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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. 17:42 - Apr 25 with 548667 viewsEireannach_gorm

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/25/evidence-ukraine-women-raped-befor





https://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-turned-a-bucha-building-into-an-execution-si
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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 11:33 - Feb 24 with 6072 viewsEireannach_gorm

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/ukraine-crisis-anniversary-t
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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 13:43 - Feb 24 with 6013 viewsChurchman

I watched BBC news just now. On it was a woman who nearly a year ago had buried her son next to their destroyed house. She is of course destroyed too. Her view was that the war will not end until ‘that animal in the Kremlin is dead’. Her words. She is right too.

There have been people on this forum doing the even handed bit, trying to justify Russian actions as a response to western aggression, appeasers, peace at any cost merchants, people that actually side with the animal that Ukraine is not a country and has no right to exist.

Rightly, those people are very much in the minority and it’s rather ironic that they are fortunate enough to live in a country that allows them to express an opinion.

What is clear one year on is that the animal’s original objective of an easy territory and asset grab is in the bin. He is left in an attritional war that he might well win thanks to western weakness, but even if he does he’s going to have to kill an awful lot of Ukrainians and possibly enslave the rest to do it. That dreadful creature has solidified resistance not broken it.

The Russians and Germans tried to do that with the Polish people over a period of 50 years and never got close to succeeding - even after the Allies so badly failed Poland. Russia won’t succeed long term with Ukraine either.

The lessons are all there. It’s up to the west, including reluctants like Germany, Italy and France, to ensure Russia doesn’t succeed even if there is an economic cost to bear. It’s time for Europe to step up and not just leave it to the US, Poland and the Baltic states. It’s in all our interests.
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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 13:50 - Feb 24 with 5993 viewsDJR

Sadly, the anniversary of the conflict brings back memories of my 94 year old mother who died a few days after it started.

One of the abiding memories I have of her last few days was her concern for the safety of Clive Myrie (a favourite of hers) when Kiev came under attack.
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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 13:55 - Feb 24 with 5988 viewsChurchman

The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 13:50 - Feb 24 by DJR

Sadly, the anniversary of the conflict brings back memories of my 94 year old mother who died a few days after it started.

One of the abiding memories I have of her last few days was her concern for the safety of Clive Myrie (a favourite of hers) when Kiev came under attack.


He’s back in Kiev for the anniversary. She was right to like him. He’s a good reporter.
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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 23:04 - Feb 24 with 5915 viewsNthsuffolkblue

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/more-than-700-000-ukrainian-children-have-r

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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 23:47 - Feb 24 with 5887 viewsChurchman

The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 23:04 - Feb 24 by Nthsuffolkblue

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/more-than-700-000-ukrainian-children-have-r


How appalling. The Germans did a similar thing. It’s not new. The idea is to reprogram the children into good Russians. I’m sure with the right…… care…… it will be successful. The people doing this, led by Putin are animals. Less than cockroaches.

And people in the west support Russia or feel that they’ve been forced into behaviour like this by NATO/ the west or that Ukraine isn’t worth the risk of supporting should have a rethink in my view..
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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 14:43 - Feb 25 with 5752 viewsNthsuffolkblue

The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 23:47 - Feb 24 by Churchman

How appalling. The Germans did a similar thing. It’s not new. The idea is to reprogram the children into good Russians. I’m sure with the right…… care…… it will be successful. The people doing this, led by Putin are animals. Less than cockroaches.

And people in the west support Russia or feel that they’ve been forced into behaviour like this by NATO/ the west or that Ukraine isn’t worth the risk of supporting should have a rethink in my view..
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It is disgusting and I am sure that, especially at younger ages, it could be successful. However, I would imagine that for older children, the policy would be rather less successful.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/all-lives-are-priceless-russian-ambassador-

Does the Russian ambassador not realise that peace is entirely in Putin's grasp? What do they think the reality of an occupation would be even if they did win? The daily resistance of Ukrainians would remain costly to the Russian occupiers.

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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 12:21 - Feb 26 with 5662 viewsDJR

I think this is an interesting development, and may explain why I always preferred the pragmatism of McDonnell to the idealism of Corbyn.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/feb/26/labour-left-breaks-with-jeremy-
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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 16:58 - Feb 26 with 5573 viewsNthsuffolkblue

The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 23:04 - Feb 24 by Nthsuffolkblue

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/more-than-700-000-ukrainian-children-have-r


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/that-s-my-neighbour-mariupol-residents-shoc

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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 21:19 - Feb 27 with 5435 viewsNthsuffolkblue

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/vladimir-putin-spy-plane-destroyed-112333455.html

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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 23:39 - Feb 28 with 5184 viewsEireannach_gorm

Interesting development.



Then

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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 00:21 - Mar 1 with 5180 viewsChurchman

Interesting reporting from AP News. Real or propaganda? No idea, but behind animal putin’s meat grinder are real people being fed into it.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-intercepts-2b14732d88b3f58d4a9d0b2
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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 17:35 - Mar 1 with 5005 viewsNthsuffolkblue

The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 00:21 - Mar 1 by Churchman

Interesting reporting from AP News. Real or propaganda? No idea, but behind animal putin’s meat grinder are real people being fed into it.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-intercepts-2b14732d88b3f58d4a9d0b2


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/ukraine-war-news-latest-putin-sends-girl-wh

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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 20:13 - Mar 1 with 4935 viewsEireannach_gorm

The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 17:35 - Mar 1 by Nthsuffolkblue

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/ukraine-war-news-latest-putin-sends-girl-wh


Amazing stuff alright.

https://en.ovdinfo.org/father-jail-his-daughter-orphanage
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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 21:48 - Mar 1 with 4878 viewsNthsuffolkblue

The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 20:13 - Mar 1 by Eireannach_gorm

Amazing stuff alright.

https://en.ovdinfo.org/father-jail-his-daughter-orphanage


Amazing isn't the adjective I would choose.

No one should be in any doubt that Russia is committing atrocities on a scale not seen in Europe since World War 2.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/the-harrowing-discovery-in-ukraine-at-the-c

A slightly better outcome to this one: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/ukrainian-nurse-recovers-injured-son-from-m
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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 22:36 - Mar 1 with 4841 viewsWeWereZombies

The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 21:48 - Mar 1 by Nthsuffolkblue

Amazing isn't the adjective I would choose.

No one should be in any doubt that Russia is committing atrocities on a scale not seen in Europe since World War 2.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/the-harrowing-discovery-in-ukraine-at-the-c

A slightly better outcome to this one: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/ukrainian-nurse-recovers-injured-son-from-m
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Whilst in no way wanting to give Russia excuses I don't think we should forget what happened in the Balkans thirty years ago:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing_in_the_Bosnian_War

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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 23:09 - Mar 1 with 4785 viewsEireannach_gorm

The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 21:48 - Mar 1 by Nthsuffolkblue

Amazing isn't the adjective I would choose.

No one should be in any doubt that Russia is committing atrocities on a scale not seen in Europe since World War 2.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/the-harrowing-discovery-in-ukraine-at-the-c

A slightly better outcome to this one: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/ukrainian-nurse-recovers-injured-son-from-m
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FYI

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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 07:33 - Mar 2 with 4691 viewsChurchman

Interesting summary of Russia’s human wave tactics

https://metro.co.uk/2023/02/25/wagner-group-taking-80-losses-with-human-wave-att

You basically leapfrog forward in teams digging in as you with artillery support. Kind of bite and hold. This is proving successful. The losses don’t matter because convicts don’t matter. One step back, they’re shot by their own side. They’re expendable.

They used these tactics in the Winter War in 1940 and of course WW2. They won both wars so you can see why it’s an attractive tactic - as long as your soldiers are expendable and replaceable, which they of course are. Putin’s war is so disgusting.
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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 19:38 - Mar 2 with 4584 viewsEireannach_gorm

This is what I feared would happen and could be the death knell for Ukraine's defence.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/01/us/politics/ukraine-russia-war-support-biden.
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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 20:00 - Mar 2 with 4546 viewsDJR

The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 19:38 - Mar 2 by Eireannach_gorm

This is what I feared would happen and could be the death knell for Ukraine's defence.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/01/us/politics/ukraine-russia-war-support-biden.


I suppose this could be said to be a continuation of the parochialism of the US since Obama, which may itself have played some part in Putin making the disastrous decision that he did.
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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 22:38 - Mar 2 with 4500 viewsNthsuffolkblue

The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 22:36 - Mar 1 by WeWereZombies

Whilst in no way wanting to give Russia excuses I don't think we should forget what happened in the Balkans thirty years ago:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing_in_the_Bosnian_War


Bosnia was horrific but it is a question of scale.

Bosnia about 2.7 M displaced; 700,000 in other European countries. 10s of thousands killed.

According to UNHCR, Ukraine: 6.3M Ukrainians fled to other European countries and a further 6.6 M internally displaced. 2.8M of those externally displaced have gone to Russia. What proportion forcibly so? What conditions have they been displaced to? I am a little confused that the article then quotes 8M displaced in Europe. Deaths in Ukraine? Suggestions that 40,000 civilians have died so far in Ukraine.

https://www.dw.com/en/russias-war-on-ukraine-in-numbers/a-64785451
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63580372

There is plenty of evidence of war crimes being committed in Ukraine.

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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 23:15 - Mar 2 with 4489 viewsWeWereZombies

The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 22:38 - Mar 2 by Nthsuffolkblue

Bosnia was horrific but it is a question of scale.

Bosnia about 2.7 M displaced; 700,000 in other European countries. 10s of thousands killed.

According to UNHCR, Ukraine: 6.3M Ukrainians fled to other European countries and a further 6.6 M internally displaced. 2.8M of those externally displaced have gone to Russia. What proportion forcibly so? What conditions have they been displaced to? I am a little confused that the article then quotes 8M displaced in Europe. Deaths in Ukraine? Suggestions that 40,000 civilians have died so far in Ukraine.

https://www.dw.com/en/russias-war-on-ukraine-in-numbers/a-64785451
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63580372

There is plenty of evidence of war crimes being committed in Ukraine.


This is all true and, in the West, undisputed. One of the key issues though is that it was tough getting Milosevic to The Hague and convicted. It looks to be well nigh impossible for the same treatment to be meted out to Putin - there is not just the question of power dynamics to contend with. Putin is also a blusterer, he lays out vast quantities of legalese to obfuscate any International processes. And in a war between one Orthodox nation and another Orthodox nation will any case for ethnic cleansing be proven ?

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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 00:10 - Mar 3 with 5991 viewsChurchman

The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 19:38 - Mar 2 by Eireannach_gorm

This is what I feared would happen and could be the death knell for Ukraine's defence.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/01/us/politics/ukraine-russia-war-support-biden.


It’s what Putin is banking on. It’s also the weakness of Biden’s life support policy. When fatigue sets in and the will falters, it all collapses. If this is true, I can see Ukraine folding quite quickly. After Ukraine, I think we can guess whose next.
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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 10:17 - Mar 3 with 5895 viewsKievthegreat

Hearing a few pieces suggesting that Ukraine is withdrawing/has withdrawn from Bakhmut. Makes sense as the Russians have been taking quite advanced positions around the city, especially to the North. It has seemed to be a matter of when, not if for the last couple of weeks as Russians captured the surrounding villages and gradually captured roads into the city.

Hopefully Ukrainian forces have been able to prepare new positions beyond Bahkmut. Although I'm not sure what state the Russians will be in to continue the advance.




EDIT: Adding footage of bridge being blown
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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 11:40 - Mar 3 with 5840 viewsChurchman

The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 10:17 - Mar 3 by Kievthegreat

Hearing a few pieces suggesting that Ukraine is withdrawing/has withdrawn from Bakhmut. Makes sense as the Russians have been taking quite advanced positions around the city, especially to the North. It has seemed to be a matter of when, not if for the last couple of weeks as Russians captured the surrounding villages and gradually captured roads into the city.

Hopefully Ukrainian forces have been able to prepare new positions beyond Bahkmut. Although I'm not sure what state the Russians will be in to continue the advance.




EDIT: Adding footage of bridge being blown
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They have an almost unlimited supply of cannon fodder. It doesn’t take much to train recruits/prisoners in human wave formations. There is zero cost in lives to the Russians because the lives don’t matter. I suspect they plenty of ammunition too and even if they don’t. Their friends will supply what they need.

I suspect the Russians will push hard now. They may call for peace once they have taken what they want for now and everyone bar Ukraine will grasp their hands in relief. Advantage Russia at the moment. It really does remind me of the Winter War and suspect the outcome will be the same.
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