| So then, this MADDEN thing 13:56 - Feb 1 with 3967 views | TalkingBlues |
apparently he never said anything about match being a draw after 75 minutes, so presumably both Robinson and McKenna misheard him yeah? Sure.
Luckily the refs microphones are recorded, so we can all hear exactly what was said, but let me guess, the recording will mysteriously vanish, or wasn't working at the time, right?
This is a joke, the EFL are basically calling McK and Robinson liars, if they're happy with that, great, but I doubt they are and I'm absolutely f****ing fuming about it and it's not even me they're calling a liar!!
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| So then, this MADDEN thing on 14:25 - Feb 1 with 3508 views | CityBlue |
people will say it was the same for both teams with regards the fog....and this is the issue I have because essentially the fog levelled the playing field when we are a far superior team. |  |
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| So then, this MADDEN thing on 14:26 - Feb 1 with 3496 views | Illinoisblue |
I’m more annoyed we missed five very good chances. The ref thing is a lot of fuss over nothing. |  |
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| So then, this MADDEN thing on 14:28 - Feb 1 with 3485 views | earlsgreenblue |
| So then, this MADDEN thing on 14:25 - Feb 1 by CityBlue |
people will say it was the same for both teams with regards the fog....and this is the issue I have because essentially the fog levelled the playing field when we are a far superior team. |
Not to mention the thousands who paid for a fog bound ifollow “ white screen” couldn’t see a bloody thing! Outrageous………. |  | | |
| So then, this MADDEN thing on 14:48 - Feb 1 with 3363 views | Pinewoodblue |
That is why the club are not making a public response.You can be sure that any private response will be strong. |  |
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| So then, this MADDEN thing on 15:46 - Feb 1 with 3207 views | HighgateBlue |
Do we know what the exact words were that each party asserts was used?
The ref may have said something like "it's 75 minutes gone, so the result would stand if we abandon now". Which is a statement of what is highly likely to have happened if they had abandoned at 75 minutes gone. It's true it's not a rule, but unless the ref actually mentioned a rule, I don't think we need get our knickers too much in a twist.
The FA has not made any finding that anyone has lied.
The bottom line in any event is that McKenna did not insist that the game be abandoned. IF he felt that the rules were being stated wrongly, he could have told the referee what the actual rule was, but he didn't do that.
It's a shame we lost, but we lost in bad weather conditions which made the game a bit more of a lottery, just as Leicester did when we beat them 3-0 in the snow. |  | | |
| So then, this MADDEN thing on 15:54 - Feb 1 with 3130 views | Keno |
the whole thing is maddening |  |
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| So then, this MADDEN thing on 16:01 - Feb 1 with 3093 views | farkenhell |
| So then, this MADDEN thing on 15:46 - Feb 1 by HighgateBlue |
Do we know what the exact words were that each party asserts was used?
The ref may have said something like "it's 75 minutes gone, so the result would stand if we abandon now". Which is a statement of what is highly likely to have happened if they had abandoned at 75 minutes gone. It's true it's not a rule, but unless the ref actually mentioned a rule, I don't think we need get our knickers too much in a twist.
The FA has not made any finding that anyone has lied.
The bottom line in any event is that McKenna did not insist that the game be abandoned. IF he felt that the rules were being stated wrongly, he could have told the referee what the actual rule was, but he didn't do that.
It's a shame we lost, but we lost in bad weather conditions which made the game a bit more of a lottery, just as Leicester did when we beat them 3-0 in the snow. |
As I understand it, the referee told McKenna and Robinson that if the game were to be abandoned, then 1-1 would stand as the result. At which, McKenna (understandably) elected to play on. Had the referee not misrepresented the rules, then it appears to be accepted that the game would have been abandoned.
That is the bottom line. In those circumstances, to criticise McKenna for not putting the (supposed) expert right is, I'm sorry, completely absurd. | | | |
| So then, this MADDEN thing on 16:06 - Feb 1 with 3053 views | FrimleyBlue |
| So then, this MADDEN thing on 16:01 - Feb 1 by farkenhell |
As I understand it, the referee told McKenna and Robinson that if the game were to be abandoned, then 1-1 would stand as the result. At which, McKenna (understandably) elected to play on. Had the referee not misrepresented the rules, then it appears to be accepted that the game would have been abandoned.
That is the bottom line. In those circumstances, to criticise McKenna for not putting the (supposed) expert right is, I'm sorry, completely absurd. |
I still don't know why we took the risk.
Imo it wasn't a game we were in control of and despite having a few chances. It was scrappy game and a draw in those conditions would have been an OK outcome. |  |
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| So then, this MADDEN thing on 16:09 - Feb 1 with 3032 views | Keno |
From what I heard the ref has quite the entourage and asked to just speak to the two managers alone so they would be far madden crowd | |
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| So then, this MADDEN thing on 16:11 - Feb 1 with 3009 views | jp_itfc |
| So then, this MADDEN thing on 16:06 - Feb 1 by FrimleyBlue |
I still don't know why we took the risk.
Imo it wasn't a game we were in control of and despite having a few chances. It was scrappy game and a draw in those conditions would have been an OK outcome. |
I thought we were in control at the time and creating some decent chances. Hindsight is a funny thing, but at the time I would of been disappointed if we agreed on a draw. | | | |
| So then, this MADDEN thing on 16:24 - Feb 1 with 2898 views | Pinewoodblue |
| So then, this MADDEN thing on 16:01 - Feb 1 by farkenhell |
As I understand it, the referee told McKenna and Robinson that if the game were to be abandoned, then 1-1 would stand as the result. At which, McKenna (understandably) elected to play on. Had the referee not misrepresented the rules, then it appears to be accepted that the game would have been abandoned.
That is the bottom line. In those circumstances, to criticise McKenna for not putting the (supposed) expert right is, I'm sorry, completely absurd. |
First time I can recall when KMc's inexperience has shown. MMc would have told Madden he was talking out his A*hole. | |
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| So then, this MADDEN thing on 16:24 - Feb 1 with 2894 views | farkenhell |
| So then, this MADDEN thing on 16:06 - Feb 1 by FrimleyBlue |
I still don't know why we took the risk.
Imo it wasn't a game we were in control of and despite having a few chances. It was scrappy game and a draw in those conditions would have been an OK outcome. |
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. I see where you're coming from, although at the time and having had (and missed) the best of the chances, I think it was reasonable to believe that we might get at least one more. Had we been two or three points above Sheffield Wednesday, McKenna might have been happier with a draw.
Doesn't change, of course, the fact that the referee got it completely wrong, or even more frustratingly (in my opinion) that neither he nor his representative body have the balls to admit he made a mistake. Fwiw, I don't think the game should be replayed, but a little honesty might make the cock-up a little more palatable. | | | |
| So then, this MADDEN thing on 16:39 - Feb 1 with 2815 views | mrfixit426 |
| So then, this MADDEN thing on 16:09 - Feb 1 by Keno |
From what I heard the ref has quite the entourage and asked to just speak to the two managers alone so they would be far madden crowd |
Ooooh, so close!
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| So then, this MADDEN thing on 16:51 - Feb 1 with 2753 views | TimeSyncOTP |
"Luckily the refs microphones are recorded, so we can all hear exactly what was said, but let me guess, the recording will mysteriously vanish, or wasn't working at the time, right?"
Are you sure they're recorded? Because I'm pretty sure they aren't. | | | |
| So then, this MADDEN thing on 16:55 - Feb 1 with 2731 views | farkenhell |
| So then, this MADDEN thing on 16:39 - Feb 1 by mrfixit426 |
Ooooh, so close!
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Keno will try again. He is known to be a Hardy soul. | | | |
| So then, this MADDEN thing on 17:05 - Feb 1 with 2703 views | jaykay |
| So then, this MADDEN thing on 14:26 - Feb 1 by Illinoisblue |
I’m more annoyed we missed five very good chances. The ref thing is a lot of fuss over nothing. |
i disagree about the ref thing. its not the result the o.p. complaining about but the ref calling 2 managers a liar |  |
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| So then, this MADDEN thing on 17:17 - Feb 1 with 2607 views | bobbyramsey |
What’s maddening is that the ref c0cked up and now the EFL are covering for his incompetence.
Nothing to do with dropped points it’s just blatantly corrupt, which boils my pi$$…. [Post edited 1 Feb 2023 17:17]
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| So then, this MADDEN thing on 17:21 - Feb 1 with 2573 views | DJR |
| So then, this MADDEN thing on 16:06 - Feb 1 by FrimleyBlue |
I still don't know why we took the risk.
Imo it wasn't a game we were in control of and despite having a few chances. It was scrappy game and a draw in those conditions would have been an OK outcome. |
I was at the game and my mates and I all thought the game should be abandoned by the 60th minute, if not sooner, because we weren't convinced we would get anything out of the game, given the way we were playing. |  | | |
| So then, this MADDEN thing on 17:24 - Feb 1 with 2557 views | Keno |
| So then, this MADDEN thing on 16:55 - Feb 1 by farkenhell |
Keno will try again. He is known to be a Hardy soul. |
Sorry I was busy talking to a right difficult lady, known locally as the mare of casterbridge [Post edited 1 Feb 2023 17:32]
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| So then, this MADDEN thing on 17:48 - Feb 1 with 2464 views | farkenhell |
| So then, this MADDEN thing on 17:24 - Feb 1 by Keno |
Sorry I was busy talking to a right difficult lady, known locally as the mare of casterbridge [Post edited 1 Feb 2023 17:32]
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Before she became so difficult, was she well beloved? | | | |
| So then, this MADDEN thing on 17:56 - Feb 1 with 2422 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| So then, this MADDEN thing on 14:26 - Feb 1 by Illinoisblue |
I’m more annoyed we missed five very good chances. The ref thing is a lot of fuss over nothing. |
I'm more annoyed no one noticed the 4 of those that went in and the Oxford keeper fetched out of the net. |  |
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| So then, this MADDEN thing on 20:00 - Feb 1 with 2137 views | Pinewoodblue |
| So then, this MADDEN thing on 17:56 - Feb 1 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I'm more annoyed no one noticed the 4 of those that went in and the Oxford keeper fetched out of the net. |
Nor the extra Oxford player who sneaked on the pitch while the assistant ref and fourth official weren't looking. | |
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| So then, this MADDEN thing on 23:43 - Feb 1 with 1831 views | Ely_Blue |
| So then, this MADDEN thing on 16:06 - Feb 1 by FrimleyBlue |
I still don't know why we took the risk.
Imo it wasn't a game we were in control of and despite having a few chances. It was scrappy game and a draw in those conditions would have been an OK outcome. |
And I can imagine your Saturday night/Sunday morning rant about that if McKenna had taken a 1-1 draw, it would be another downvote fest with you going off on one! |  |
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| So then, this MADDEN thing on 07:01 - Feb 2 with 1633 views | Churchman |
| So then, this MADDEN thing on 14:25 - Feb 1 by CityBlue |
people will say it was the same for both teams with regards the fog....and this is the issue I have because essentially the fog levelled the playing field when we are a far superior team. |
Sorry CityBlue, I understand what you are saying, but I disagree. Same pitch, same weather, same ball. Adapt and prove you are the better team. It’s what the best teams do. Anything less is for me excuses for our own inability and weakness/softness. We lost the game fair and square.
It’s just how I see it.
The appalling ref? That’s a separate issue. Of course they’ll cover there backs, but I hope there is some learning from this on all sides. From the footage I’ve seen (which can be deceptive) the game should never have started. |  | | |
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