| "Relegation might not be the worst thing..." 10:50 - May 1 with 4015 views | blaggers |
I'm sure many of us remember when realistically we were treading water in the Championship, with us trying to get enthusiastic over the latest free signing that the club would announce - then as it became clear that we were going down, the debate ensued about relegation giving us time to rebuild. I would suggest that in the long run going down to L1 has been actually a positive thing for the club. New owners, infrastructure, a vision, a plan, and more importantly a chance for the fan base to prove that we care about the club and its direction. Apathy has been replaced by passion, I've not seen this much of a connection between the club and the community in my 25 years of going to the games.
I remember McCarthy saying that the results would determine the crowd numbers, at a time when we were pulling crowds of 15k, but it's not been about that, has it - it's that we can now identify with and relate to the guys on the pitch, to see a club that gives back to the community it serves, and in return the team gets a level of support that inspires them.
So what do you think, with hindsight and all that - was going down to L1 right thing for the club? |  |
| |  |
| "Relegation might not be the worst thing..." on 15:41 - May 1 with 782 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
We hoped for an instant reset and it didn't come.
The big thing that has changed our fortunes is the takeover and the fact that the new owners are running us well.
Would that have happened without relegation? Probably not.
Could we have reset from where we are had the takeover not happened? Probably not.
So, in short, yes but only because of the takeover. |  |
| |
| "Relegation might not be the worst thing..." on 15:46 - May 1 with 774 views | Kropotkin123 |
Without wanting to stir up old arguments, yes, I believe taking a few steps back has allowed us to take more forward. We needed Evans to leave, and I don't think he would have left in the Championship. I believe he would have overvalued us and put off investment.
Now we are out of "this terrible league where we don't belong" and in the Championship, we need to get out of this terrible league where we don't belong. |  |
| Submit your 1-24 league prediction here -https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/514096/page:1 - for the opportunity to get a free Ipswich top. | | Poll: | Would you rather | | Blog: | Round Four: Eagle |
| |
| "Relegation might not be the worst thing..." on 16:32 - May 1 with 733 views | Mullet |
| "Relegation might not be the worst thing..." on 14:17 - May 1 by blaggers |
I doubt we would have got GC20 if we'd been a close to a top 6 Champ team. Evans would have been quite happy for his managers to work miracles, pulling rabbits out of hats.
Our odds of going up next year are shorter than they've been for 10 years. |
That's all true and completely ignores everything I said, or the reality of years down here.
The idea that we can only have gotten GC is clearly nonsense. The fact that anyone could have come in at any time, is demonstrated across the top divisions. Even at the last minute Evans didn't want to sell, so it'd have had to have been someone even richer and perhaps more ill-suited than GC, but that's a different argument.
Far too many people weren't blaming Evans, nor early enough don't forget. |  |
| |
| "Relegation might not be the worst thing..." on 20:53 - May 1 with 657 views | Guthrum |
| "Relegation might not be the worst thing..." on 15:34 - May 1 by bluestandard |
No, I can’t see this logic. The club needed change from the top down. That’s obvious to everyone now more than ever. The only thing which was ever going to bring about that change unfortunately was a step backwards. You’re arguing that it might have been two steps backwards, but the fact remains that this was the only thing which could bring about the change the club has desperately needed for 20 years let’s not forget. I don’t agree that we experienced ‘unnecessary difficulties and humiliation’. In your analogy, we’d still be waiting to cross the road, with no hope of ever getting to the other side.
Also, I see a lot of people saying ‘move on’ etc. We can all move on now, especially those who can feel vindicated for their opposition to the Evans era, and if they want to express that now, where’s the harm? Next season that really will all be ancient history. |
I disagree. If we'd taken a step up instead of down (e.g. had we won the Championship play-offs), then there is every chance Evans would have sold up at that point, too. |  |
| |
| "Relegation might not be the worst thing..." on 22:38 - May 1 with 611 views | Stewart27 |
I think with the benefit of foresight we saw what was happening to us in the championship. It was death by 1000 paper cuts and there was only one league we were heading towards.
When the inevitable did happen, had the poisonous Evans remained at the club I think we may have been dancing with the likes of Colchester again. So at that point league one wasn’t fun.
Would Gamechanger have created the magic in the Championship for us? Probably not. So now with the benefit of hindsight I’d say it’s been a worthwhile experience. Just one I never want to go through again. |  | | |
| "Relegation might not be the worst thing..." on 06:09 - May 2 with 577 views | chicoazul |
| "Relegation might not be the worst thing..." on 15:18 - May 1 by positivity |
we were a knight dying in his suit of armour in the championship for the last few years too! |
This is true.
But getting relegated to the third division was a disaster and as Mullet says a stain on our proud history. It should never have happened. |  |
| |
| "Relegation might not be the worst thing..." on 07:04 - May 2 with 562 views | PioneerBlue |
I feel it was the necessary pain required to start a reset at itfc. GC20 went for itfc as a distressed asset, not a failing championship asset, it would likely have given ME an inflated sense of fair value. In this sense, they way we are set now and what we have experienced has been worth the earlier pain by comparison to treading water in the Championship under ME and his managers.
It’s taken too long but now we are back at T2 we must remain humble. We have recent experience of how much of a money absorbing quagmire the Championship can be. It is competitive and not easy to get out of.
Our hope is now that momentum carries for current players and they make the leap, the club leadership continue making good investment decisions and the coaching staff continue learning quickly and their methods work at the next level. There are again a lot of hopes in there.
I am very optimistic for the immediate future, if we can’t do this in 2 jumps we will need fans to remain patient and onboard over the next 2-3 years. At best it’s 1 season, it could very easily take more to get ourselves in a place to genuinely compete for the next promotion. | |
| |
| |
By continuing to use the site, you agree to our use of cookies and to abide by our Terms and Conditions.
