| Truss’s cabinet apparently 22:00 - Sep 3 with 6465 views | ElderGrizzly |
With Badenoch as Education secretary and Braverman as Home Secretary
Feck me…
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| Truss’s cabinet apparently on 22:36 - Sep 4 with 953 views | eireblue |
| Truss’s cabinet apparently on 19:28 - Sep 4 by jeera |
The point being though Bankster, is it doesn't matter how many times it gets repeated or how many of us agree, boring the crap out of everyone isn't going to change it.
Nor is a comment like "he needs to go".
As a number agree, Starmer isn't what we would hope for, but saying that over and over isn't going to accomplish anything and wanting him replaced isn't going to get him replaced.
Unless there's some magic we can evoke by will alone by sheer numbers.
What's the plan? Kidnap him and shove him in your shed until after the next election? |
Maybe have lots of shouty cyclists cycling around the shed to drown out Starmer when he puts forward, quite insistently, considered reasons why someone should let him out?
Hmmm, there are elements of a plan here. |  | | |
| Truss’s cabinet apparently on 23:23 - Sep 4 with 923 views | mylittletown |
| Truss’s cabinet apparently on 20:32 - Sep 4 by Darth_Koont |
This rubbish about ideologically pure is getting so tiring.
I’m talking about policies that aren’t a continuation of the same mistakes. That’s not asking for the impossible, unless we’re saying that we’re now utterly captive to the whims and interests of the political class.
When did we become so crap at this? |
We've been crap at it since about the 1880's which is when our economy started its comparative decline.
First past the post is one of our main problems. it stops any sort of common purpose, compromise and thought in policymaking.
When a fat liar can get an 80 seat majority with 43.6% of the votes cast by 67% of the eligible voters our problem is clear. He had no popular mandate at all, but was able to act as if he was a dictator.
For balance let's note that no government has had a popular mandate since the current configuration of the UK was formed in 1922, after the creation of the Irish Free State, except for the Baldwin government of 1931.
Not Churchill, not Attlee, not Thatcher, not Blair.
It really isn't democracy. |  | | |
| Truss’s cabinet apparently on 23:25 - Sep 4 with 920 views | positivity |
| Truss’s cabinet apparently on 19:21 - Sep 4 by BanksterDebtSlave |
You do understand that settling for tweedle dum or tweedle dee versions of crap mediocrity have got us to where we are now? |
you do understand that a labour government, even a mild/competent one will be better than a tory government i hope?
if you think johnson/truss are crap mediocrity you need to look closer; it's radical, populist right wing idiocracy and it always beats far-left head-in-the-sand ideology in britain.
even blair gave us surestart, increased nhs funding, public health legislation, the minimum wage, peace in northern ireland, devolution etc etc etc
fight for the positive in everything (or the least worst if you choose to look it at that way!) it has real positive effects on people's lives |  |
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| Truss’s cabinet apparently on 23:29 - Sep 4 with 916 views | positivity |
| Truss’s cabinet apparently on 23:23 - Sep 4 by mylittletown |
We've been crap at it since about the 1880's which is when our economy started its comparative decline.
First past the post is one of our main problems. it stops any sort of common purpose, compromise and thought in policymaking.
When a fat liar can get an 80 seat majority with 43.6% of the votes cast by 67% of the eligible voters our problem is clear. He had no popular mandate at all, but was able to act as if he was a dictator.
For balance let's note that no government has had a popular mandate since the current configuration of the UK was formed in 1922, after the creation of the Irish Free State, except for the Baldwin government of 1931.
Not Churchill, not Attlee, not Thatcher, not Blair.
It really isn't democracy. |
yes agreed, and the tories will never change it, a labour government should and with a bit of a nudge, it just might...
https://www.bestforbritain.org/cw_write_to_nec_candidates_hassan?utm_campaign=20 | |
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| Truss’s cabinet apparently on 23:41 - Sep 4 with 905 views | Geomorph |
Haha … very appropriate for a banana republic … no wonder medieval Britons resorted to religion ffs [Post edited 4 Sep 2022 23:45]
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| Truss’s cabinet apparently on 23:46 - Sep 4 with 869 views | mylittletown |
I hope that they will, but they've had chances before. | | | |
| Truss’s cabinet apparently on 00:02 - Sep 5 with 842 views | positivity |
| Truss’s cabinet apparently on 23:46 - Sep 4 by mylittletown |
I hope that they will, but they've had chances before. |
minds might be focussed by seeing just how the anti-democrats can work here (proroguing) and abroad (capitol attack).
it also might be helped by a likely minority/small majority labour government.
anyway, a little nudge can't hurt
(not sure what the main barrier to labour acceptance is, is it a union thing?) | |
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| Truss’s cabinet apparently on 08:17 - Sep 5 with 754 views | mylittletown |
| Truss’s cabinet apparently on 00:02 - Sep 5 by positivity |
minds might be focussed by seeing just how the anti-democrats can work here (proroguing) and abroad (capitol attack).
it also might be helped by a likely minority/small majority labour government.
anyway, a little nudge can't hurt
(not sure what the main barrier to labour acceptance is, is it a union thing?) |
The unions definitely don't help. Every time Len McClusky appeared on TV, Labour lost thousands of votes.
Iraq war didn't help.
University fees didn't help.
Then there was the Corbyn disaster. | | | |
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| Truss’s cabinet apparently on 08:21 - Sep 5 with 745 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Truss’s cabinet apparently on 08:17 - Sep 5 by mylittletown |
The unions definitely don't help. Every time Len McClusky appeared on TV, Labour lost thousands of votes.
Iraq war didn't help.
University fees didn't help.
Then there was the Corbyn disaster. |
“Then there was the Corbyn disaster.”
Here we go… | | | |
| Truss’s cabinet apparently on 17:21 - Sep 5 with 648 views | positivity |
| Truss’s cabinet apparently on 08:17 - Sep 5 by mylittletown |
The unions definitely don't help. Every time Len McClusky appeared on TV, Labour lost thousands of votes.
Iraq war didn't help.
University fees didn't help.
Then there was the Corbyn disaster. |
i was meaning the labour barriers to acceptance of pr specifically | |
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| Truss’s cabinet apparently on 17:25 - Sep 5 with 633 views | bluelagos |
As sh1t as it will no doubt be, the fact that Raab, Patel and Gove are likely nowhere near the new cabinet is no bad thing of itself. |  |
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| Truss’s cabinet apparently on 17:38 - Sep 5 with 624 views | mylittletown |
| Truss’s cabinet apparently on 17:21 - Sep 5 by positivity |
i was meaning the labour barriers to acceptance of pr specifically |
Not entirely sure, although the unions definitely stopped the 2021 Labour Conference from adopting a commitment to PR, although an estimated 80% of the attendees were in favour of PR.
In 2010, when we had the so called referendum on PR, there was without question a feeling that Labour didn't need PR and that PR might actually hinder Labour from winning an overall majority. Labour had only very narrowly lost the 2010 election.
But the SNP only had 6 MPs in the 2005 and 2010 Westminster parliaments, so Labour were definitely safer than they were after the 2015 election when they basically lost Scotland, and the SNP suddenly had 56 MPs. (They have 45 now). So the picture now is quite different. | | | |
| Truss’s cabinet apparently on 18:16 - Sep 5 with 589 views | ZXBlue |
| Truss’s cabinet apparently on 17:25 - Sep 5 by bluelagos |
As sh1t as it will no doubt be, the fact that Raab, Patel and Gove are likely nowhere near the new cabinet is no bad thing of itself. |
Raab v Braverman?
Its like asking which side of the bread you would like to have smeared with excrement. | | | |
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