evidence of what? your opinionated waffle isn't evidence.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
what evidence of what? your opinionated waffle isn't evidence.
Your “Stay calm. Everything is as it should be” really isn’t evidence of it working.
Nobody’s buying that nonsense anymore. I can understand people don’t feel comfortable with unfamiliar alternatives but there has to be more, surely?
But here’s your chance. Take off your managed decline jacket and show us the way forward. What do you think we should be focusing on as a country? No policy detail, just the areas to focus on.
Your “Stay calm. Everything is as it should be” really isn’t evidence of it working.
Nobody’s buying that nonsense anymore. I can understand people don’t feel comfortable with unfamiliar alternatives but there has to be more, surely?
But here’s your chance. Take off your managed decline jacket and show us the way forward. What do you think we should be focusing on as a country? No policy detail, just the areas to focus on.
what evidence of what? your opinionated waffle isn't evidence.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
But all this talk of NATO expansion hasn’t really happened in Putins timeline anyway so it’s just enabling him.
NATO have had a land border with Russia since 1949.
The last country to join NATO with a border to Russia was 18 years ago.
Notwithstanding those facts, these countries joined out of choice, not some imperialist NATO march to Russia border. They largely joined because they didn’t much enjoy decades of being killed, oppressed and impoverished by Russian occupation. So it’s also a little insensitive to suggest they have no right to join a defensive alliance.
Totally agree. Ukraine are free to decide their own relationship with NATO and the EU. I’m not defending Abbott’s stance, just thought that she was being misrepresented.
You literally have nothing to say about the stuff that apparently keeps you on this forum.
Just be a real human being and say what you think is important. That’s what politics ultimately is.
to remind you what i asked.
you say "And how can you still push that against all the evidence?"
i asked what is this "evidence"?
shall we just assume there's none?
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
you say "And how can you still push that against all the evidence?"
i asked what is this "evidence"?
shall we just assume there's none?
You’re asking me to give evidence about what?
I’ve always dealt in evidence. You never have.
But we know that, my question is what’s important to you? I’ve gone on record that I think child poverty is one of the absolute biggest issues. Then climate change. Racial equality. Wealth inequality. Social justice. Low productivity. Centralisation. Democratic deficit. The challlenge of the future with AI and automation at the forefront. Wars and who they’re meant to help.
These are the things that I care about – amongst much more when you get into the detail.
What do you care about? And if you can’t answer that, why are you here?
you say "And how can you still push that against all the evidence?"
i asked what is this "evidence"?
shall we just assume there's none?
What specifically do you want evidence of? If it’s Russian influence, I linked you to a thread, your only contribution is wind up someone on a side-quest discussion in the thread.
But we know that, my question is what’s important to you? I’ve gone on record that I think child poverty is one of the absolute biggest issues. Then climate change. Racial equality. Wealth inequality. Social justice. Low productivity. Centralisation. Democratic deficit. The challlenge of the future with AI and automation at the forefront. Wars and who they’re meant to help.
These are the things that I care about – amongst much more when you get into the detail.
What do you care about? And if you can’t answer that, why are you here?
you're the one who claimed to have evidence. about what was indeed my question.
my priorities are addressing economic and class inequality, justice including civil rights, climate, security and public services. but the devil is in the detail and we don't agree on many of the policies required. and while i don't doubt we share many objectives, listing issues doesn't get anywhere near solutions or winning an election. and, again, thinking that you're entitled to ask others "why are you here?" is really remarkably pompous.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
you're the one who claimed to have evidence. about what was indeed my question.
my priorities are addressing economic and class inequality, justice including civil rights, climate, security and public services. but the devil is in the detail and we don't agree on many of the policies required. and while i don't doubt we share many objectives, listing issues doesn't get anywhere near solutions or winning an election. and, again, thinking that you're entitled to ask others "why are you here?" is really remarkably pompous.
But yet I’ve never heard you talk about any of that.
The only thing you talk about is winning an election. But never on a platform of those particular issues or pushing for any of them in general discussions.
you're the one who claimed to have evidence. about what was indeed my question.
my priorities are addressing economic and class inequality, justice including civil rights, climate, security and public services. but the devil is in the detail and we don't agree on many of the policies required. and while i don't doubt we share many objectives, listing issues doesn't get anywhere near solutions or winning an election. and, again, thinking that you're entitled to ask others "why are you here?" is really remarkably pompous.
Weird I’ve never seen you post much about any of these priorities.
Weird you usually post arguing against people with these priorities who do post about it.
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