| The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 12:59 - Mar 3 with 5788 views | Kievthegreat |
| The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 11:40 - Mar 3 by Churchman |
They have an almost unlimited supply of cannon fodder. It doesn’t take much to train recruits/prisoners in human wave formations. There is zero cost in lives to the Russians because the lives don’t matter. I suspect they plenty of ammunition too and even if they don’t. Their friends will supply what they need.
I suspect the Russians will push hard now. They may call for peace once they have taken what they want for now and everyone bar Ukraine will grasp their hands in relief. Advantage Russia at the moment. It really does remind me of the Winter War and suspect the outcome will be the same. |
I think I'm probably a bit more optimistic, what remains to be seen is how much strength either side have really committed to Bakhmut. One hopes that Ukraine stayed rational about Bakhmut and didn't overcommit for political reasons. The symbolism of the fight for Bakhmut seems to be greatly in excess of it's strategic importance. |  | |  |
| The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 20:05 - Mar 6 with 5613 views | Eireannach_gorm |
| The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 11:40 - Mar 3 by Churchman |
They have an almost unlimited supply of cannon fodder. It doesn’t take much to train recruits/prisoners in human wave formations. There is zero cost in lives to the Russians because the lives don’t matter. I suspect they plenty of ammunition too and even if they don’t. Their friends will supply what they need.
I suspect the Russians will push hard now. They may call for peace once they have taken what they want for now and everyone bar Ukraine will grasp their hands in relief. Advantage Russia at the moment. It really does remind me of the Winter War and suspect the outcome will be the same. |
This is the prize they are fighting for.
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| The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 20:10 - Mar 6 with 5607 views | Eireannach_gorm |
This
Begets this
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| The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 20:14 - Mar 6 with 5602 views | PhilTWTD |
| The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 12:59 - Mar 3 by Kievthegreat |
I think I'm probably a bit more optimistic, what remains to be seen is how much strength either side have really committed to Bakhmut. One hopes that Ukraine stayed rational about Bakhmut and didn't overcommit for political reasons. The symbolism of the fight for Bakhmut seems to be greatly in excess of it's strategic importance. |
Indeed, from what I've read there's little strategically important about Bakhmut. Ukraine is not unhappy for Russia to be throwing men - literally - and resources at it for no wider purpose than a brief positive headline. I read somewhere that Russia is losing seven soldiers to every one of Ukraine's. And Russia eventually won't be able to replace the men they're losing and they're increasingly short of ammo and equipment. |  | | |
| The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 09:20 - Mar 7 with 5506 views | Cafe_Newman |
| The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 20:14 - Mar 6 by PhilTWTD |
Indeed, from what I've read there's little strategically important about Bakhmut. Ukraine is not unhappy for Russia to be throwing men - literally - and resources at it for no wider purpose than a brief positive headline. I read somewhere that Russia is losing seven soldiers to every one of Ukraine's. And Russia eventually won't be able to replace the men they're losing and they're increasingly short of ammo and equipment. |
I fear this may be closer to reality even though it makes uncomfortable listening for EVERYONE.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/fFMZIfYEczd3/
What a mess the world is in right now. |  | | |
| The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 18:35 - Mar 8 with 5317 views | Churchman |
| The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 20:14 - Mar 6 by PhilTWTD |
Indeed, from what I've read there's little strategically important about Bakhmut. Ukraine is not unhappy for Russia to be throwing men - literally - and resources at it for no wider purpose than a brief positive headline. I read somewhere that Russia is losing seven soldiers to every one of Ukraine's. And Russia eventually won't be able to replace the men they're losing and they're increasingly short of ammo and equipment. |
I’m not convinced that is the case. If you are happy to resort to human wave tactics, the recruits need little training, kit or ammunition. If they’re wiped out, shove along the next lot. Russia has an unlimited supply of men and cares not a jot about them. Superior numbers usually win. It’s effective. History tells us that.
The resilience of Ukraine to huge losses both military, civilian and material has been extraordinary. Amazing people. Against Russias cannon fodder human wave approach and support from China and Iran, I’m not sure how more Ukraine can do without serious external support. Let’s face it, for countries with run down military and weak leadership like the U.K. the cupboard is just about bare. [Post edited 8 Mar 2023 18:36]
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| The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 19:37 - Mar 8 with 5263 views | Kievthegreat |
I don't think it can be called a false flag as there was no pretending to be another country involved. Just everyone saying "it wasn't me" and no hard proof, at least publically, who did it.
For what it's worth, I think whoever's did it made the right decision and it wouldn't surprise me to see it was done by the UK or US. Although I suspect if it was carried out by one of these countries, that Germany, Sweden, Denmark, etc... were forewarned, even if they were allowed to plead ignorance publically. | | | |
| The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 19:41 - Mar 8 with 5250 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Fair to say everyone was happy to presume it was the Russians at the time which never made any sense. |  |
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| The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 19:47 - Mar 8 with 5241 views | PhilTWTD |
| The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 18:35 - Mar 8 by Churchman |
I’m not convinced that is the case. If you are happy to resort to human wave tactics, the recruits need little training, kit or ammunition. If they’re wiped out, shove along the next lot. Russia has an unlimited supply of men and cares not a jot about them. Superior numbers usually win. It’s effective. History tells us that.
The resilience of Ukraine to huge losses both military, civilian and material has been extraordinary. Amazing people. Against Russias cannon fodder human wave approach and support from China and Iran, I’m not sure how more Ukraine can do without serious external support. Let’s face it, for countries with run down military and weak leadership like the U.K. the cupboard is just about bare. [Post edited 8 Mar 2023 18:36]
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Russia doesn't have an unlimited supply of men, though. It has steered away from a wider conscription as politically it could cause them problems.
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-recruitment-kremlin-putin-troops-manpowe | | | |
| [Redacted] on 19:52 - Mar 8 with 5237 views | victorywilhappen |
| The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 19:37 - Mar 8 by Kievthegreat |
I don't think it can be called a false flag as there was no pretending to be another country involved. Just everyone saying "it wasn't me" and no hard proof, at least publically, who did it.
For what it's worth, I think whoever's did it made the right decision and it wouldn't surprise me to see it was done by the UK or US. Although I suspect if it was carried out by one of these countries, that Germany, Sweden, Denmark, etc... were forewarned, even if they were allowed to plead ignorance publically. |
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| The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 20:36 - Mar 8 with 5192 views | PhilTWTD |
That is what Putin believes and hopes! | | | |
| The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 20:46 - Mar 8 with 5174 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
There are suggestions that the Wagner bosses don't see it quite the same way. A reliance on lives being dispensable depends on the middle leaders agreeing. The prison population is finite and some prisoners are already failing to be fully controlled. |  |
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| [Redacted] on 21:11 - Mar 8 with 5122 views | victorywilhappen |
| The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 20:46 - Mar 8 by Nthsuffolkblue |
There are suggestions that the Wagner bosses don't see it quite the same way. A reliance on lives being dispensable depends on the middle leaders agreeing. The prison population is finite and some prisoners are already failing to be fully controlled. |
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| The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 21:17 - Mar 8 with 5104 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
This is true. | |
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| The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 12:14 - Mar 9 with 4988 views | Kievthegreat |
I'd be pretty confident that most countries behind closed doors have worked out who was likely to blame. Plus even if it was Ukraine, most countries in the West would still be okay with it (Germany might be a bit pissed). The country that has benefited most from it is arguably Norway as they removed the biggest competitor in the market.
I think that NATO will do the calculation and determine that for the West as a whole (and Ukraine), the destruction of a pipeline that was funding a huge part of the Russian war effort is a far bigger win than any diplomatic blowback. | | | |
| The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 13:14 - Mar 9 with 4971 views | DJR |
| The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 19:37 - Mar 8 by Kievthegreat |
I don't think it can be called a false flag as there was no pretending to be another country involved. Just everyone saying "it wasn't me" and no hard proof, at least publically, who did it.
For what it's worth, I think whoever's did it made the right decision and it wouldn't surprise me to see it was done by the UK or US. Although I suspect if it was carried out by one of these countries, that Germany, Sweden, Denmark, etc... were forewarned, even if they were allowed to plead ignorance publically. |
I've always thought that it was a Western government or governments behind it and it was done for strategic reasons, as it seemed too sophisticated for a non-state player, who would presumably have been caught by surveillance at the time.
The fact that it's taken over six months for a possible culprit to emerge merely confirms this, given that, say, the US is normally very quick to apportion blame, unless it itself is the culprit in which case the truth tends to drip out. |  | | |
| [Redacted] on 14:42 - Mar 9 with 4914 views | victorywilhappen |
| The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 12:14 - Mar 9 by Kievthegreat |
I'd be pretty confident that most countries behind closed doors have worked out who was likely to blame. Plus even if it was Ukraine, most countries in the West would still be okay with it (Germany might be a bit pissed). The country that has benefited most from it is arguably Norway as they removed the biggest competitor in the market.
I think that NATO will do the calculation and determine that for the West as a whole (and Ukraine), the destruction of a pipeline that was funding a huge part of the Russian war effort is a far bigger win than any diplomatic blowback. |
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| The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 18:45 - Mar 9 with 4837 views | Kievthegreat |
I think terrorist is a good word to highlight the issue of perspective. If you described the activities of resistance movements of WW2 without context, many people would describe them as terrorist. Destruction of infrastructure, murder of members of armed forces and politicians, violent insurrection and much more. Context does matter.
With regards the 3 specific examples, the first is going to happen. It has also happened in Moldova as well (which wouldn't bring in NATO). If Russia missiles fly over or close to 3rd countries airspace, Ukraine will shoot them down and that will always bring a risk. Plus even if it was a Russian missile, I still don't think we'd get article 5, more likely a strong rebuke as NATO doesn't want direct involvement (except maybe Poland).
The last depends on who carried it out. We've had reports that it was a US/Norway operation, Russia has blamed the UK, and the latest leak from the NY Times suggests it was a Ukrainian group. Bringing NATO in by destroying the pipeline seems hopeful in the extreme, much more likely (and borne out by that fact it hasn't pulled NATO in) it was to cut off Russia's ability to export Gas to Europe.
The middle one I presume relates to the grenade launcher given to the Polish Chief of Police which should have been unloaded but clearly wasn't. Seems more likely a poor choice of gift that blew up in the recipient's face, almost literally infact, than an assassination attempt. Especially as there was no great push to try and blame Russia as there was in the other 2. | | | |
| The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 23:28 - Mar 11 with 6025 views | Churchman |
I don’t think there’s much to stop these given they travel at 5x the speed of sound. Russia is certainly throwing all it can at Ukraine and it’s hard to know who time benefits the most.
There’s an interesting guardian article Russia’s satellites or allies if you wish to take Putin’s line, that suggest time might not be on his side.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/11/russia-has-lost-its-soft-power-how | | | |
| The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 23:34 - Mar 11 with 6000 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| The 'special military operation' continues to reach new lows. on 23:28 - Mar 11 by Churchman |
I don’t think there’s much to stop these given they travel at 5x the speed of sound. Russia is certainly throwing all it can at Ukraine and it’s hard to know who time benefits the most.
There’s an interesting guardian article Russia’s satellites or allies if you wish to take Putin’s line, that suggest time might not be on his side.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/11/russia-has-lost-its-soft-power-how |
Ultimately I guess it would be about preventing them being fired and whether there is a system that can detect them, identify their flightpath, send a signal and generate a response rapidly enough to deal with them. The longer the flightpath the more likely the possibility.
In this context it is likely Ukraine can do little about them. | |
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