The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 22:12 - Apr 23 with 5839 views | Eireannach_gorm | |  | |  |
The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 23:49 - Apr 23 with 5796 views | Churchman | Interesting article on digital control https://carnegieendowment.org/politika/89553 This should close loopholes and ensure sufficient meat it available for the grinder in addition to ensuring the meat does exactly what the state wants. Total control of the people. Politicians’ dream. |  | |  |
The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 18:57 - Apr 27 with 5651 views | Eireannach_gorm | |  | |  |
The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 18:11 - Apr 30 with 5508 views | Nthsuffolkblue | If you don't care about your soldiers I suppose this is to be expected: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/russian-forces-suffer-radiation-sickness-af Although, "But the occupiers who, as one resident put it to The Times, “understood the risks” but were “just thick”, installed themselves in the forest, reportedly carved out trenches, fished in the reactor’s cooling channel" |  |
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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 17:16 - May 3 with 5431 views | Eireannach_gorm | That will keep them on their toes! |  | |  |
The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 11:14 - May 4 with 5273 views | Churchman |
I doubt Putin will use battlefield nuclear weapons. These things are generally far more powerful than those dropped on Japan in 1945 despite the downplay terminology. If he uses them, it’s game over for him in my view. As for puppet state Belarus, it’s all part of the mother country and I presume 99% of the people all support their master, Putin. |  | |  | Login to get fewer ads
The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 14:43 - May 5 with 5189 views | Eireannach_gorm | Promising news ( These are supersonic missiles ). |  | |  |
The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 17:19 - May 5 with 5145 views | Eireannach_gorm | Law of unintended concequences. |  | |  |
The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 11:40 - May 8 with 5014 views | Eireannach_gorm | I wonder has Priti Patel seen this? |  | |  |
The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 17:28 - May 11 with 4582 views | Eireannach_gorm | Brewing up a storm. |  | |  |
The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 09:56 - May 12 with 4479 views | WeWereZombies |
The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 17:28 - May 11 by Eireannach_gorm | Brewing up a storm. |
Let us hope that Russia does not regard this supply as sufficient provocation to take some form of direct action against this archipelago off the north west coast of continental Europe (as opposed to carrying on poisoning of their ex.civilians on our soil.) I think this will give us a bit more of a flavour of the worries that France and Germany have. Interesting article from Al Jazeera on a possible end game, remote as it sounds: https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2023/5/10/to-achieve-peace-both-ukraine-and-r I have been watching an interview with Inger Ashing, CEO of Save The Children on BBC's 'HardTalk' recently and was struck by her phrase that 'every war is a war on children'. Clearly, Russia has tarnished an already shoddy reputation with its indiscriminate operation in Ukraine. Let us hope that the Storm Shadow missiles are used wisely and target only military installations (although the much publicised 'cannon fodder' will suffer) so that Ukraine and the United Kingdom avoid some of the International condemnation too. And that they bring Russia to the negotiating table, along with pressure from China as this article suggests is necessary, to reach a solution that ends the war and results in true self-determination for all Ukrainians, and brings the chance of better representation for Russians too. |  |
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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 12:04 - May 12 with 4467 views | StokieBlue |
The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 09:56 - May 12 by WeWereZombies | Let us hope that Russia does not regard this supply as sufficient provocation to take some form of direct action against this archipelago off the north west coast of continental Europe (as opposed to carrying on poisoning of their ex.civilians on our soil.) I think this will give us a bit more of a flavour of the worries that France and Germany have. Interesting article from Al Jazeera on a possible end game, remote as it sounds: https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2023/5/10/to-achieve-peace-both-ukraine-and-r I have been watching an interview with Inger Ashing, CEO of Save The Children on BBC's 'HardTalk' recently and was struck by her phrase that 'every war is a war on children'. Clearly, Russia has tarnished an already shoddy reputation with its indiscriminate operation in Ukraine. Let us hope that the Storm Shadow missiles are used wisely and target only military installations (although the much publicised 'cannon fodder' will suffer) so that Ukraine and the United Kingdom avoid some of the International condemnation too. And that they bring Russia to the negotiating table, along with pressure from China as this article suggests is necessary, to reach a solution that ends the war and results in true self-determination for all Ukrainians, and brings the chance of better representation for Russians too. |
Realistically though, what direct action can Russia can take against the UK which would benefit them in any way? Not sure there is any negotiated settlement possible with Putin in charge, he's not going to give up what he has and the Ukrainians aren't going to agree to the annexation of more parts of their country. SB |  | |  |
The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 12:46 - May 12 with 4443 views | Kievthegreat |
The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 09:56 - May 12 by WeWereZombies | Let us hope that Russia does not regard this supply as sufficient provocation to take some form of direct action against this archipelago off the north west coast of continental Europe (as opposed to carrying on poisoning of their ex.civilians on our soil.) I think this will give us a bit more of a flavour of the worries that France and Germany have. Interesting article from Al Jazeera on a possible end game, remote as it sounds: https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2023/5/10/to-achieve-peace-both-ukraine-and-r I have been watching an interview with Inger Ashing, CEO of Save The Children on BBC's 'HardTalk' recently and was struck by her phrase that 'every war is a war on children'. Clearly, Russia has tarnished an already shoddy reputation with its indiscriminate operation in Ukraine. Let us hope that the Storm Shadow missiles are used wisely and target only military installations (although the much publicised 'cannon fodder' will suffer) so that Ukraine and the United Kingdom avoid some of the International condemnation too. And that they bring Russia to the negotiating table, along with pressure from China as this article suggests is necessary, to reach a solution that ends the war and results in true self-determination for all Ukrainians, and brings the chance of better representation for Russians too. |
Here's the problem. Russia has only a fee limited ways to escalate the conflict now. Nuclear attack (Ukraine or otherwise) or hostile actions against other NATO members. An attack against any NATO member will results in an inevitable defeat. They can't beat Ukraine with the full force they can currently muster, they will struggle to hold back Finland or Poland right now. Nuclear runs the risk of global annihilation or complete pariah. There is no way even China would countenance sticking with Russia if it deployed nukes. Nukes work better as a threat than an actual weapon because once those gloves are off, that is the ultimate and final escalation. |  | |  |
The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 12:58 - May 12 with 4421 views | WeWereZombies |
The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 12:04 - May 12 by StokieBlue | Realistically though, what direct action can Russia can take against the UK which would benefit them in any way? Not sure there is any negotiated settlement possible with Putin in charge, he's not going to give up what he has and the Ukrainians aren't going to agree to the annexation of more parts of their country. SB |
Attacks on commercial shipping would be one way, under pretexts of vessels being in Russian waters. With global heating opening up the Northern Sea Route ever more then this is not just a question of Russia venturing into the, often disputed reach, of other European nations maritime boundaries but also restricting new traffic to its immediate north and China, being the main beneficiary of the shorter sea passage, will find ways to make the West pay. Escalation of the various proxy wars around the Globe, e.g. Syria, would be another. |  |
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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 13:12 - May 12 with 4397 views | StokieBlue |
The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 12:58 - May 12 by WeWereZombies | Attacks on commercial shipping would be one way, under pretexts of vessels being in Russian waters. With global heating opening up the Northern Sea Route ever more then this is not just a question of Russia venturing into the, often disputed reach, of other European nations maritime boundaries but also restricting new traffic to its immediate north and China, being the main beneficiary of the shorter sea passage, will find ways to make the West pay. Escalation of the various proxy wars around the Globe, e.g. Syria, would be another. |
That's all quite different to direct action against the UK which was what you highlighted in your previous post. Escalating proxy wars is something they can do but ultimately it doesn't affect the UK directly either. Attacks on shipping are possible but unlikely I would think given how much that could affect global commerce and thus turn more countries against Russia. SB |  | |  |
The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 13:28 - May 12 with 4770 views | Churchman |
The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 12:58 - May 12 by WeWereZombies | Attacks on commercial shipping would be one way, under pretexts of vessels being in Russian waters. With global heating opening up the Northern Sea Route ever more then this is not just a question of Russia venturing into the, often disputed reach, of other European nations maritime boundaries but also restricting new traffic to its immediate north and China, being the main beneficiary of the shorter sea passage, will find ways to make the West pay. Escalation of the various proxy wars around the Globe, e.g. Syria, would be another. |
Options for attacking the U.K. are verbal threats, direct or through their mad tv programmes. Who cares. Poisoning or assassinating people. Bit counter productive really. Shoot an airliner down? Bit pointless. Shipping? How, with what, where? Not going to happen. There is nothing they can do. Nuclear weapons is no option for them. There is no threat to us. Let them blunder and bluster on and continue to support Ukraine as best we can. All those lives lost for one man’s lunatic dream. |  | |  |
The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 14:20 - May 12 with 4721 views | giant_stow |
The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 13:12 - May 12 by StokieBlue | That's all quite different to direct action against the UK which was what you highlighted in your previous post. Escalating proxy wars is something they can do but ultimately it doesn't affect the UK directly either. Attacks on shipping are possible but unlikely I would think given how much that could affect global commerce and thus turn more countries against Russia. SB |
Out of interest, what do you/others think would happen if Russia lobbed a conventional missile into London? How would we retaliate, if at all? |  |
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The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 15:09 - May 12 with 4704 views | WeWereZombies |
The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 13:12 - May 12 by StokieBlue | That's all quite different to direct action against the UK which was what you highlighted in your previous post. Escalating proxy wars is something they can do but ultimately it doesn't affect the UK directly either. Attacks on shipping are possible but unlikely I would think given how much that could affect global commerce and thus turn more countries against Russia. SB |
Interesting, must be quite comforting for the relatives of mariners and passengers on shipping sunk by U-Boats during World War Two to know that their kin were not victims of direct action... I don't know if you have noticed but Putin's game plan in Machiavellian terms is to forgo the Prince who rules by being both loved and feared bit and just make do with the residual rule by fear alone. |  |
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