| I hate slagging our players off 15:45 - Feb 11 with 3925 views | GlasgowBlue |
But Wollfenden looks a liability out there. |  |
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| I hate slagging our players off on 14:08 - Feb 12 with 1052 views | 3_5_2 |
| I hate slagging our players off on 15:46 - Feb 11 by belgablue |
His head has totally gone. Easy to say now but was a real mistake not strengthening at CB in the window - there was a clear need.
Also, Hirst is dreadful. I've seen milk turn quicker. |
I think he is more of a defensive midfielder |  |
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| I hate slagging our players off on 14:19 - Feb 12 with 1010 views | DJR |
| I hate slagging our players off on 13:57 - Feb 12 by pointofblue |
I have to admit, Phil, Andy Warren and Stuart Watson all criticised Woolfenden for that Smith chance to make it 3-0 but I thought the same as you - that it was actually someone passing it back to Walton, who dashed off his line. Woolfenden slowed, thinking Walton would deal with it whilst Walton stopped, thinking Woolfenden was going to. Funny how the same incident can be seen in different ways!
Oddly, it isn't included in the highlights so can't judge for certain what happened.
His passing was off yesreday in the first half, but so was everyone's so unfair to single him out for that. |
I've managed to watch it on the full match replay on the app, and it was Clarke who played it back but around Woolfy, with the result that Smith was able to run on to it. So not Woolfy's fault in my view but instead Clarke's.
But no mention of Clarke being at fault by the journos, who I think got 7 compared to 6 for Woolfy from Andy Warren, and was weak in the tackle for the second goal. [Post edited 12 Feb 2023 14:56]
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| I hate slagging our players off on 15:32 - Feb 12 with 965 views | pointofblue |
| I hate slagging our players off on 14:19 - Feb 12 by DJR |
I've managed to watch it on the full match replay on the app, and it was Clarke who played it back but around Woolfy, with the result that Smith was able to run on to it. So not Woolfy's fault in my view but instead Clarke's.
But no mention of Clarke being at fault by the journos, who I think got 7 compared to 6 for Woolfy from Andy Warren, and was weak in the tackle for the second goal. [Post edited 12 Feb 2023 14:56]
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Clarke 6, Woolfenden 5. Which is generous on Clarke and slightly harsh on Woolfenden for me. |  |
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| I hate slagging our players off on 15:33 - Feb 12 with 966 views | FrimleyBlue |
| I hate slagging our players off on 14:19 - Feb 12 by DJR |
I've managed to watch it on the full match replay on the app, and it was Clarke who played it back but around Woolfy, with the result that Smith was able to run on to it. So not Woolfy's fault in my view but instead Clarke's.
But no mention of Clarke being at fault by the journos, who I think got 7 compared to 6 for Woolfy from Andy Warren, and was weak in the tackle for the second goal. [Post edited 12 Feb 2023 14:56]
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Looked to me that Clarke was aiming to pass it back to Walton.
What I don't get is wolfy turns, see's Walton miles away, yet he leaves it for him, almost like he thought Smith wouldn't bother going for it. |  |
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| I hate slagging our players off on 16:09 - Feb 12 with 912 views | DJR |
| I hate slagging our players off on 15:32 - Feb 12 by pointofblue |
Clarke 6, Woolfenden 5. Which is generous on Clarke and slightly harsh on Woolfenden for me. |
Yes, that's right. And it was this bit of Andy Warren's summary which presumably led to the low mark.
"Most notable was a ball in behind him which he left, allowing Smith to break towards goal before the chance ultimately fizzled out. "
This suggests (wrongly) it was a through ball from the opposition, and to say he left it is harsh because it wasn't played to him, but instead to the no-man's land between him and Walton. [Post edited 12 Feb 2023 16:13]
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| I hate slagging our players off on 16:11 - Feb 12 with 904 views | DJR |
| I hate slagging our players off on 15:33 - Feb 12 by FrimleyBlue |
Looked to me that Clarke was aiming to pass it back to Walton.
What I don't get is wolfy turns, see's Walton miles away, yet he leaves it for him, almost like he thought Smith wouldn't bother going for it. |
Perhaps he could have reacted earlier but I don't think that would have made any difference because it was a perfect through ball to Smith who was advancing and facing goal, as opposed to Woolfy who was relatively static and had his back to goal. [Post edited 12 Feb 2023 16:13]
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| I hate slagging our players off on 16:15 - Feb 12 with 894 views | FrimleyBlue |
| I hate slagging our players off on 16:11 - Feb 12 by DJR |
Perhaps he could have reacted earlier but I don't think that would have made any difference because it was a perfect through ball to Smith who was advancing and facing goal, as opposed to Woolfy who was relatively static and had his back to goal. [Post edited 12 Feb 2023 16:13]
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wolfy moved out the way, that's my point, without that movement, he was favourite for the ball. Just an odd piece of movement, but as said, think he thought smith wasn't bothering.. | |
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| I hate slagging our players off on 16:30 - Feb 12 with 864 views | DJR |
| I hate slagging our players off on 16:15 - Feb 12 by FrimleyBlue |
wolfy moved out the way, that's my point, without that movement, he was favourite for the ball. Just an odd piece of movement, but as said, think he thought smith wasn't bothering.. |
We'll have to agree to disagree, but I don't think Wolfy moved out of the way because the ball was a couple of metres to his right. Woolfy did then turn and thought Walton was coming for it, but, even if he had reacted sooner, I don't think given the circumstances that he could have done much to prevent the chance because of Smith's forward momentum. | | | |
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| I hate slagging our players off on 16:35 - Feb 12 with 858 views | FrimleyBlue |
| I hate slagging our players off on 16:30 - Feb 12 by DJR |
We'll have to agree to disagree, but I don't think Wolfy moved out of the way because the ball was a couple of metres to his right. Woolfy did then turn and thought Walton was coming for it, but, even if he had reacted sooner, I don't think given the circumstances that he could have done much to prevent the chance because of Smith's forward momentum. |
1:42, clearly shows wolfy move to the left,
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| I hate slagging our players off on 16:44 - Feb 12 with 817 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| I hate slagging our players off on 16:35 - Feb 12 by FrimleyBlue |
1:42, clearly shows wolfy move to the left,
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The ball is played well behind him and he turns and then heads towards it. At that point he sees Walton charging out towards it.
The problem is that moment where Wollfenden makes the decision he has to get out of Walton's way and Walton decides Woolfenden will get there and he won't both at the same time.
None of this changes the fact that the terrible ball is played closer to the already on-rushing Smith than either of Woolfenden or Walton. If either had continued instead of pulling out, I doubt they get there before Smith. The different outcome may well have been Smith to look for contact or round the player and be left with an open goal or us to be down to 10 men. Instead, the actual outcome is Walton makes Smith take the ball wide to round him while Woolfenden gets back to cover the shot had Smith not overhit the ball to round Walton.
Ultimately, it is a terrible ball that nearly caught us out while Woolfenden and Walton did well to help make sure it didn't. The main reason it didn't is still poor control from Smith as well. |  |
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| I hate slagging our players off on 16:46 - Feb 12 with 807 views | Superblue95 |
| I hate slagging our players off on 16:35 - Feb 12 by FrimleyBlue |
1:42, clearly shows wolfy move to the left,
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Was certainly an odd movement. Stumbled maybe? |  |
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| I hate slagging our players off on 16:50 - Feb 12 with 791 views | FrimleyBlue |
| I hate slagging our players off on 16:46 - Feb 12 by Superblue95 |
Was certainly an odd movement. Stumbled maybe? |
I think Nthsuffolk has it right, Wolfy in the moment thought walton was coming so tried to get out of his way. | |
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| I hate slagging our players off on 17:52 - Feb 12 with 740 views | BlueForYou |
I’d honestly get rid of all three. None of them are up to the standard required to win games consistently & achieve things. Winning teams are mostly built on a good solid defence. |  | | |
| I hate slagging our players off on 19:14 - Feb 12 with 644 views | pointofblue |
| I hate slagging our players off on 17:52 - Feb 12 by BlueForYou |
I’d honestly get rid of all three. None of them are up to the standard required to win games consistently & achieve things. Winning teams are mostly built on a good solid defence. |
Woolfenden in particular, and I think Burgess may have been involved too, played a key part in a strong defence at the start of McKenna's reign until the Port Vale/Charlton week. The ability is there, but I think the style of play does not help the backline out - especially when we have a back three but the right sided defender decides he's a full back. | |
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| I hate slagging our players off on 09:10 - Feb 13 with 475 views | CityBlue |
I can imagine that him and Walton take the longest in choosing what to eat from a menu... |  |
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| I hate slagging our players off on 09:18 - Feb 13 with 470 views | itfcjoe |
Sitting in South stand it's not easy to get a read on CBs at other end of pitch, but thought in second half Woolfie was imperious at the back and great on and off the ball.
If he was as bad as made out, and plenty of people have said it so no reason to doubt, then a positive was he was able to turn that round for the second half |  |
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