| Town Strikers and Midfield 19:55 - Apr 28 with 2747 views | FrimleyBlue |
Was having a chat today about club transfers for summer with a Swansea fan..I know, bit random and has no consequence to this question.
But... firstly. How would you have our CM options.
Of course we have Morsy who has to start. Is he your box to box midfielder or do you keep him back and bring in a Miller type CM?
If you go for the Latter and we solve the LWB problem, would you be inclined to keep Bonne. Norwood. Pigott and Jackson?
They're all goal scorers to a certain level. I've seen some posts saying the style doesn't suit them. Is it that or is it that we just need those 2 positions sorted and it might solve our goalscoring problems?
I'm caught tbh. When you look back at some of the goals Pigott scored last season, its no surprise there was quite alot of excitement of his signing based on the league we are in. Just 1 bad season?
Norwood.. statistically not a bad goal return against starts.
Bonne.. we saw what he can do.. was it personal circumstances that changed his season etc
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| Town Strikers and Midfield on 20:26 - Apr 28 with 2614 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Piggot. Who knows. I doubt he'll move anywhere, but he needs a really good pre-season, he's 4th choice right now.
Norwood. Gone I suspect, we'll find out tomorrow or Monday I guess.
Bonne, Gone. Was 3rd choice under KM seemingly.
Jackson, will get a contract, but whether or not he'll sign to be 2nd or 3rd choice behind new man, thats something different.
Morsy is effective as a box to box midfielder. Evans is the man to protect the back three. But I'm not sure Bakinson is the right player to back up Evans if he's out for a long time. We need someone else in there that can protect the back three when needed. |  |
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| Town Strikers and Midfield on 10:29 - Apr 29 with 2118 views | ArnieM |
| Town Strikers and Midfield on 20:26 - Apr 28 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Piggot. Who knows. I doubt he'll move anywhere, but he needs a really good pre-season, he's 4th choice right now.
Norwood. Gone I suspect, we'll find out tomorrow or Monday I guess.
Bonne, Gone. Was 3rd choice under KM seemingly.
Jackson, will get a contract, but whether or not he'll sign to be 2nd or 3rd choice behind new man, thats something different.
Morsy is effective as a box to box midfielder. Evans is the man to protect the back three. But I'm not sure Bakinson is the right player to back up Evans if he's out for a long time. We need someone else in there that can protect the back three when needed. |
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| Town Strikers and Midfield on 10:31 - Apr 29 with 2108 views | hype313 |
Not sure how many times it has to be said, but McKenna has specifically talked about his requirements from a striker, and none of Norwood, Bonne or Pigott fit his description. |  |
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| Town Strikers and Midfield on 10:35 - Apr 29 with 2083 views | STYG |
'If you go for the Latter and we solve the LWB problem, would you be inclined to keep Bonne. Norwood. Pigott and Jackson?'
Holy cow.
You think that three of the four have been useless for 7 months because of the left wing back?
Let's say we get one as good as Burns, our player of the season and in the League One team of the year. The same Burns that, despite his form, has had no effect on said trio not being completely rubbish for 7 months!
Deary me. [Post edited 29 Apr 2022 10:37]
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| Town Strikers and Midfield on 10:35 - Apr 29 with 2077 views | STYG |
| Town Strikers and Midfield on 10:31 - Apr 29 by hype313 |
Not sure how many times it has to be said, but McKenna has specifically talked about his requirements from a striker, and none of Norwood, Bonne or Pigott fit his description. |
But it's all because of the LWB.
PMSL. | | | |
| Town Strikers and Midfield on 11:24 - Apr 29 with 1971 views | jayessess |
Since we've moved Morsy into the box to box position he's got 3 goals from 8 starts, which is pretty decent. If we think that's sustainable I can't see any great motivation to move him back to the holding midfield position.
He times his runs well, he's relatively composed in front of goal. You'd be hard pressed to find a more natural goalscorer who also does all the other stuff Morsy does (although Brannagan probably does fit the bill). It's probably the other position you want someone for. Needs to be combative, read the game well, have a good passing range, ability to play through a high press and between the lines. Both Bakinson and Evans hit some of that but not all of it. |  |
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| Town Strikers and Midfield on 11:43 - Apr 29 with 1905 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Town Strikers and Midfield on 10:35 - Apr 29 by STYG |
But it's all because of the LWB.
PMSL. |
Good effort selectively ignoring the part about Midfield and LWB being sorted.
So no not just LWB | |
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| Town Strikers and Midfield on 11:45 - Apr 29 with 1898 views | Ewan_Oozami |
If I was KMcK, I'd be thinking deeply about this, but as I am not, and I don't do Manager cosplay, it's not really consuming my waking hours at the moment.... |  |
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| Town Strikers and Midfield on 11:45 - Apr 29 with 1899 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Town Strikers and Midfield on 10:31 - Apr 29 by hype313 |
Not sure how many times it has to be said, but McKenna has specifically talked about his requirements from a striker, and none of Norwood, Bonne or Pigott fit his description. |
Can you share the link, I know he spoke of his preference in regards to outfield players, but can't remember seeing him speak specifically of strikers.. | |
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| Town Strikers and Midfield on 11:49 - Apr 29 with 1878 views | hype313 |
| Town Strikers and Midfield on 11:45 - Apr 29 by FrimleyBlue |
Can you share the link, I know he spoke of his preference in regards to outfield players, but can't remember seeing him speak specifically of strikers.. |
What part of bringing Jackson in from the cold and having him as 1st choice over the others doesn't highlight his preference? | |
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| I think Piggot suits our style, his confidence is just shot on 11:50 - Apr 29 with 1878 views | unstableblue |
I’m sure McKenna has seen the quality of his hold up and lay off play…. It’s just it’s coming off 2 times out of 10 at the movement!! |  |
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| Town Strikers and Midfield on 11:53 - Apr 29 with 1866 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Town Strikers and Midfield on 11:49 - Apr 29 by hype313 |
What part of bringing Jackson in from the cold and having him as 1st choice over the others doesn't highlight his preference? |
Oh ok, so he hasn't spoken about it?
I agree the preference appears to be there, but that said, is a Jackson type striker ALL you need to get out of this level? [Post edited 29 Apr 2022 11:54]
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| Town Strikers and Midfield on 11:56 - Apr 29 with 1850 views | hype313 |
| Town Strikers and Midfield on 11:53 - Apr 29 by FrimleyBlue |
Oh ok, so he hasn't spoken about it?
I agree the preference appears to be there, but that said, is a Jackson type striker ALL you need to get out of this level? [Post edited 29 Apr 2022 11:54]
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I don't think Jackson is the striker we need to get out of this division, he will be utilised sporadically i.e to come on stretch defenses, but his profile is what McKenna will be wanting, but with more goals. | |
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| Town Strikers and Midfield on 08:16 - Apr 30 with 1353 views | quad |
| Town Strikers and Midfield on 11:56 - Apr 29 by hype313 |
I don't think Jackson is the striker we need to get out of this division, he will be utilised sporadically i.e to come on stretch defenses, but his profile is what McKenna will be wanting, but with more goals. |
So which potential strikers could McKenna go for? Could Jonson Clarke-Harris be a potential target and does his style fit the profile? And is there any realistic chance of getting him? | | | |
| Town Strikers and Midfield on 09:09 - Apr 30 with 1250 views | Simonds92 |
We need a no.10 who will support the striker, not play their football 50 yards from goal. Either that or we change our formstion to 2 up top which is my preference. I cant really see you lose much defensively in swapping one of the 10s for a striker. Effectively the problem has been getting support in and around our strikers, it's currently a thankless task to play that role. Personally i would also like a box to box midfielder as well to bring Morsy deeper. If Morsy is the more advanced one we need someone with Evans passing ability but with more athleticism. Obviously we also need a LWB. | | | |
| Town Strikers and Midfield on 10:04 - Apr 30 with 1172 views | quad |
| Town Strikers and Midfield on 09:09 - Apr 30 by Simonds92 |
We need a no.10 who will support the striker, not play their football 50 yards from goal. Either that or we change our formstion to 2 up top which is my preference. I cant really see you lose much defensively in swapping one of the 10s for a striker. Effectively the problem has been getting support in and around our strikers, it's currently a thankless task to play that role. Personally i would also like a box to box midfielder as well to bring Morsy deeper. If Morsy is the more advanced one we need someone with Evans passing ability but with more athleticism. Obviously we also need a LWB. |
I agree with what you're saying but I just don't see that there are a huge amount of players available to fill the roles better than what we have/had.
Scott Fraser was supposed to be the best 10 in the division and failed, Pigott scored 20+ goals for Wimbledon and has been terrible for us, Will Keane was mediocre here but now smashing it at Wigan, Bonne has proved that he can score goals earlier in the season but that's all gone wrong too.
If we got rid of Bonne and Piggott, then brought in strikers such as Alfie May or Cole Stockton are we not just trading like for like? Are players like Celina, Aluko and Chaplin guilty of not giving the strikers enough service? A lot of good stuff has been said about Aluko but his stats are atrocious.
That's why I asked about Clarke-Harris. If he is similar style to Jackson then he would be a clear upgrade on him in terms of goals and overall ability? Scott Twine might also be a clear upgrade on what he have already.
Other than that I'm struggling to see who we can bring here who wouldn't be seen as a risk. Unless McKenna's got a few gems lined up from Man U's youngsters, but then that would be a gamble too. | | | |
| Town Strikers and Midfield on 11:15 - Apr 30 with 1080 views | Simonds92 |
| Town Strikers and Midfield on 10:04 - Apr 30 by quad |
I agree with what you're saying but I just don't see that there are a huge amount of players available to fill the roles better than what we have/had.
Scott Fraser was supposed to be the best 10 in the division and failed, Pigott scored 20+ goals for Wimbledon and has been terrible for us, Will Keane was mediocre here but now smashing it at Wigan, Bonne has proved that he can score goals earlier in the season but that's all gone wrong too.
If we got rid of Bonne and Piggott, then brought in strikers such as Alfie May or Cole Stockton are we not just trading like for like? Are players like Celina, Aluko and Chaplin guilty of not giving the strikers enough service? A lot of good stuff has been said about Aluko but his stats are atrocious.
That's why I asked about Clarke-Harris. If he is similar style to Jackson then he would be a clear upgrade on him in terms of goals and overall ability? Scott Twine might also be a clear upgrade on what he have already.
Other than that I'm struggling to see who we can bring here who wouldn't be seen as a risk. Unless McKenna's got a few gems lined up from Man U's youngsters, but then that would be a gamble too. |
Those 2 you have mentioned there are the 2 perfect signings, especially Twine because he is the kind of player im talking about when i say a no.10 who plays close to the striker. Unfortunately i don't think we can get him now. Bonne could score goals at this level if he's given the support from someone like Twine. For all the fanfare around them i don't think Celina or Aluko have been anywhere near effective enough because they play too far from goal. I like them as footballers but we could sign a player with less ability who is a lot more effective. | | | |
| Town Strikers and Midfield on 11:35 - Apr 30 with 1033 views | quad |
| Town Strikers and Midfield on 11:15 - Apr 30 by Simonds92 |
Those 2 you have mentioned there are the 2 perfect signings, especially Twine because he is the kind of player im talking about when i say a no.10 who plays close to the striker. Unfortunately i don't think we can get him now. Bonne could score goals at this level if he's given the support from someone like Twine. For all the fanfare around them i don't think Celina or Aluko have been anywhere near effective enough because they play too far from goal. I like them as footballers but we could sign a player with less ability who is a lot more effective. |
Thanks for the reply, appreciate it. I think you've gpt it spot on as to why we're not creating enough or scoring enough.
It's way too easy to put all the blame on the strikers. But Bonne, Pigott and Norwood aren't bad players. You could get rid of Bonne and sign Cole Stockton for example but it would have the same end result if he's not getting any supply.
Mathie has been on the radio saying that Norwood had been making some decent runs but other players weren't feeding the balls through the channels to him so his movement was wasted. | | | |
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