| Too much expectation and entitlement 09:38 - Jan 22 with 5500 views | jasondozzell |
Think maybe we need to accept that just because we want to win the league, that doesn't mean we have a God given right to.
Has Kmac improved the team? Yes. Has he got us playing a really good style of football? Yes. Have we made huge progress on and off the field? Yes.
He's a gifted young coach and this is his first job. Robson didn't win everything straight away either did he. Inevitable that there will be bumps in the road.
A few seasons ago we would have been desperate to be in the top 6 after awful mid table finishes in this league. I know we've had so much disappointment but turning the club around from where it was was never going to be an easy fix.
We are still creating good chances. At the moment it's finishing letting us down really. Fog meant second half was lottery.
Team needs our support. That means when we are going through a harder patch too.
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| Too much expectation and entitlement on 11:27 - Jan 22 with 1071 views | waveneyblue |
| Too much expectation and entitlement on 11:11 - Jan 22 by FrimleyBlue |
Or you just remember when Evans took over everything seemed great.
Young manager. Money. Ambition.
Soon got fed up spending for failure and club left to rot. |
If you believe Gamechanger can be compared with Evans you are a bigger fool than we give you credit for.
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| Too much expectation and entitlement on 11:28 - Jan 22 with 1072 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Too much expectation and entitlement on 10:44 - Jan 22 by patrickswell |
"He failed to finish in the play offs last season"
I don't think you can lay that at McKenna's door. |
He hates McKenna.
Desperate for him to fail so that he can justify his "I don't like him, too Smarmy" post.
If McKenna succeeds, Frimmers is going to get hammered with that post forever. |  |
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| Too much expectation and entitlement on 11:31 - Jan 22 with 1045 views | pointofblue |
| Too much expectation and entitlement on 11:23 - Jan 22 by Ryorry |
So in your view, someone who's never managed a Club's first team before isn't a rookie. Sums up the validity of your take.
A reminder for you of our league positions for the first full 3 seasons Bobby Robson (as he was back then) managed us, starting 1969-70 (top tier) -
18th
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To play devil’s advocate, did Sir Bobby get massive financial backing compared to the majority of his peers, enabling him to build a squad nearly every other team in the division would love to have? [Post edited 22 Jan 2023 12:05]
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| Too much expectation and entitlement on 11:32 - Jan 22 with 1037 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Too much expectation and entitlement on 11:28 - Jan 22 by Cheltenham_Blue |
He hates McKenna.
Desperate for him to fail so that he can justify his "I don't like him, too Smarmy" post.
If McKenna succeeds, Frimmers is going to get hammered with that post forever. |
Only you seem to push the whole dislike of KM thing. I quite like him. As stated in a post when I took back the smarmy thing. But of course you choose to ignore that as it suits your agenda.
We all hope KM succeeds. At present he isn't. But there's time to turn it around. |  |
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| Too much expectation and entitlement on 11:33 - Jan 22 with 1031 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Too much expectation and entitlement on 11:27 - Jan 22 by waveneyblue |
If you believe Gamechanger can be compared with Evans you are a bigger fool than we give you credit for.
Do you ever actually think before you type ? |
At present the actual owner is no different to Evans. Banging in millions of pounds in hope it pays off with promotion.
Thankfully the difference is however we have a ceo who may make use of the money better than clegg did, but we've yet to see if that's the case. [Post edited 22 Jan 2023 11:34]
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| Too much expectation and entitlement on 11:39 - Jan 22 with 1002 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Too much expectation and entitlement on 11:37 - Jan 22 by Ryorry |
"At present the actual owner is no different to Evans."
Are you trying to beat your own downvotes record or something?
Please take a wee break, for your own sake if no-one else's. |
No, there's just a strange rewriting of history going on.
No one bemoaned the first couple years under Evans. | |
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| Too much expectation and entitlement on 11:41 - Jan 22 with 999 views | Guthrum |
| Too much expectation and entitlement on 11:11 - Jan 22 by FrimleyBlue |
Or you just remember when Evans took over everything seemed great.
Young manager. Money. Ambition.
Soon got fed up spending for failure and club left to rot. |
Except that Evans' first-change manager took us from challenging to near-relegation and Gamechangers' has done the reverse. |  |
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| Too much expectation and entitlement on 11:43 - Jan 22 with 984 views | waveneyblue |
| Too much expectation and entitlement on 11:39 - Jan 22 by FrimleyBlue |
No, there's just a strange rewriting of history going on.
No one bemoaned the first couple years under Evans. |
Only in your head matey..... | | | |
| Too much expectation and entitlement on 11:44 - Jan 22 with 979 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Too much expectation and entitlement on 11:39 - Jan 22 by FrimleyBlue |
No, there's just a strange rewriting of history going on.
No one bemoaned the first couple years under Evans. |
The alarm bells were ringing for many of us very early on.
Me included, none of us seem to have that sensation with GC20 | |
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| Too much expectation and entitlement on 11:44 - Jan 22 with 972 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Too much expectation and entitlement on 11:41 - Jan 22 by Guthrum |
Except that Evans' first-change manager took us from challenging to near-relegation and Gamechangers' has done the reverse. |
You spend 8-10 mill in league one you'd bloody hope you are actually playing with those up the top end. Should be auto challengers but apparently that's to much of an expectation. | |
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| Too much expectation and entitlement on 11:47 - Jan 22 with 959 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Too much expectation and entitlement on 11:44 - Jan 22 by Cheltenham_Blue |
The alarm bells were ringing for many of us very early on.
Me included, none of us seem to have that sensation with GC20 |
Probably because you keep seeing the owners as GC20 | |
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| Too much expectation and entitlement on 11:51 - Jan 22 with 956 views | pointofblue |
| Too much expectation and entitlement on 11:44 - Jan 22 by Cheltenham_Blue |
The alarm bells were ringing for many of us very early on.
Me included, none of us seem to have that sensation with GC20 |
I’m actually amazed looking back that Evans apparently took over the club in December 2007. I thought it was much later than that. So 21 months in - the equivalent time to Gamechanger being in charge - would take us to September 2009. By this time, he’d sacked Magilton, brought in Keane and had gone seven games without a win to start the season. Things were certainly not happy and rosy. | |
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| Too much expectation and entitlement on 11:55 - Jan 22 with 939 views | textbackup |
"Too much expectation"
its our 4th or 5th season in L1, how dare we |  |
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| Too much expectation and entitlement on 11:58 - Jan 22 with 919 views | FrimleyBlue |
Dodgy link.
Gamechanger is owned by the pension pot. Who are the ones putting the money in.
Depends who you personally believe the club belongs to. 3 lions or pension pot.
the Arizona Public Safety Personnel Retirement System own 90% of Gamechanger 20 Ltd. [Post edited 22 Jan 2023 11:59]
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| Too much expectation and entitlement on 12:01 - Jan 22 with 910 views | Enigma_Blue |
| Too much expectation and entitlement on 10:55 - Jan 22 by FrimleyBlue |
28000 people and 3000 yesterday did that. It didn't make a difference. And sitting on here pretending all is OK isn't gonna win points. |
Moaning and lashing out on here won't make a difference either you, realise that don't you?
Or do you seriously believe that if the majority of fans had the exact same mentality as you that would somehow make us play better & win more matches?
Sure be unhappy and discuss with other fans why we are struggling of late but don't kid yourself that you or any of us can affect how we perform. [Post edited 22 Jan 2023 12:05]
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| Too much expectation and entitlement on 12:04 - Jan 22 with 882 views | chicoazul |
| Too much expectation and entitlement on 12:01 - Jan 22 by Enigma_Blue |
Moaning and lashing out on here won't make a difference either you, realise that don't you?
Or do you seriously believe that if the majority of fans had the exact same mentality as you that would somehow make us play better & win more matches?
Sure be unhappy and discuss with other fans why we are struggling of late but don't kid yourself that you or any of us can affect how we perform. [Post edited 22 Jan 2023 12:05]
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Nothing anyone says makes any difference so it’s perfectly fine to vent whatever opinions one has, bad or otherwise. IpswichLover69’s tweets or forum posts won’t affect Burgess missing a header. |  |
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| Too much expectation and entitlement on 12:06 - Jan 22 with 877 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Too much expectation and entitlement on 11:58 - Jan 22 by FrimleyBlue |
Dodgy link.
Gamechanger is owned by the pension pot. Who are the ones putting the money in.
Depends who you personally believe the club belongs to. 3 lions or pension pot.
the Arizona Public Safety Personnel Retirement System own 90% of Gamechanger 20 Ltd. [Post edited 22 Jan 2023 11:59]
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Nope.
The pension pot is the largest shareholder in GC20. But they do not 'own' it
We are not owned by PSPRS, we are 'owned', by GC20.
So, for the sake of your argument, our owners are GC20, the pension fund is the financier.
Else we would have Mark Steed living here. | |
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| Too much expectation and entitlement on 12:09 - Jan 22 with 864 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Too much expectation and entitlement on 12:01 - Jan 22 by Enigma_Blue |
Moaning and lashing out on here won't make a difference either you, realise that don't you?
Or do you seriously believe that if the majority of fans had the exact same mentality as you that would somehow make us play better & win more matches?
Sure be unhappy and discuss with other fans why we are struggling of late but don't kid yourself that you or any of us can affect how we perform. [Post edited 22 Jan 2023 12:05]
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I'm of the same view that no matter what is said on here has Any effect on what goes on out on the pitch. But people keep piping up with keep positive, they need our support etc. They are getting it. So people need to stop trying to preach about positive thoughts online which have 0 effect on the pitch. | |
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| Too much expectation and entitlement on 12:10 - Jan 22 with 861 views | Enigma_Blue |
| Too much expectation and entitlement on 12:04 - Jan 22 by chicoazul |
Nothing anyone says makes any difference so it’s perfectly fine to vent whatever opinions one has, bad or otherwise. IpswichLover69’s tweets or forum posts won’t affect Burgess missing a header. |
But the way some fans act its like they think of everyone takes the same attitude as them it might actually make a difference.
We can all hope and want success, but why anyone would ever expect success is beyond me. If you go through life expecting things in football or any sport you are going to end up bitterly disappointed most of the time. | | | |
| Too much expectation and entitlement on 12:10 - Jan 22 with 842 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Too much expectation and entitlement on 12:06 - Jan 22 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Nope.
The pension pot is the largest shareholder in GC20. But they do not 'own' it
We are not owned by PSPRS, we are 'owned', by GC20.
So, for the sake of your argument, our owners are GC20, the pension fund is the financier.
Else we would have Mark Steed living here. |
Indeed. The financer who is no different to Evans in that they've pumped millions into the club and will want to see results. More seasons in league 1 won't be part of that as steed made a very clear reference to.
I'd feel alot better about everything if the 3 lions actually were the money men tbh. | |
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| Too much expectation and entitlement on 12:14 - Jan 22 with 830 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Too much expectation and entitlement on 12:10 - Jan 22 by FrimleyBlue |
Indeed. The financer who is no different to Evans in that they've pumped millions into the club and will want to see results. More seasons in league 1 won't be part of that as steed made a very clear reference to.
I'd feel alot better about everything if the 3 lions actually were the money men tbh. |
"no different to Evans"?
You're absolutely clueless. | |
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| Too much expectation and entitlement on 12:14 - Jan 22 with 830 views | PioneerBlue |
| Too much expectation and entitlement on 10:31 - Jan 22 by FrimleyBlue |
The owners have allowed the ceo to spend millions to help the manager get us promoted.
It's not entitlement to expect promotion, t's just how it is.itd why he was employed and he's been given all the tools to do the job.
He failed to finish in the play offs last season.
We were on our way this season but have messed it up. [Post edited 22 Jan 2023 10:41]
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Expecting anything is the very definition of entitlement. The money accelerates the ability to accumulate a group of players that could give you a chance to compete for promotion. | |
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| Too much expectation and entitlement on 12:20 - Jan 22 with 802 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Too much expectation and entitlement on 12:14 - Jan 22 by Cheltenham_Blue |
"no different to Evans"?
You're absolutely clueless. |
Very clever to take a snippet of a post and ignore why it's being compared.
But then that wouldn't suit your agenda | |
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