Leif Davis 03:48 - Feb 1 with 4586 views | The_Romford_Blue | 2.62 chances crated per game. 68 chances created this season in 26 matches. Only 3 behind League 1 leader Barry Bannan and 23 clear of third placed Conor Hourihane. Really shows how poor our finishing has been that he only has 7 assists. He is miles too good for this league and we will need to be promoted if we want to keep him for next season. |  |
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Leif Davis on 15:34 - Feb 1 with 990 views | MaySixth | the irony is that Leeds are looking for left back cover. |  |
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Leif Davis on 15:42 - Feb 1 with 931 views | FrimleyBlue |
Leif Davis on 15:32 - Feb 1 by SomethingBlue | He's right about your cross % stat tho — it's decontextualised nonsense. |
He may well be. Which I covered In thread that the stats could be taken either way and aren't something I usually bother posting with and just share my view but funnily enough SB and others go on about having to share links etc when sharing an opinion. So if the stats are pointless blame the one asking for them. |  |
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Leif Davis on 15:49 - Feb 1 with 910 views | StokieBlue |
Leif Davis on 15:42 - Feb 1 by FrimleyBlue | He may well be. Which I covered In thread that the stats could be taken either way and aren't something I usually bother posting with and just share my view but funnily enough SB and others go on about having to share links etc when sharing an opinion. So if the stats are pointless blame the one asking for them. |
Wooahhh. That's a really bizarre post even for you. It cannot be the fault of the person requesting evidence, it's your fault for incorrectly interpreting the stats and putting them forward as evidence. In this case they weren't even requested, you used them initially to attempt to support your point. In this case you cited 38% as a low cross completion stat and that it was something he really needed to improve. In reality it's a very decent stat because you need to combine it with the percentile data which showed he was above the 90th percentile for cross completion, crosses per match etc. In fact he was above the 90th percentile for almost everything. You then got annoyed because you point was shown to be total nonsense. SB |  | |  |
Leif Davis on 16:01 - Feb 1 with 890 views | FrimleyBlue |
Leif Davis on 15:49 - Feb 1 by StokieBlue | Wooahhh. That's a really bizarre post even for you. It cannot be the fault of the person requesting evidence, it's your fault for incorrectly interpreting the stats and putting them forward as evidence. In this case they weren't even requested, you used them initially to attempt to support your point. In this case you cited 38% as a low cross completion stat and that it was something he really needed to improve. In reality it's a very decent stat because you need to combine it with the percentile data which showed he was above the 90th percentile for cross completion, crosses per match etc. In fact he was above the 90th percentile for almost everything. You then got annoyed because you point was shown to be total nonsense. SB |
See this is again where you take what you want to and ignore the other points. I said the 38% can be seen how ever you want to see it. Imo it's not that high. But also cross completion really can come under the responsibility of the other players rather than the crosser. Are they making the right runs etc. I made that very very clear in that thread. But yes you once again pick at it and use it to suit your agenda. I made it very very clear in the threads about why I was using stats when I usually don't. But bravo for ignoring that. It's exactly why I don't use stats and my opinions are always just based on thoughts from watching games. But again you can't say someone is good at crossing but could do better as you'd take that just as you have and say I've said he's rubbish at crossing. Which again at no point have I said he is rubbish at crossing. It's a complete rewrite of history from you once again. BTW. Incase its really difficult for you to understand and to be clear. Davis. Just like burns is good at crossing. However there are times when they both choose the wrong option or some of their crosses do not come off Neither is rubbish at crossing. But could still be better. I await for you in 2 weeks time to say how I've still said they are both rubbish at crossing. |  |
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Leif Davis on 16:14 - Feb 1 with 860 views | itfcjoe |
Leif Davis on 16:01 - Feb 1 by FrimleyBlue | See this is again where you take what you want to and ignore the other points. I said the 38% can be seen how ever you want to see it. Imo it's not that high. But also cross completion really can come under the responsibility of the other players rather than the crosser. Are they making the right runs etc. I made that very very clear in that thread. But yes you once again pick at it and use it to suit your agenda. I made it very very clear in the threads about why I was using stats when I usually don't. But bravo for ignoring that. It's exactly why I don't use stats and my opinions are always just based on thoughts from watching games. But again you can't say someone is good at crossing but could do better as you'd take that just as you have and say I've said he's rubbish at crossing. Which again at no point have I said he is rubbish at crossing. It's a complete rewrite of history from you once again. BTW. Incase its really difficult for you to understand and to be clear. Davis. Just like burns is good at crossing. However there are times when they both choose the wrong option or some of their crosses do not come off Neither is rubbish at crossing. But could still be better. I await for you in 2 weeks time to say how I've still said they are both rubbish at crossing. |
Surely you understand that if someone's crossing completion percentage is above the 90th percentile that whatever you think about it from your eye test they are clearly a very good crosser off the ball? |  |
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Leif Davis on 16:17 - Feb 1 with 847 views | Herbivore |
Leif Davis on 13:51 - Feb 1 by OsborneOneNil | One clear example of where Frimmers is correct here (shudder) is the second Pompey goal we conceded at their place. Horrible big looping cross from their left, no jump whatsoever from Leif and he is beaten by their man who nods it back across for a tap in. So, there is that 'weakness', but on the whole, a cracking player for us so far. |
But as I mentioned, that was from a set piece and they'd stuck a big lump on the back stick. We should have matched up said big lump with a big lump of our own. Much as Davis has room for improvement, the issue there was more than he was outmatched in who he was left to mark. |  |
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Leif Davis on 16:21 - Feb 1 with 824 views | tractorboy1978 |
Leif Davis on 16:17 - Feb 1 by Herbivore | But as I mentioned, that was from a set piece and they'd stuck a big lump on the back stick. We should have matched up said big lump with a big lump of our own. Much as Davis has room for improvement, the issue there was more than he was outmatched in who he was left to mark. |
Also, if someone 6 inches taller than you has a run on you from a standing start, it's extremely difficult to defend. That sort of thing will always happen. |  | |  |
Leif Davis on 16:23 - Feb 1 with 810 views | jaykay |
Leif Davis on 10:01 - Feb 1 by J2BLUE | Big call. Cresswell did it in the Championship. Hopefully Davis will get that chance next season if we can get there. |
leif would have done it in the championship till injury halted his progress .he was just getting a run of games |  |
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Leif Davis on 16:26 - Feb 1 with 802 views | Herbivore |
Leif Davis on 16:21 - Feb 1 by tractorboy1978 | Also, if someone 6 inches taller than you has a run on you from a standing start, it's extremely difficult to defend. That sort of thing will always happen. |
Exactly. Bit of a perfect storm really. That's not to say that he won't learn a few tricks to make it harder when he knows he's going to be outjumped, but for that goal in particular he was left in a really tricky spot. |  |
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Leif Davis on 17:03 - Feb 1 with 731 views | FrimleyBlue |
Leif Davis on 16:14 - Feb 1 by itfcjoe | Surely you understand that if someone's crossing completion percentage is above the 90th percentile that whatever you think about it from your eye test they are clearly a very good crosser off the ball? |
As said originally Joe. It wasn't that he was a bad crosser that's SBs twist on the view. It was about his development and how I felt overtime he'd continue to improve. His crossing is good. There are times however he chooses a wrong option. I.e drilled cross into a crowded box when an option to float one to the back post is on etc. ( similar to Burns ), That was the point I was trying to get across in that orignal thread. |  |
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Leif Davis on 17:25 - Feb 1 with 688 views | PrideOfTheEast |
Leif Davis on 15:08 - Feb 1 by FrimleyBlue | Also happened against Morcambe, the one chance they had which Edmundson blocked early on, it was a lost header at the far post by Davis which lead to the chance. |
It was very odd how we set up for that set piece. We left Davis on their biggest man and I said at the time that seemed odd (but was seemingly deliberate). |  | |  |
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