| Thanks....now **** off on 09:44 - Aug 24 with 738 views | bluelagos |
| Thanks....now **** off on 20:27 - Aug 23 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
I’m sure the people that holiday in Dubai will see no issue with this.
It should be boycotted by teams but money wins. See also AJ in Saudi Arabia. |
See your sentiment. But Dubai is part of the UAE which is a separate country to Qatar. |  |
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| Thanks....now **** off on 11:00 - Aug 24 with 682 views | J2BLUE |
| Thanks....now **** off on 08:32 - Aug 24 by Deano69 |
Interesting what companies are happy to attach their brand to this. Risky I would have said. |
Surely most brans have multi tournament deals and will just say it was all in place before anything was announced? |  |
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| Thanks....now **** off on 11:18 - Aug 24 with 669 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Thanks....now **** off on 18:43 - Aug 23 by Churchman |
It is sickening. I can’t get rid of the image of that fat odious oily smug bag of gas Blatter’s smile as Qatar’s name was drawn out. Ludicrous does not even cover it.
I gather he and snake oil salesman Platini have been cleared of any wrongdoing, but I suspect anyone sharing a brain cell and beyond knows that decision was about as bent as it gets. Why on earth hold it there? Just one reason and it isn’t taking the game to new places.
As for how they treat their workers, now there’s a shock. I’m a bit surprised they haven’t dragged them to chop square for the Saturday entertainment. Let’s face it if Newcastles benign, beloved owners can get through 81 on a Saturday, I’m sure Qatar can hack through a measly 60 well before lunch.
Will I watch the World Cup? I don’t intend to but if I’m honest, curiosity will probably encourage me to weaken and watch England.
Edit: Just read the Guardian article posted. I won’t be watching it. [Post edited 23 Aug 2022 19:24]
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And yet people will continue to watch and link news from Al Jazeera. |  |
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| Thanks....now **** off on 11:22 - Aug 24 with 664 views | Steve_M |
| Thanks....now **** off on 09:26 - Aug 24 by MattinLondon |
Yemen only have themselves to blame for the wests apathy towards them. If they had the decency to be white, have a Christian heritage and ideally based in Europe then Saudi Arabia would be heavily boycotted. Lazy on their part to take the easy way out. |
Yemen is a proxy war between Iran and Saudi Arabia. The Yemeni people matter to neither of them. |  |
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| Thanks....now **** off on 11:23 - Aug 24 with 654 views | Darth_Koont |
| Thanks....now **** off on 11:18 - Aug 24 by GlasgowBlue |
And yet people will continue to watch and link news from Al Jazeera. |
And yet people still continue to watch and link news from the BBC despite it tacitly supporting the UK's strategic partnerships with awful Saudi and Israeli regimes.
Strange you're not at all exercised about that first and foremost. Or is it pro-Palestinian voices that you most need to discredit? |  |
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| Thanks....now **** off on 11:26 - Aug 24 with 654 views | Steve_M |
I will watch it but with some hesitation, I think there will be a lot of coverage of the wider picture in Qatar and the Gulf which won't reflect well on the Qatari government.
I went out thereon a work trip in 2014, not long after the Sunday Times had exposed 'irregularities' in the bidding process. The people I met really didn't like that article, obviously I had to be polite about it but I thought it was quite telling. The Qataris want to see themselves as better - more efficient, more ethical - than the Saudis so I think the large amount of criticism that comes their way throughout this year offsets many of the gains from the World Cup. | |
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| Thanks....now **** off on 11:27 - Aug 24 with 651 views | clive_baker |
| Thanks....now **** off on 11:23 - Aug 24 by Darth_Koont |
And yet people still continue to watch and link news from the BBC despite it tacitly supporting the UK's strategic partnerships with awful Saudi and Israeli regimes.
Strange you're not at all exercised about that first and foremost. Or is it pro-Palestinian voices that you most need to discredit? |
At least Scotland did the moral thing and bowed out early again. |  |
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| Thanks....now **** off on 11:37 - Aug 24 with 630 views | Darth_Koont |
| Thanks....now **** off on 11:27 - Aug 24 by clive_baker |
At least Scotland did the moral thing and bowed out early again. |
Haha! Indeed. | |
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| Thanks....now **** off on 11:42 - Aug 24 with 607 views | Darth_Koont |
| Thanks....now **** off on 11:22 - Aug 24 by Steve_M |
Yemen is a proxy war between Iran and Saudi Arabia. The Yemeni people matter to neither of them. |
Why are the UK involved in supporting the Saudis? | |
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| Thanks....now **** off on 11:51 - Aug 24 with 592 views | DJR |
| Thanks....now **** off on 11:22 - Aug 24 by Steve_M |
Yemen is a proxy war between Iran and Saudi Arabia. The Yemeni people matter to neither of them. |
I think you mean a proxy war between Iran, on the one hand, and Saudi Arabia and the West, on the other. As well as the UK providing military advice to the Saudi-led coalition, including on bombing targets and tactics, over half of Saudi Arabia’s combat aircraft used for the bombing raids are UK-supplied. UK-made equipment used include Tphoon and Tornado aircraft, Paveway bombs, and Brimstone and Stormshadow missiles. [Post edited 24 Aug 2022 11:52]
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| Thanks....now **** off on 11:54 - Aug 24 with 588 views | DJR |
| Thanks....now **** off on 11:27 - Aug 24 by clive_baker |
At least Scotland did the moral thing and bowed out early again. |
I think you'll find we have been boycotting the World Cup since 1998! | | | |
| Thanks....now **** off on 12:14 - Aug 24 with 566 views | clive_baker |
| Thanks....now **** off on 11:54 - Aug 24 by DJR |
I think you'll find we have been boycotting the World Cup since 1998! |
Great one to choose to participate in though to be fair. Jim Leighton's vaselined eyebrows. A certain Paul Lambert vs. Rivaldo.
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| Thanks....now **** off on 12:58 - Aug 24 with 537 views | ZXBlue |
| Thanks....now **** off on 11:23 - Aug 24 by Darth_Koont |
And yet people still continue to watch and link news from the BBC despite it tacitly supporting the UK's strategic partnerships with awful Saudi and Israeli regimes.
Strange you're not at all exercised about that first and foremost. Or is it pro-Palestinian voices that you most need to discredit? |
I'd love some clear examples of the bbc supporting those regimes. |  | | |
| Thanks....now **** off on 13:00 - Aug 24 with 532 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Thanks....now **** off on 12:58 - Aug 24 by ZXBlue |
I'd love some clear examples of the bbc supporting those regimes. |
Tell me Koonters isn't defending Qatari state owned media on a thread about Qatari state human rights abuses?
I know he has sunk low but surely even he wouldn't sink that low. | |
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| Thanks....now **** off on 13:15 - Aug 24 with 513 views | DJR |
| Thanks....now **** off on 12:58 - Aug 24 by ZXBlue |
I'd love some clear examples of the bbc supporting those regimes. |
Support can take many forms, including lack of reporting. Following on from a recent reference to Orwell on another thread, the following is a fairly perceptive passage from him on this type of thing.
"Unpopular ideas can be silenced, and inconvenient facts kept dark, without the need for any official ban. Anyone who has lived long in a foreign country will know of instances of sensational items of news–things which on their own merits would get the big headlines–being kept right out of the British press, not because the Government intervened but because of a general tacit agreement that ‘it wouldn’t do’ to mention that particular fact. So far as the daily newspapers go, this is easy to understand. The British press is extremely centralised, and most of it is owned by wealthy men who have every motive to be dishonest on certain important topics. But the same kind of veiled censorship also operates in books and periodicals, as well as in plays, films and radio. At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed that all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to say this, that or the other, but it is ‘not done’ to say it, just as in mid-Victorian times it was ‘not done’ to mention trousers in the presence of a lady. Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with surprising effectiveness. A genuinely unfashionable opinion is almost never given a fair hearing, either in the popular press or in the highbrow periodicals." [Post edited 24 Aug 2022 13:24]
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| Thanks....now **** off on 13:17 - Aug 24 with 499 views | Darth_Koont |
| Thanks....now **** off on 12:58 - Aug 24 by ZXBlue |
I'd love some clear examples of the bbc supporting those regimes. |
I said tacit.
They’re not even covering it, are they? | |
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| Thanks....now **** off on 13:22 - Aug 24 with 489 views | Darth_Koont |
| Thanks....now **** off on 13:00 - Aug 24 by GlasgowBlue |
Tell me Koonters isn't defending Qatari state owned media on a thread about Qatari state human rights abuses?
I know he has sunk low but surely even he wouldn't sink that low. |
I would never defend Qatar on human rights or their treatment of workers – they’re awful.
But there’s a massive hypocrisy and double standards about attacking Qatar and then Al Jazeera specifically.
Of course, that’s your whole thing. I get that. | |
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| Thanks....now **** off on 18:11 - Aug 24 with 341 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Thanks....now **** off on 09:44 - Aug 24 by bluelagos |
See your sentiment. But Dubai is part of the UAE which is a separate country to Qatar. |
I know, was just making the point that if people are cool with their hotel being knocked up by slaves in Dubai, then I’m sure a slave built sports stadium in Qatar is unlikely to bother them. | | | |
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