| Felixstowe strike not averted then. 08:32 - Aug 21 with 6942 views | Lord_Lucan |
8 day strike from today
This is a big, big deal.
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| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 11:19 - Aug 22 with 1471 views | buoyant |
| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 10:35 - Aug 22 by BlueForYou |
I read this morning that the average salary for dock workers at Felixstowe is £43000. That seems very good to me. |
Where does that number come from and who is it related to?
An operative on the docks these days are paid £10.67/h and Tug Drivers £12.47. Administrators £22,800/ann
It's not the cash bucket it was years ago and new starters have to wait years before going on to the 4 on 4 off terms.
They are happy to pay out to shareholders from their bumper profits so why not the workers? |  |
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| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 11:43 - Aug 22 with 1418 views | Daninthecampo |
| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 00:05 - Aug 22 by Lord_Lucan |
Do you know how much you were, and now are paying per kw? |
It did go up with Ukraine but there is now a nationwide price cap of €40 /MWH as we generate nearly all our own with the rest coming over from Africa pipeline. So Ukraine is no longer affecting us |  | | |
| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 11:51 - Aug 22 with 1397 views | Kievthegreat |
| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 10:35 - Aug 22 by BlueForYou |
I read this morning that the average salary for dock workers at Felixstowe is £43000. That seems very good to me. |
Always beware these stats getting put out in the media. When there were train strikes earlier on, the government loved to talk about Drivers salaries, even when they weren't part of the union that was striking that day.
It's a rather transparent attempt at painting strikers as greedy and to encourage envy. They always like to compare to Nurses, oblivious that the issue isn't that train drivers, dockworkers, etc... are paid to much, but that Nurses are paid to little. |  | | |
| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 11:54 - Aug 22 with 1369 views | yesjohn99 |
| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 10:35 - Aug 22 by BlueForYou |
I read this morning that the average salary for dock workers at Felixstowe is £43000. That seems very good to me. |
Can only assume you was in the fiction department of your local library? | | | |
| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 11:58 - Aug 22 with 1344 views | Kievthegreat |
| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 11:19 - Aug 22 by buoyant |
Where does that number come from and who is it related to?
An operative on the docks these days are paid £10.67/h and Tug Drivers £12.47. Administrators £22,800/ann
It's not the cash bucket it was years ago and new starters have to wait years before going on to the 4 on 4 off terms.
They are happy to pay out to shareholders from their bumper profits so why not the workers? |
Worth noting that the company that owns Felixstowe pays Failing Grayling £100k a year to be a part time consultant. I wonder if he'll negotiate a pay rise? | | | |
| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 12:09 - Aug 22 with 1296 views | buoyant |
| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 11:58 - Aug 22 by Kievthegreat |
Worth noting that the company that owns Felixstowe pays Failing Grayling £100k a year to be a part time consultant. I wonder if he'll negotiate a pay rise? |
Indeed, sanctioned by no less than Lord Pickles the Hutt. | |
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| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 13:26 - Aug 22 with 1195 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 11:51 - Aug 22 by Kievthegreat |
Always beware these stats getting put out in the media. When there were train strikes earlier on, the government loved to talk about Drivers salaries, even when they weren't part of the union that was striking that day.
It's a rather transparent attempt at painting strikers as greedy and to encourage envy. They always like to compare to Nurses, oblivious that the issue isn't that train drivers, dockworkers, etc... are paid to much, but that Nurses are paid to little. |
Indeed - median wage would likely be much more reflective. Often average wages are skewed by huge managerial and executive wages.
Funnily enough MP’s get huge % rises (as well as feeding in the trough of expenses to pay for everything) and then begrudge anyone else wanting a rise. | | | |
| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 14:09 - Aug 22 with 1135 views | HARRY10 |
| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 10:35 - Aug 22 by BlueForYou |
I read this morning that the average salary for dock workers at Felixstowe is £43000. That seems very good to me. |
Carried by only ONE paper, Express - whose own workers are now on strike.
What the above simpleton doesn't do (he is an Express reader) is to ask what is the mean wage. Is £43,000 the basic wage of what is termed a docker - or is it what is earned through overtime and bonuses ?
If it is the 'average' then it must include higher paid employees, which would suggest management. They are not taking industrial action.
Sadly, as with brexit, there are always those who will doff their cap, bleat out 'master knows best' and regurgitate misinformation to try and defend their betters.
We can only assume they are, in this case, shareholders in the companies. Recipients of dividends _ £66m, last year. Otherwise, why would you be fighting against yourself ? | | | |
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| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 14:11 - Aug 22 with 1138 views | GeoffSentence |
Local dockers taking the search for a 20 goal a season striker literally.
Hundreds of strikers there, now just got to find the one who can pop it in the back of the net regularly. |  |
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| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 16:01 - Aug 22 with 1050 views | BlueForYou |
| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 11:54 - Aug 22 by yesjohn99 |
Can only assume you was in the fiction department of your local library? |
It was in an article on the BBC website business section actually. Stated by a Port spokesman. Can't do a link from it using my phone.
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| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 16:20 - Aug 22 with 1009 views | HARRY10 |
| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 16:01 - Aug 22 by BlueForYou |
It was in an article on the BBC website business section actually. Stated by a Port spokesman. Can't do a link from it using my phone.
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Here is the link................with no such figure
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-62582931
though it does have
" "Felixstowe docks is enormously profitable. The latest figures show that in 2020 it made £61m in profits. Its parent company, CK Hutchison Holding Ltd, is so wealthy that, in the same year, it handed out £99m to its shareholders. " | | | |
| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 16:54 - Aug 22 with 947 views | Pinewoodblue |
It is worth remembering that inflation figures are based on what you pay for goods and services. They don’t take into account government ‘cost of living’ handouts |  |
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| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 17:03 - Aug 22 with 897 views | HARRY10 |
| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 16:54 - Aug 22 by Pinewoodblue |
It is worth remembering that inflation figures are based on what you pay for goods and services. They don’t take into account government ‘cost of living’ handouts |
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| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 17:49 - Aug 22 with 848 views | mutters |
| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 13:26 - Aug 22 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Indeed - median wage would likely be much more reflective. Often average wages are skewed by huge managerial and executive wages.
Funnily enough MP’s get huge % rises (as well as feeding in the trough of expenses to pay for everything) and then begrudge anyone else wanting a rise. |
An independent body decides on the MPs payrise these days, so it's out of their hands.
I might be wrong but since it went independent MPs have actually got higher rises on average than they used to when they decided it themselves. |  |
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| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 19:48 - Aug 22 with 771 views | longtimefan |
| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 16:20 - Aug 22 by HARRY10 |
Here is the link................with no such figure
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-62582931
though it does have
" "Felixstowe docks is enormously profitable. The latest figures show that in 2020 it made £61m in profits. Its parent company, CK Hutchison Holding Ltd, is so wealthy that, in the same year, it handed out £99m to its shareholders. " |
The £43k figure was definitely mentioned on the Today programme on R4 this morning. Presumably available on BBC Sounds. | | | |
| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 19:52 - Aug 22 with 769 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 06:33 - Aug 22 by BanksterDebtSlave |
In relation to funding, I read that academies are considering 3 or 4 day weeks due to increased energy costs. |
Not heard anything about that. All high schools in Suffolk that I am aware of are academies (or free schools). I suspect this is one or two trusts considering it currently. |  |
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| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 19:57 - Aug 22 with 756 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 08:19 - Aug 22 by Pinewoodblue |
Unite are spoiling for a fight and have targeted key sectors. Feel sorry for their members at Felixstowe who are being used as pawns. They were asked to vote on strike action without being given an opportunity to even consider the offer made.
Apart from part of the offer being a one off payment the offer isn’t unreasonable. Lower earners getting a higher offer.
The biggest problem is Sunak’s decision to freeze tax allowances. |
The issue with lower earners getting higher pay rises (which has been happening for quite a while now in education), is that it attracts people to train and come into the profession but does the opposite for retention. Currently there is a shortage of teachers that is likely to become chronic. When I first started, job vacancies usually interviewed around 6 candidates. Now you are lucky if you have more than 1 applicant. If they are not suitable, the vacancy remains unfilled. There are not sufficient supply teachers available. | |
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| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 20:03 - Aug 22 with 740 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 17:49 - Aug 22 by mutters |
An independent body decides on the MPs payrise these days, so it's out of their hands.
I might be wrong but since it went independent MPs have actually got higher rises on average than they used to when they decided it themselves. |
The odd thing I find is that when all other public service review bodies make their recommendations, the Government says they cannot afford that and sends them away to revise their advice downwards (or at least used to). I have never heard of them doing that for themselves. They simply accept the recommendation. | |
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| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 20:23 - Aug 22 with 703 views | HARRY10 |
| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 19:48 - Aug 22 by longtimefan |
The £43k figure was definitely mentioned on the Today programme on R4 this morning. Presumably available on BBC Sounds. |
Nope, just painstakingly listened, every two mins, not even a mention of the strike either.
And it is rather a bizarre rightie thought. As the company made £61m profit last year are we to assume it will not be raising charges in line with inflation, or it's increased costs.
Again the point is why do righties, who we have to presume a dependent upon a wage, fees, contracts etc resent others in a similar position from trying to stop their wages from being eroded.
Some real weird phycological flaw. | | | |
| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 21:16 - Aug 22 with 666 views | longtimefan |
| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 20:23 - Aug 22 by HARRY10 |
Nope, just painstakingly listened, every two mins, not even a mention of the strike either.
And it is rather a bizarre rightie thought. As the company made £61m profit last year are we to assume it will not be raising charges in line with inflation, or it's increased costs.
Again the point is why do righties, who we have to presume a dependent upon a wage, fees, contracts etc resent others in a similar position from trying to stop their wages from being eroded.
Some real weird phycological flaw. |
Sorry, got my days mixed up. It was yesterday morning on R4 during Broadcasting House. | | | |
| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 21:17 - Aug 22 with 665 views | I_LOVE_GOLLOB |
| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 10:35 - Aug 22 by BlueForYou |
I read this morning that the average salary for dock workers at Felixstowe is £43000. That seems very good to me. |
Probably 20% off that. However, 35k then a 7% increase isn't to be coughed at.
Some say it's the conditions they have to work under (surely they knew that when they signed up) and others money. One does hope they get it sorted quick as it's having an impact right across the Transport industry. | |
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| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 21:23 - Aug 22 with 656 views | mutters |
| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 20:03 - Aug 22 by Nthsuffolkblue |
The odd thing I find is that when all other public service review bodies make their recommendations, the Government says they cannot afford that and sends them away to revise their advice downwards (or at least used to). I have never heard of them doing that for themselves. They simply accept the recommendation. |
Randomly they can't reject or refuse the payrise either. So on that basis they may not be able to send it back for review.
They could of course donate the extra to charity, which some have done
"The Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority (IPSA), responsible for setting MPs pay, says members have ‘no mechanism by which they can refuse to receive’ the extra cash"
Bonkers | |
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| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 21:27 - Aug 22 with 701 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 21:23 - Aug 22 by mutters |
Randomly they can't reject or refuse the payrise either. So on that basis they may not be able to send it back for review.
They could of course donate the extra to charity, which some have done
"The Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority (IPSA), responsible for setting MPs pay, says members have ‘no mechanism by which they can refuse to receive’ the extra cash"
Bonkers |
One way or another it is a system set up by parliament.
There should be a review of public sector pay and then, once set, it should all (including MP's salaries) be subject to the same percentage raise save for exceptional circumstances where one deserves a specific review. Plus there should be a guarantee that all public service pay rises are fully funded from the treasury. | |
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| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 21:31 - Aug 22 with 686 views | mutters |
| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 21:27 - Aug 22 by Nthsuffolkblue |
One way or another it is a system set up by parliament.
There should be a review of public sector pay and then, once set, it should all (including MP's salaries) be subject to the same percentage raise save for exceptional circumstances where one deserves a specific review. Plus there should be a guarantee that all public service pay rises are fully funded from the treasury. |
Steady on, that's almost a sensible approach. That's not going to fly with this current government | |
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| Felixstowe strike not averted then. on 21:32 - Aug 22 with 678 views | BlueForYou |
This was the articlre I read this morning.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62440005
Clearly states, "The port said workers involved in the dispute earned an average of £43,000 a year."
All I'll say is that I've been a skilled trade in construction for many years & I've never earned that much & have had to endure some pretty unpleasant working environments over the years! To turn down a 7% increase seems very selfish. [Post edited 22 Aug 2022 21:46]
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