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IMF - UK will have 2nd worst performing economy in the G20 15:04 - Apr 19 with 1244 viewsElderGrizzly

And not even in the top 100 globally. Sunlit uplands etc

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IMF - UK will have 2nd worst performing economy in the G20 on 15:11 - Apr 19 with 1197 viewsfooters

We need to leave the EU before we're able to do anything about it though.

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IMF - UK will have 2nd worst performing economy in the G20 on 15:15 - Apr 19 with 1187 viewsXYZ

Who knew that a Chancellor with his eye on not taxing his non-dom wife and in maintaining his US residency rights would not lose sleep over tanking the GB economy.

It's be interesting to see GB -v- NI figures.
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IMF - UK will have 2nd worst performing economy in the G20 on 15:23 - Apr 19 with 1129 viewschicoazul

Maybe part of the problem is public sector workers guffing about on TWTD all day every day.

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IMF - UK will have 2nd worst performing economy in the G20 on 15:28 - Apr 19 with 1134 viewsBlueBadger

IMF - UK will have 2nd worst performing economy in the G20 on 15:23 - Apr 19 by chicoazul

Maybe part of the problem is public sector workers guffing about on TWTD all day every day.


Mate, if the private sector was as efficient, conscientious and hard working as you're claiming, this place would be empty and Phil and Gav would have had to get proper jobs years ago.
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IMF - UK will have 2nd worst performing economy in the G20 on 15:32 - Apr 19 with 1098 viewsElderGrizzly

IMF - UK will have 2nd worst performing economy in the G20 on 15:23 - Apr 19 by chicoazul

Maybe part of the problem is public sector workers guffing about on TWTD all day every day.


Would be true, if I wasn't working the evening/night shift I suppose ;)
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IMF - UK will have 2nd worst performing economy in the G20 on 15:32 - Apr 19 with 1096 viewsmylittletown

Sounds like Project Fear.
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IMF - UK will have 2nd worst performing economy in the G20 on 16:03 - Apr 19 with 1020 viewsmutters

Last year we outperformed most, this year we are forecasted to be one of better performing economies so will currently take 2023 prediction with a massive 'lets see what happens'. Lots of policies can be implemented to impact growth between now and then

I am sure these figures will be revisited in a few months and quite possibly the UK could be forecasted to do a lot better.

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IMF - UK will have 2nd worst performing economy in the G20 on 16:31 - Apr 19 with 950 viewsBlueBadger

IMF - UK will have 2nd worst performing economy in the G20 on 16:03 - Apr 19 by mutters

Last year we outperformed most, this year we are forecasted to be one of better performing economies so will currently take 2023 prediction with a massive 'lets see what happens'. Lots of policies can be implemented to impact growth between now and then

I am sure these figures will be revisited in a few months and quite possibly the UK could be forecasted to do a lot better.


What is it about economic collapse, spurious promises of money that were never going to happen, the break up of the union, loss of protections to employment rights and ethe environment, open corrupt and xenophobia of the Brexit project that appealed to you?

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IMF - UK will have 2nd worst performing economy in the G20 on 16:33 - Apr 19 with 944 viewsXYZ

IMF - UK will have 2nd worst performing economy in the G20 on 16:03 - Apr 19 by mutters

Last year we outperformed most, this year we are forecasted to be one of better performing economies so will currently take 2023 prediction with a massive 'lets see what happens'. Lots of policies can be implemented to impact growth between now and then

I am sure these figures will be revisited in a few months and quite possibly the UK could be forecasted to do a lot better.


How does GB look, comparatively, since December 2019? i.e pre-pandemic.

Growing 5% in 2021 is not "performance" when the economy shrank by 10% in 2020; it's loosened restrictions partially regaining past losses.

"let's see what happens" when inflation is 9% and interest rates are rising.

Old people are going to die of hypothermia and malnutrition is going to make a name for itself (again).

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IMF - UK will have 2nd worst performing economy in the G20 on 16:58 - Apr 19 with 882 viewsfactual_blue

IMF - UK will have 2nd worst performing economy in the G20 on 16:31 - Apr 19 by BlueBadger

What is it about economic collapse, spurious promises of money that were never going to happen, the break up of the union, loss of protections to employment rights and ethe environment, open corrupt and xenophobia of the Brexit project that appealed to you?


Shame on you for doubting the withering economic analysis daveU has added to this thread.

By withering economic analysis, I in fact mean an upvote for the OP.

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IMF - UK will have 2nd worst performing economy in the G20 on 17:05 - Apr 19 with 872 viewsmutters

IMF - UK will have 2nd worst performing economy in the G20 on 16:31 - Apr 19 by BlueBadger

What is it about economic collapse, spurious promises of money that were never going to happen, the break up of the union, loss of protections to employment rights and ethe environment, open corrupt and xenophobia of the Brexit project that appealed to you?


God man you are like a broken record at times :-)

The comment was related to the validity of the figures and how often they can change. What they project now will be very different in 6 months' time (either better or worse). The economy in 2021 was supposed to be shocking but it turned out better than originally projected.

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IMF - UK will have 2nd worst performing economy in the G20 on 17:20 - Apr 19 with 841 viewsYou_Bloo_Right

Who is this "weaker than expected British consumer"?

Can't we have a whip round so he buys some more stuff?

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IMF - UK will have 2nd worst performing economy in the G20 on 17:37 - Apr 19 with 809 viewsmutters

IMF - UK will have 2nd worst performing economy in the G20 on 16:33 - Apr 19 by XYZ

How does GB look, comparatively, since December 2019? i.e pre-pandemic.

Growing 5% in 2021 is not "performance" when the economy shrank by 10% in 2020; it's loosened restrictions partially regaining past losses.

"let's see what happens" when inflation is 9% and interest rates are rising.

Old people are going to die of hypothermia and malnutrition is going to make a name for itself (again).

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My comment was around the numbers and how they are often prone to change as time goes on. I would be interested for my own curiousity about how accurate these projections have been over the years compared to what in reality occurred and what the delta was.

The numbers you quote are the Spanish numbers not the UK numbers, and again when you compare them to the other major economies for 21 & 22 they do not look too bad. However, as you rightly raised, scratch below the surface and the actual social cost is horrendous.

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IMF - UK will have 2nd worst performing economy in the G20 on 17:44 - Apr 19 with 793 viewsXYZ

IMF - UK will have 2nd worst performing economy in the G20 on 17:05 - Apr 19 by mutters

God man you are like a broken record at times :-)

The comment was related to the validity of the figures and how often they can change. What they project now will be very different in 6 months' time (either better or worse). The economy in 2021 was supposed to be shocking but it turned out better than originally projected.


"The IMF are wrong because they update their projections every six months"

Not the greatest argument.

It's easier to predict future economic performance in April 2022 than it was in October 2020.

Check the performance since December 2019.

Comparing 2021's actual result against projections made in late-2020 and claiming the result is indicative of the validity of the IMF's past and future projections is laughable.
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IMF - UK will have 2nd worst performing economy in the G20 on 17:46 - Apr 19 with 788 viewsXYZ

IMF - UK will have 2nd worst performing economy in the G20 on 17:37 - Apr 19 by mutters

My comment was around the numbers and how they are often prone to change as time goes on. I would be interested for my own curiousity about how accurate these projections have been over the years compared to what in reality occurred and what the delta was.

The numbers you quote are the Spanish numbers not the UK numbers, and again when you compare them to the other major economies for 21 & 22 they do not look too bad. However, as you rightly raised, scratch below the surface and the actual social cost is horrendous.


The numbers I quoted were meant to be illustrative.

Having looked, I think it's -9.7% (2020) and +7% (2021) for the UK.
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IMF - UK will have 2nd worst performing economy in the G20 on 17:58 - Apr 19 with 766 viewsSwansea_Blue

The key one for most of us is wages not keeping up with inflation. On top of hundreds of pounds of extra fuel bills, that’s going to hurt a lot of people.

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IMF - UK will have 2nd worst performing economy in the G20 on 18:18 - Apr 19 with 735 viewsfactual_blue

So long as the brexit dividend is building us a new hospital every week, I'm happy.

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IMF - UK will have 2nd worst performing economy in the G20 on 19:11 - Apr 19 with 681 viewsBlueBadger

IMF - UK will have 2nd worst performing economy in the G20 on 17:37 - Apr 19 by mutters

My comment was around the numbers and how they are often prone to change as time goes on. I would be interested for my own curiousity about how accurate these projections have been over the years compared to what in reality occurred and what the delta was.

The numbers you quote are the Spanish numbers not the UK numbers, and again when you compare them to the other major economies for 21 & 22 they do not look too bad. However, as you rightly raised, scratch below the surface and the actual social cost is horrendous.


DaveU agrees with you. That's how wrong you are.

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