| Simpson situation 12:45 - Jul 25 with 8305 views | ringwoodblue |
Surprisingly still no news on Simpson departing and no sign of a U-turn from McKenna to give him a go in our first team.
Is he really going to spend yet another season languishing in our U23s? Surely a L2 or lower L1 side could give him an opportunity in their first team? |  |
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| Simpson situation on 11:40 - Jul 27 with 1111 views | XYZ |
| Simpson situation on 07:51 - Jul 27 by Veggie |
Do you not think they might know the rules? |
Why did Stoke fail to sign Celina? |  | | |
| Simpson situation on 11:54 - Jul 27 with 1062 views | BondiBlue |
| Simpson situation on 19:44 - Jul 25 by PhilTWTD |
I'm sure it won't come to that but I don't see him playing games with any side unless there's a big change. |
If it comes to that and I were Simpson, I'd be sacking my agent. | |
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| Simpson situation on 12:03 - Jul 27 with 1031 views | BondiBlue |
| Simpson situation on 08:03 - Jul 27 by chicoazul |
Very strange how there was relatively little rancour and chat about attitude etc when Gibbs went to Norwich. Very strange indeed. I wonder why? What could possibly be different? |
I've occasionally felt like asking similar questions on here but then decided to give the benefit of the doubt. The replies that pretend not to know what you're getting at make me wonder if the benefit of the doubt is deserved in all cases though. | |
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| Simpson situation on 14:03 - Jul 27 with 931 views | Churchman |
| Simpson situation on 10:56 - Jul 27 by Big_Jase |
If I heard the same opinion been given in the outside world, then yes I would use similar words.
It’s not his opinion but they way he is wording it and telling a player to “rot in the reserves” no one on here knows the full story, and personally I am not comfortable with people wanting young players careers to be over. It comes across as bitter.
It would appear theres elements of the club failing Simpson. Perhaps he should be training better etc, but like the Gibbs situation, it doesn’t look like we as a club have handled this very well at all. |
Wow, if you speak to people like that you must either be a very big bloke or have sported a good few bruises over the years.
What elements are there of ‘the club failing Simpson’ exactly? Has he been discriminated in any way compared with his peers? Should he be treated as special because he scored a few goals on loan in L2? Should he be given what he wants because he’s kicking up a fuss?
Personally, I don’t think we should be bending over backwards for any individual. As long as people are treated fairly, they should conform and work hard to progress their careers, especially at his age, or else they move on when their contract expires - or when they are sold.
It’s as simple as that. Nobody knows what has passed between him, his agent and the club, but on the face of it, how else should the club have handled it? Tell a player in the team last season they’re in the stiffs because a returned loanee is demanding a game? Give him a big pay rise and tell his peers ‘sorry, his got a better agent than you’?
As for wanting a young player’s career over, has anyone said that? Not caring what happens to a player once they move on is not the same as wanting a player’s career over in my view. [Post edited 27 Jul 2022 16:21]
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| Simpson situation on 14:26 - Jul 27 with 889 views | Vic |
| Simpson situation on 09:40 - Jul 27 by chicoazul |
Not like there is a long storied history of that kind of thing on TWTD and at FPR for the last 40 years is there. |
I’ve been on here for a fair old while but have to confess I have no idea what you’re referring to Chico. Help me out please! |  |
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| Simpson situation on 14:30 - Jul 27 with 886 views | PhilTWTD |
| Simpson situation on 11:54 - Jul 27 by BondiBlue |
If it comes to that and I were Simpson, I'd be sacking my agent. |
Any side at Town I meant in case that wasn't clear. Not sure he's done too much wrong, to be honest. |  | | |
| Simpson situation on 17:43 - Jul 27 with 724 views | Westcountryblue |
| Simpson situation on 14:30 - Jul 27 by PhilTWTD |
Any side at Town I meant in case that wasn't clear. Not sure he's done too much wrong, to be honest. |
Asked to be transfer listed...? | | | |
| Simpson situation on 17:53 - Jul 27 with 702 views | southnorfolkblue |
| Simpson situation on 00:35 - Jul 27 by XYZ |
Interesting employment law point here - could a "restraint of trade" type argument arise.
I suspect that football (or any professional sports) teams have an implied obligation not to damage their employee's future prospects ... |
As a general rule there is no obligation upon an Employer to provide work, unless the employee needs the work to either maintain his skills or public profile.
I suspect that as long as they are offering him the opportunity to train, there would be no issue. I can’t see any basis on which the Club can be forced to offer him game time | |
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| Simpson situation on 19:03 - Jul 27 with 646 views | PhilTWTD |
| Simpson situation on 17:43 - Jul 27 by Westcountryblue |
Asked to be transfer listed...? |
I think that's fair enough if the club's not offered a contract which is seen as realistic and hasn't been up for neotiating. What else is a player supposed to do in that circumstance? | | | |
| Simpson situation on 19:06 - Jul 27 with 633 views | PhilTWTD |
| Simpson situation on 09:29 - Jul 27 by FoghornGleghorn |
Well, let's see. Gibbs, by all accounts of the situation, was asking a very small amount more than we were willing to offer, his contract was running down, he had an offer from elsewhere, and it's worked out moderately well for him.
Simpson was in the midst of a successful loan spell, and by all accounts of the situation, irrespective of whether or not he might have wanted to sign it, was refusing to even enter into a discussion with his employer about a contract extension. At the same time, it's reported, his agent was attempting to work out a deal with the club with which he was on loan. Outright unprofessional in both instances, and it's worked out terribly for him, when showing a modicum of respect for the club that's developed him might have been all it took.
Other differences, hmm...Gibbs a defender, Simpson a striker? There's obviously also what you're hinting at, but we both know you're not doing that from any position of sincerity. |
That's not true, there were discussions about a new deal but the club and player were well apart. I don't think a permanent move to Swindon was every under discussion. Situation is very similar to the one with Gibbs. | | | |
| Simpson situation on 19:10 - Jul 27 with 620 views | PhilTWTD |
| Simpson situation on 09:33 - Jul 27 by FoghornGleghorn |
Takeover was April, he went in July - this might be a rare instance of Evans being in the clear. It was reported the difference in wage at issue was very small, but perhaps there were bigger fish to fry. |
Think his situation was mismanaged before the takeover, think there was the expectation he'd sign and it allowed other clubs to come in for him. The takeover happened and his situation wasn't revisited until literally a couple of days before his contract was up. Difficult to lay too much blame on the new ownership as there were obviously a lot of other bigger matters to attend to.
Re Simpson, a contract should have been offered before he went to Swindon or when it became clear he was making an impact rather than in January when his expectations had unsurprisingly increased. | | | |
| Simpson situation on 19:12 - Jul 27 with 615 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Simpson situation on 19:03 - Jul 27 by PhilTWTD |
I think that's fair enough if the club's not offered a contract which is seen as realistic and hasn't been up for neotiating. What else is a player supposed to do in that circumstance? |
For Simpson not to be involved in even under 23s football... there surely has to be more at play here other than just a player asking to move on. Downes even bounced between the 2 teams and he asked to leave. |  |
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| Simpson situation on 19:41 - Jul 27 with 568 views | PhilTWTD |
| Simpson situation on 13:20 - Jul 25 by ArnieM |
It’s about players being PROFESSIONAL. Fine to want a move, but be bloody professional. I understand his agent was trying to negotiate a deal with Swindon whilst he was on loan there . It’s Unprofessional. The club has spent a lot of money getting player to the level that they are and They deserve to get a return on that investment. As soon as players don’t get what they want, they throw their toys out of the pram and down tools. It’s unprofessional. They’d soon be telling all and sundry that they are a professional footballer. Well f lucking act like one then ! [Post edited 25 Jul 2022 13:22]
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I don't think the Swindon thing is true. I don't think TS had any intention of joining Swindon permanently. | | | |
| Simpson situation on 19:48 - Jul 27 with 531 views | Veggie |
| Simpson situation on 19:41 - Jul 27 by PhilTWTD |
I don't think the Swindon thing is true. I don't think TS had any intention of joining Swindon permanently. |
So what was/is his intention Phil? Was there another club lined up to take him? Why haven’t they come in and tried to buy him? It all seems very strange. |  | | |
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