Truss’s cabinet apparently 22:00 - Sep 3 with 6464 views | ElderGrizzly | With Badenoch as Education secretary and Braverman as Home Secretary Feck me… |  | | |  |
Truss’s cabinet apparently on 17:17 - Sep 4 with 1086 views | XYZ |
Truss’s cabinet apparently on 17:06 - Sep 4 by BanksterDebtSlave | Stokie gave this drivel an uppie.....now I am wetting myself! |
Here he is ... the man who positively quotes an outlier opinion poll that looked less bad for the tories .... The opposition to the opposition. |  | |  |
Truss’s cabinet apparently on 17:24 - Sep 4 with 1044 views | jaykay |
Truss’s cabinet apparently on 03:43 - Sep 4 by Lord_Lucan | Not sure what you mean about Cred. I’m sort of Tory leaning in a way but haven’t voted for them for quite some time, in fact I didn’t vote for anyone last time. I quite like the much maligned and misunderstood Boris because just like me he has many flaws. I am a man with many flaws so I get it. Thing is - I didn’t vote for him as I am a remain sort of person. Looking back I can’t remember the last time I voted for anyone to be honest, I usually just draw a big penis on the ballet paper and and write some offensive words. The ballet paper by the way is logged, it isn’t secret no matter what the man says - we are all being tracked. I don’t think I voted for Cameron. I think I might have voted for Blair 1 but I didn’t vote for Blair 2 - and I never admitted to any of it anyway. In fact I’m not sure to be honest. wouldn’t have voted for Howard but may have voted for IDS, I can’t really remember. I don’t think I voted for Hague even though now I now think he’s a good egg. What put me off was his lying about his drinking capabilities, he also annoyed me when he was on that slide thing in America with a baseball cap. Quite frankly I can’t remember much, in fact some of the people I have mentioned might have never even been in a general election. You’re picking on the wrong guy, I just want to get on with my life and I care little of what people tjhink. but I am presently in a gay club but being ignored and not appreciated - although some bloke called Harold keeps hanging around. The good news is a Gin and Tonic is only £8 but they were £12 in Frank Smash ( I may have got that name wrong, it might have been something else, I thought it was called Frank Smash or even Smank Frash but as I was leaning someone said it was something else - I may report back, but them again I might forget this conversation. Harold says hi by the way. |
well you must have loved corbyn as he had so many flaws according to some on here |  |
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Truss’s cabinet apparently on 17:25 - Sep 4 with 1050 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Truss’s cabinet apparently on 17:17 - Sep 4 by XYZ | Here he is ... the man who positively quotes an outlier opinion poll that looked less bad for the tories .... The opposition to the opposition. |
Go on then explain to me how directly quoting from the article Grizzly posted can be done positively or negatively. I think you will find that it is you that ascribes value to the neutral to fit your perceptions. Actually, thinking about it the reason for quoting it if anything was the result of a negative emotional response that polling could still be so close. But you carry on doing you. |  |
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Truss’s cabinet apparently on 17:26 - Sep 4 with 1048 views | Nthsuffolkblue | A policy decision to go without an education secretary? Will she deal with it under the PM umbrella? - She has some "interesting" education policies from the leadership debate. Or is it unnecessary as the only education left will be private? Children can pick crops, drive lorries and nurse and generally fill the foreign worker shortage instead. |  |
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Truss’s cabinet apparently on 17:33 - Sep 4 with 1038 views | positivity |
Truss’s cabinet apparently on 17:25 - Sep 4 by BanksterDebtSlave | Go on then explain to me how directly quoting from the article Grizzly posted can be done positively or negatively. I think you will find that it is you that ascribes value to the neutral to fit your perceptions. Actually, thinking about it the reason for quoting it if anything was the result of a negative emotional response that polling could still be so close. But you carry on doing you. |
that's fair. *if* you have previously posted good polling results for labour that were due to a positive emotional response otherwise it smacks of taking any possible opportunity to slam labour even in a hopeful article [Post edited 4 Sep 2022 17:36]
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Truss’s cabinet apparently on 17:36 - Sep 4 with 1023 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Truss’s cabinet apparently on 17:33 - Sep 4 by positivity | that's fair. *if* you have previously posted good polling results for labour that were due to a positive emotional response otherwise it smacks of taking any possible opportunity to slam labour even in a hopeful article [Post edited 4 Sep 2022 17:36]
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But that's Harry's job. |  |
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Truss’s cabinet apparently on 17:46 - Sep 4 with 988 views | XYZ |
Truss’s cabinet apparently on 17:25 - Sep 4 by BanksterDebtSlave | Go on then explain to me how directly quoting from the article Grizzly posted can be done positively or negatively. I think you will find that it is you that ascribes value to the neutral to fit your perceptions. Actually, thinking about it the reason for quoting it if anything was the result of a negative emotional response that polling could still be so close. But you carry on doing you. |
In a thread entirely about the abilities of Truss's prospective cabinet, your first contribution is "But, Starmer ..." A tory bot would post similarly if CCHQ considered extending their twitter activity to TWTD. |  | |  |
Truss’s cabinet apparently on 17:46 - Sep 4 with 988 views | positivity |
Truss’s cabinet apparently on 17:36 - Sep 4 by BanksterDebtSlave | But that's Harry's job. |
so you only react to "negative emotional responses"? that's a shame |  |
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Truss’s cabinet apparently on 17:50 - Sep 4 with 979 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Truss’s cabinet apparently on 17:46 - Sep 4 by XYZ | In a thread entirely about the abilities of Truss's prospective cabinet, your first contribution is "But, Starmer ..." A tory bot would post similarly if CCHQ considered extending their twitter activity to TWTD. |
Sorry for not just amplifying the echo. |  |
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Truss’s cabinet apparently on 17:53 - Sep 4 with 970 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Truss’s cabinet apparently on 17:46 - Sep 4 by positivity | so you only react to "negative emotional responses"? that's a shame |
The positive ones are such a rarity in a World largely full of sh1t and promoting sh1tty values that I generally have a little cry!! Party politics though......meh!! |  |
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Truss’s cabinet apparently on 17:57 - Sep 4 with 968 views | XYZ |
Truss’s cabinet apparently on 17:50 - Sep 4 by BanksterDebtSlave | Sorry for not just amplifying the echo. |
Just seems a bit weird to jump on a thread about the possible new cabinet with a Starmer put-down. You lost; he won. Let it go. |  | |  |
Truss’s cabinet apparently on 17:59 - Sep 4 with 963 views | positivity |
Truss’s cabinet apparently on 17:53 - Sep 4 by BanksterDebtSlave | The positive ones are such a rarity in a World largely full of sh1t and promoting sh1tty values that I generally have a little cry!! Party politics though......meh!! |
odd that poor polling scores for the labour party give you a "negative emotional response", but positive ones don't do the opposite. if that's true, maybe you need testing for anhedonia, you need to enjoy the wins as well as mourn the losses |  |
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Truss’s cabinet apparently on 18:07 - Sep 4 with 947 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Truss’s cabinet apparently on 17:59 - Sep 4 by positivity | odd that poor polling scores for the labour party give you a "negative emotional response", but positive ones don't do the opposite. if that's true, maybe you need testing for anhedonia, you need to enjoy the wins as well as mourn the losses |
You do understand that it is possible to not want a Tory government but also know that the alternative is also uninspiring I hope. |  |
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Truss’s cabinet apparently on 18:08 - Sep 4 with 943 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Truss’s cabinet apparently on 17:57 - Sep 4 by XYZ | Just seems a bit weird to jump on a thread about the possible new cabinet with a Starmer put-down. You lost; he won. Let it go. |
Responding to posted links.....where will it end. This way madness lies. |  |
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Truss’s cabinet apparently on 18:15 - Sep 4 with 930 views | Darth_Koont |
Truss’s cabinet apparently on 18:07 - Sep 4 by BanksterDebtSlave | You do understand that it is possible to not want a Tory government but also know that the alternative is also uninspiring I hope. |
Uninspiring, inadequate, unserious, undemocratic and untrustworthy. Oh and generally a bunch of out-of-touch right-wingers who are closer to the Tories than to being the source of actual solutions. They’re pretty much a democratic death cult. Quick! Get me a red flag and some pom-poms! |  |
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Truss’s cabinet apparently on 18:15 - Sep 4 with 927 views | positivity |
Truss’s cabinet apparently on 18:07 - Sep 4 by BanksterDebtSlave | You do understand that it is possible to not want a Tory government but also know that the alternative is also uninspiring I hope. |
you do understand that a labour government, even a mild/competent one will be better than a tory government i hope? even blair gave us surestart, increased nhs funding, public health legislation, the minimum wage, peace in northern ireland, devolution etc etc etc fight for the positive in everything (or the least worst if you choose to look it at that way!) it has real positive effects on people's lives |  |
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Truss’s cabinet apparently on 18:32 - Sep 4 with 912 views | XYZ |
Truss’s cabinet apparently on 18:15 - Sep 4 by positivity | you do understand that a labour government, even a mild/competent one will be better than a tory government i hope? even blair gave us surestart, increased nhs funding, public health legislation, the minimum wage, peace in northern ireland, devolution etc etc etc fight for the positive in everything (or the least worst if you choose to look it at that way!) it has real positive effects on people's lives |
It seems the preference is that another generation of kids and their families have their lives permanently blighted under further tory governments if, that way, Starmer's leadership is seen to have failed. |  | |  |
Truss’s cabinet apparently on 18:40 - Sep 4 with 905 views | positivity |
Truss’s cabinet apparently on 18:15 - Sep 4 by Darth_Koont | Uninspiring, inadequate, unserious, undemocratic and untrustworthy. Oh and generally a bunch of out-of-touch right-wingers who are closer to the Tories than to being the source of actual solutions. They’re pretty much a democratic death cult. Quick! Get me a red flag and some pom-poms! |
so starmer/rayner/lammy/khan/burnham et al are "a bunch of out-of-touch right-wingers who are closer to the Tories than to being the source of actual solutions" that's populist student grant claptrap even for you! |  |
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Truss’s cabinet apparently on 19:02 - Sep 4 with 887 views | tractordownsouth |
Truss’s cabinet apparently on 07:53 - Sep 4 by BanksterDebtSlave | Either that or just commenting on a thread and a linked article! Getting rid of Starmer for Rayner, Burnham to return as an MP and then her deputy thus guaranteeing a win and slightly more progressive politics. I think you will find you have the last sentence arse about tit. |
If Burnham became leader he would be a disappointment to the Labour left. I think he’s done a great job as mayor of Manchester but it’s much easier to be ideologically pure when you only have to appeal to a city with strong Labour traditions rather than the country as a whole. |  |
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Truss’s cabinet apparently on 19:06 - Sep 4 with 873 views | jeera |
Truss’s cabinet apparently on 19:02 - Sep 4 by tractordownsouth | If Burnham became leader he would be a disappointment to the Labour left. I think he’s done a great job as mayor of Manchester but it’s much easier to be ideologically pure when you only have to appeal to a city with strong Labour traditions rather than the country as a whole. |
I'm at the point right now where I'll settle for anyone with a shred of decency and at least some element of honesty. My expectations are pretty much on the floor. |  |
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Truss’s cabinet apparently on 19:07 - Sep 4 with 869 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Truss’s cabinet apparently on 19:02 - Sep 4 by tractordownsouth | If Burnham became leader he would be a disappointment to the Labour left. I think he’s done a great job as mayor of Manchester but it’s much easier to be ideologically pure when you only have to appeal to a city with strong Labour traditions rather than the country as a whole. |
He's actually closer to a genuine centrist but anyhow I said deputy for now due to him not being an MP. Anyhow....keep on moving those goalposts... |  |
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Truss’s cabinet apparently on 19:21 - Sep 4 with 843 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Truss’s cabinet apparently on 18:15 - Sep 4 by positivity | you do understand that a labour government, even a mild/competent one will be better than a tory government i hope? even blair gave us surestart, increased nhs funding, public health legislation, the minimum wage, peace in northern ireland, devolution etc etc etc fight for the positive in everything (or the least worst if you choose to look it at that way!) it has real positive effects on people's lives |
You do understand that settling for tweedle dum or tweedle dee versions of crap mediocrity have got us to where we are now? |  |
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Truss’s cabinet apparently on 19:27 - Sep 4 with 830 views | ZXBlue |
Truss’s cabinet apparently on 19:21 - Sep 4 by BanksterDebtSlave | You do understand that settling for tweedle dum or tweedle dee versions of crap mediocrity have got us to where we are now? |
How does that even begin to address the point made? |  | |  |
Truss’s cabinet apparently on 19:28 - Sep 4 with 829 views | jeera |
Truss’s cabinet apparently on 19:21 - Sep 4 by BanksterDebtSlave | You do understand that settling for tweedle dum or tweedle dee versions of crap mediocrity have got us to where we are now? |
The point being though Bankster, is it doesn't matter how many times it gets repeated or how many of us agree, boring the crap out of everyone isn't going to change it. Nor is a comment like "he needs to go". As a number agree, Starmer isn't what we would hope for, but saying that over and over isn't going to accomplish anything and wanting him replaced isn't going to get him replaced. Unless there's some magic we can evoke by will alone by sheer numbers. What's the plan? Kidnap him and shove him in your shed until after the next election? |  |
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Truss’s cabinet apparently on 20:32 - Sep 4 with 781 views | Darth_Koont |
Truss’s cabinet apparently on 19:02 - Sep 4 by tractordownsouth | If Burnham became leader he would be a disappointment to the Labour left. I think he’s done a great job as mayor of Manchester but it’s much easier to be ideologically pure when you only have to appeal to a city with strong Labour traditions rather than the country as a whole. |
This rubbish about ideologically pure is getting so tiring. I’m talking about policies that aren’t a continuation of the same mistakes. That’s not asking for the impossible, unless we’re saying that we’re now utterly captive to the whims and interests of the political class. When did we become so crap at this? |  |
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