| Who thinks 12:07 - Feb 17 with 4963 views | Bobsthename |
Mckenna will be here next season if we fail to get promotion one way or another.
I think he might be pushed. |  | | |  |
| Who thinks on 07:53 - Feb 18 with 670 views | ibbleobble |
| Who thinks on 07:43 - Feb 18 by ArnieM |
I think 100% this above ^^^^**
The owners whilst ploughing all this money in and making stadium changes etc, clearly, like us, would love promotion this season. But as I’ve said before I doubt they will have demanded / expected it to happen necessarily this season. I still say the squad needs a better set of defenders . That’s the summer project ( whether we’re up or still in league one) and as you can see from McKennas interview this week there is an ongoing development of playing style the players are still learning , which we as fans, maybe don’t appreciate.
Rome wasn’t built in a day! |
…”but they were laying bricks every hour”.
The question isn’t whether McKenna should be given a long time to establish an empire, it’s whether he’s the right man to do it and whether he’s still putting the right foundations in to build on. Arguably he’s making mistakes at the moment - how detrimental they are to building that empire is definitely worthy of scrutiny given the investment into those bricks. | | | |
| Who thinks on 08:37 - Feb 18 with 627 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Who thinks on 07:57 - Feb 18 by Stewart27 |
Moron. Town fans like you are embarrassing.
“Happy Clapper” - grow up.
There is a huge difference between being a happy clapper and giving a really good young manager a chance. What on earth do you mean by us not being a university for young managers? Sir Bobby, Sir Alf? Are you seriously not prepared to give it at least one more season?
Tell me the plan big man. Another experienced manager in the Lambert or Mick mould? |
Town fans lime you deserve a Marcus Evans' ownership.
Again, we aren't a college/university for the young managers. Our desperation is to get out of thia league. McKenna got a free pass last season, are you happy to give him yet another one? Why? Because he is calm and speaks out well?
He has been heavily backed so there is no excuses if we fail to get promoted. If he doesn't know how to unlock the defences of so called smaller clubs then let's hire someone who could do this. The issues we have had 12 months ago still persist. He has no plan B. |  | | |
| Who thinks on 08:55 - Feb 18 with 617 views | ArchiRob |
| Who thinks on 13:23 - Feb 17 by BiGDonnie |
This is the correct and only answer. |
Kinda contradictory
If the fan-base dwindles he is less likely to keep his position |  |
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| Who thinks on 08:56 - Feb 18 with 615 views | Plums |
| Who thinks on 22:46 - Feb 17 by Mach_foreignBlue |
He hasn't though since the Charlton game.......and to be more precise 12 months ago he also didn't know how to unlock the defences of so called 'smaller clubs'.
He's earned the right to make a few mistakes  oh yeah because Ipswich Town is the college/university for young managers to learn their trade.
Happy clappers ! [Post edited 17 Feb 2023 22:59]
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You've nailed it.
We are the college/ university for young managers to learn their trade. That's EXACTLY the successful model that Town have employed over the years.
Ramsey, Robson, Burley all benefitted from that approach.
If you want a revolving managerial door in the vain hope that at some point you strike lucky and it brings success, you're following the wrong club. [Post edited 18 Feb 2023 9:21]
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| Who thinks on 08:59 - Feb 18 with 600 views | ArchiRob |
I do
But what do I know I thought we would be challenging for an automatic position rather than hanging on for a playoff birth | |
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| Who thinks on 09:00 - Feb 18 with 598 views | mrfixit426 |
| Who thinks on 08:37 - Feb 18 by Mach_foreignBlue |
Town fans lime you deserve a Marcus Evans' ownership.
Again, we aren't a college/university for the young managers. Our desperation is to get out of thia league. McKenna got a free pass last season, are you happy to give him yet another one? Why? Because he is calm and speaks out well?
He has been heavily backed so there is no excuses if we fail to get promoted. If he doesn't know how to unlock the defences of so called smaller clubs then let's hire someone who could do this. The issues we have had 12 months ago still persist. He has no plan B. |
Doubling down on being a moron this morning I see.
Uses the term "happy clapper." Moron.
Uses the term "no plan B." Moron.
Why don't you check on Amazon and see if you can order a ready made football club, so you don't have to suffer the stages that lead up to success. If you have a Prime account, you can get it delivered tomorrow. |  | | |
| Who thinks on 09:00 - Feb 18 with 597 views | Bluesky |
And me |  | | |
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| Who thinks on 09:09 - Feb 18 with 578 views | AlanG296 |
| Who thinks on 08:56 - Feb 18 by Plums |
You've nailed it.
We are the college/ university for young managers to learn their trade. That's EXACTLY the successful model that Town have employed over the years.
Ramsey, Robson, Burley all benefitted from that approach.
If you want a revolving managerial door in the vain hope that at some point you strike lucky and it brings success, you're following the wrong club. [Post edited 18 Feb 2023 9:21]
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Difference now is that the current manager has resources and support in the club thanks to the owners that neither of our great managers, Alf and Bobby ever had. They did not have the advantages over their opposition that the current manager has over his. Judge the current manager on what he achieves in the third tier this season. | | | |
| Who thinks on 09:20 - Feb 18 with 568 views | Plums |
| Who thinks on 09:09 - Feb 18 by AlanG296 |
Difference now is that the current manager has resources and support in the club thanks to the owners that neither of our great managers, Alf and Bobby ever had. They did not have the advantages over their opposition that the current manager has over his. Judge the current manager on what he achieves in the third tier this season. |
I find this viewpoint understandable but also deeply, deeply flawed.
As an example, I'm going to assume you can drive, I'm going to be gracious and say you might even be pretty good at it and show a lot of promise. You've worked with a couple of pro drivers too.
Now, I'm going to put you in a racing car, with the best pit crew, excellent financial backing and all the resources you need to be successful.
Am I right to expect you to win the championship in the first season - given your lack of experience?
Should I fire you because you manage to win 3 races but finish on the podium in some others?
The point I'm trying to make (probably badly) is that this isn't Football Manager, there isn't an algorithm which determines success, there are humans involved - who need to learn - together as a team, led by a manager who is also learning. I'm definitely up for being part of that but it seems some others only want to be for the good bits.
Get behind the team, the manager, the club we all profess to love and together we'll come good. And when we do, it will be huge. [Post edited 18 Feb 2023 9:22]
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| Who thinks on 09:30 - Feb 18 with 553 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Who thinks on 08:56 - Feb 18 by Plums |
You've nailed it.
We are the college/ university for young managers to learn their trade. That's EXACTLY the successful model that Town have employed over the years.
Ramsey, Robson, Burley all benefitted from that approach.
If you want a revolving managerial door in the vain hope that at some point you strike lucky and it brings success, you're following the wrong club. [Post edited 18 Feb 2023 9:21]
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We are Ipswich Town. Not the university for managers to develop themselves.
This manager doesn't even learn. The problems we have had 12 months ago still exist.
The owners have heavily backed him. All managers in this league would love to have backing he's had. What else does he need? More money? More transfer windows?
Failure to win promotion means he will have to go. | | | |
| Who thinks on 09:37 - Feb 18 with 551 views | mrfixit426 |
| Who thinks on 09:30 - Feb 18 by Mach_foreignBlue |
We are Ipswich Town. Not the university for managers to develop themselves.
This manager doesn't even learn. The problems we have had 12 months ago still exist.
The owners have heavily backed him. All managers in this league would love to have backing he's had. What else does he need? More money? More transfer windows?
Failure to win promotion means he will have to go. |
“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
― Mark Twain
On ignore you go. | | | |
| Who thinks on 09:41 - Feb 18 with 539 views | chicoazul |
Truly tragic to still see so many Ipswich fans think failure is a form of success.
You build toward something, not as an end in itself.
Let’s get relegated again and reset like so many people suggested 4 years ago, that worked really well. Every little thing is gonna be alright. [Post edited 18 Feb 2023 9:59]
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| Who thinks on 09:51 - Feb 18 with 519 views | AlanG296 |
| Who thinks on 09:20 - Feb 18 by Plums |
I find this viewpoint understandable but also deeply, deeply flawed.
As an example, I'm going to assume you can drive, I'm going to be gracious and say you might even be pretty good at it and show a lot of promise. You've worked with a couple of pro drivers too.
Now, I'm going to put you in a racing car, with the best pit crew, excellent financial backing and all the resources you need to be successful.
Am I right to expect you to win the championship in the first season - given your lack of experience?
Should I fire you because you manage to win 3 races but finish on the podium in some others?
The point I'm trying to make (probably badly) is that this isn't Football Manager, there isn't an algorithm which determines success, there are humans involved - who need to learn - together as a team, led by a manager who is also learning. I'm definitely up for being part of that but it seems some others only want to be for the good bits.
Get behind the team, the manager, the club we all profess to love and together we'll come good. And when we do, it will be huge. [Post edited 18 Feb 2023 9:22]
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I might agree with some of what you say, if the current manager was actually showing signs that he was learning about managing in the third tier and putting that learning into practice. However he hasn't, he's wedded to his beliefs, engrained in him through his experience of development coaching at high level premier league clubs and first team coaching for failing managers at one of those clubs. He's now working with players of lesser ability against teams who use different tactics than he had against him elsewhere. He had a very good start when he came here which faded as some teams worked out how to play against us. Same this season. Bottom line, if we're a training school and the trainee is not showing that he's learning, what's he here for. He's here for the club's benefit, not his. | | | |
| Who thinks on 09:58 - Feb 18 with 497 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Who thinks on 09:37 - Feb 18 by mrfixit426 |
“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
― Mark Twain
On ignore you go. |
Bet you were one of those happy clappers who applauded and clapped off the relegation after the Birmingham game. | | | |
| Who thinks on 10:00 - Feb 18 with 494 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Who thinks on 09:41 - Feb 18 by chicoazul |
Truly tragic to still see so many Ipswich fans think failure is a form of success.
You build toward something, not as an end in itself.
Let’s get relegated again and reset like so many people suggested 4 years ago, that worked really well. Every little thing is gonna be alright. [Post edited 18 Feb 2023 9:59]
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A failure is acceptable and some form of success.
Marcus Evans' school isn't it? He has brainwashed so many. | | | |
| Who thinks on 10:09 - Feb 18 with 474 views | cressi |
| Who thinks on 10:00 - Feb 18 by Mach_foreignBlue |
A failure is acceptable and some form of success.
Marcus Evans' school isn't it? He has brainwashed so many. |
The days of Robson ,Ferguson getting time are long gone I'm afraid even Ipswich last few yrs have had more managers than probably the last 30 yrs before that | | | |
| Who thinks on 10:18 - Feb 18 with 464 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Who thinks on 10:09 - Feb 18 by cressi |
The days of Robson ,Ferguson getting time are long gone I'm afraid even Ipswich last few yrs have had more managers than probably the last 30 yrs before that |
These ex-managers you have mentioned. They hadn't had such a backing from the owners that McKenna has. | | | |
| Who thinks on 10:27 - Feb 18 with 452 views | Plums |
| Who thinks on 10:18 - Feb 18 by Mach_foreignBlue |
These ex-managers you have mentioned. They hadn't had such a backing from the owners that McKenna has. |
I think you'll find they did. Not in monetary terms but absolutely in other ways.
Football's a people business. Get it wrong as Evans did so frequently and you're on a hiding to nothing. | |
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| Who thinks on 13:39 - Feb 18 with 411 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Who thinks on 09:30 - Feb 18 by Mach_foreignBlue |
We are Ipswich Town. Not the university for managers to develop themselves.
This manager doesn't even learn. The problems we have had 12 months ago still exist.
The owners have heavily backed him. All managers in this league would love to have backing he's had. What else does he need? More money? More transfer windows?
Failure to win promotion means he will have to go. |
Why stop with the manager? The players have let us down too. And Ashton and O'Leary. And in appointing them so have GameChanger. We need a buyout with Qatari-level investment and ruthlessness, a new CEO who won't say nice things, a new manager under the age of 50 but with at least 10 promotions from EFL divisions under his belt, who always plays attractive football and is not at all like Mick McCarthy. We then need to sack all of the players and start afresh with a team full of experienced pros who can win League 1 and the Championship and will never have an injury between them.
It is so obvious really. If only the happy clappers could stop supporting everyone involved in the club! You have me convinced Mach.
McKenna Out!
Ashton Out!
O'Leary Out!
GameChanger Out!
Boo Morsy
Boo Burns
Boo Walton
Boo Donacien
Boo Woolfenden
Boo Humphreys
Boo Ladapo
Boo Chaplin
Boo Broadhead
Boo Town! |  |
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| Who thinks on 13:40 - Feb 18 with 405 views | leitrimblue |
| Who thinks on 13:39 - Feb 18 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Why stop with the manager? The players have let us down too. And Ashton and O'Leary. And in appointing them so have GameChanger. We need a buyout with Qatari-level investment and ruthlessness, a new CEO who won't say nice things, a new manager under the age of 50 but with at least 10 promotions from EFL divisions under his belt, who always plays attractive football and is not at all like Mick McCarthy. We then need to sack all of the players and start afresh with a team full of experienced pros who can win League 1 and the Championship and will never have an injury between them.
It is so obvious really. If only the happy clappers could stop supporting everyone involved in the club! You have me convinced Mach.
McKenna Out!
Ashton Out!
O'Leary Out!
GameChanger Out!
Boo Morsy
Boo Burns
Boo Walton
Boo Donacien
Boo Woolfenden
Boo Humphreys
Boo Ladapo
Boo Chaplin
Boo Broadhead
Boo Town! |
Wow, that's a tad over the top  |  | | |
| Who thinks on 13:42 - Feb 18 with 400 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Who thinks on 13:40 - Feb 18 by leitrimblue |
Wow, that's a tad over the top |
Just the last line? | |
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| Who thinks on 13:47 - Feb 18 with 384 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
He'll start the season but reckon he'll be gone if we don't look up to it pretty quick or we see another facing away.
I'm usually for giving managers time and I don't see that Kenny doesn't deserve that either assuming we at least make the POS |  |
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| Who thinks on 13:53 - Feb 18 with 365 views | leitrimblue |
Yer, was perfect til then | | | |
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