| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old 14:31 - Sep 10 with 7407 views | giant_stow |
about to learn that bit of history?
I use to love them, but my minds gone blank - I can only think of Where Eagles Dare, Battle of Medway, Guns of Navarone.... |  |
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| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 11:31 - Sep 11 with 1308 views | Churchman |
| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 10:53 - Sep 11 by DinDjarin |
The Longest Day
Battle Of Britain
Dambusters
Bridge Too Far
Tora Tora Tora |
An interesting nugget of info about the film Battle of Britain is that more than one BoB veteran did some of the flying sequences. Take a bow Ginger Lacey and I think Adolf Sailor Malan.
The filming of the flying sequences were mostly done in Spain, though some in the U.K. mostly from an old B25 and proved incredibly difficult to do. The lessons learned were used in Tora Tora Tora. The fact is that films like this cannot be made now. Flight rules wouldn’t allow the aircraft to get so close, which is the only way to make them look bigger than dots.
Lastly, the Ju87 Stuka in the Battle of Britain museum was going to be used for filming, but the cost of getting it airworthy proved too much so sadly they had to use models - and it shows.
CGI these days is great, but it’s still not like the real thing. |  | | |
| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 11:51 - Sep 11 with 1281 views | J4ck22 |
It's a difficult one as modern war films tend to be a bit morbid for a 10 year old, so probably better off with the older ones as long as they can appreciate the limitations of those films. The colourised documentary series you can find on Netflix would probably be a good shout as well.
That being said, Band of Brothers is a must watch series. Blows anything else out of the water. |  | | |
| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 12:13 - Sep 11 with 1267 views | Keno |
| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 11:51 - Sep 11 by J4ck22 |
It's a difficult one as modern war films tend to be a bit morbid for a 10 year old, so probably better off with the older ones as long as they can appreciate the limitations of those films. The colourised documentary series you can find on Netflix would probably be a good shout as well.
That being said, Band of Brothers is a must watch series. Blows anything else out of the water. |
There's that documentary series about the French resistance set in a cafe, that might be worth a go |  |
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| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 12:17 - Sep 11 with 1260 views | ElephantintheRoom |
| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 11:31 - Sep 11 by Churchman |
An interesting nugget of info about the film Battle of Britain is that more than one BoB veteran did some of the flying sequences. Take a bow Ginger Lacey and I think Adolf Sailor Malan.
The filming of the flying sequences were mostly done in Spain, though some in the U.K. mostly from an old B25 and proved incredibly difficult to do. The lessons learned were used in Tora Tora Tora. The fact is that films like this cannot be made now. Flight rules wouldn’t allow the aircraft to get so close, which is the only way to make them look bigger than dots.
Lastly, the Ju87 Stuka in the Battle of Britain museum was going to be used for filming, but the cost of getting it airworthy proved too much so sadly they had to use models - and it shows.
CGI these days is great, but it’s still not like the real thing. |
Another interesting fact is the film crew did more damage to Duxford in a few weeks than the Luftwaffe managed in the entire war. The special effects went a bit awry and destroyed an entire hangar. The Luftwaffe by contrast only managed to drop two bombs on the airfield in the entire war - one of which rather ironically landed in a bomb shelter and killed a couple of Czech pilots.
There was a good reason much of the flying was done in Spain - the Spanish Air Force were still using WW2 aircraft in the 60s - though the Spanish built ME 109s had Merlin engines. | |
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| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 12:41 - Sep 11 with 1241 views | Churchman |
| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 12:17 - Sep 11 by ElephantintheRoom |
Another interesting fact is the film crew did more damage to Duxford in a few weeks than the Luftwaffe managed in the entire war. The special effects went a bit awry and destroyed an entire hangar. The Luftwaffe by contrast only managed to drop two bombs on the airfield in the entire war - one of which rather ironically landed in a bomb shelter and killed a couple of Czech pilots.
There was a good reason much of the flying was done in Spain - the Spanish Air Force were still using WW2 aircraft in the 60s - though the Spanish built ME 109s had Merlin engines. |
I thought the hanger demolition was planned. It was certainly filmed from all angles.
The ‘German’ aircraft were indeed Spanish CASA 2 111s and HA 1112s, based on He111 Hs and Bf109Gs re-engined with Merlins and in service in Spain well into the 1960s. There were bought by the well known WW2 RAF Bomber Command pilot Hamish Mahaddie.
There were no Do17Zs left or Ju88s, Bf110s or Ju87s in flying condition so they went with the HAs and CASAs. It was a remarkable achievement as leave it a year and there would have been no aircraft to buy.
On the British side, there were Spitfires of different marks available but only 3 airworthy Hurricanes - a bit of a shame as Hurricanes took 2/3s of the load during the battle. There were no Defiants either, though that didn’t matter as their role was minor (2 squadrons) and catastrophic.
One of the reasons Spain was used was guaranteed weather. They had a limited budget and time for filming. Advisors included Dowding, Bob Tuck, Lacey, Bader (who was as obnoxious as ever) and Galland for the German angle. The latter not only flew the two seat Buchon with Tuck in the back but another one across the airfield upside down at 50ft. Fighter pilots will be fighter pilots! | | | |
| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 12:50 - Sep 11 with 1228 views | Keno |
| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 12:41 - Sep 11 by Churchman |
I thought the hanger demolition was planned. It was certainly filmed from all angles.
The ‘German’ aircraft were indeed Spanish CASA 2 111s and HA 1112s, based on He111 Hs and Bf109Gs re-engined with Merlins and in service in Spain well into the 1960s. There were bought by the well known WW2 RAF Bomber Command pilot Hamish Mahaddie.
There were no Do17Zs left or Ju88s, Bf110s or Ju87s in flying condition so they went with the HAs and CASAs. It was a remarkable achievement as leave it a year and there would have been no aircraft to buy.
On the British side, there were Spitfires of different marks available but only 3 airworthy Hurricanes - a bit of a shame as Hurricanes took 2/3s of the load during the battle. There were no Defiants either, though that didn’t matter as their role was minor (2 squadrons) and catastrophic.
One of the reasons Spain was used was guaranteed weather. They had a limited budget and time for filming. Advisors included Dowding, Bob Tuck, Lacey, Bader (who was as obnoxious as ever) and Galland for the German angle. The latter not only flew the two seat Buchon with Tuck in the back but another one across the airfield upside down at 50ft. Fighter pilots will be fighter pilots! |
Be careful what you say about Bader, if it ends up in court you wouldnt have a leg to stand on | |
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| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 12:54 - Sep 11 with 1221 views | Plums |
| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 21:33 - Sep 10 by Churchman |
You’d deny a 10 year old the excitement of ‘Broadsword calling Danny Boy’, the mush falling off the cable car and Clint mowing down 100s of Germans? Cruel. |
Derren Nesbitt was the special guest at WHW Fest on Saturday. You'd have loved it! |  |
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| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 12:56 - Sep 11 with 1215 views | ElephantintheRoom |
| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 12:41 - Sep 11 by Churchman |
I thought the hanger demolition was planned. It was certainly filmed from all angles.
The ‘German’ aircraft were indeed Spanish CASA 2 111s and HA 1112s, based on He111 Hs and Bf109Gs re-engined with Merlins and in service in Spain well into the 1960s. There were bought by the well known WW2 RAF Bomber Command pilot Hamish Mahaddie.
There were no Do17Zs left or Ju88s, Bf110s or Ju87s in flying condition so they went with the HAs and CASAs. It was a remarkable achievement as leave it a year and there would have been no aircraft to buy.
On the British side, there were Spitfires of different marks available but only 3 airworthy Hurricanes - a bit of a shame as Hurricanes took 2/3s of the load during the battle. There were no Defiants either, though that didn’t matter as their role was minor (2 squadrons) and catastrophic.
One of the reasons Spain was used was guaranteed weather. They had a limited budget and time for filming. Advisors included Dowding, Bob Tuck, Lacey, Bader (who was as obnoxious as ever) and Galland for the German angle. The latter not only flew the two seat Buchon with Tuck in the back but another one across the airfield upside down at 50ft. Fighter pilots will be fighter pilots! |
The demolition certainly wasn’t planned - just a cock up.
There were no airworthy Mk1 Spitfires at the time of filming so the RAF was flying some late variants - though not quite as ridiculous as in Reach For the Sky.
Once filming had finished they couldn’t get rid of the spitfires and Buchons - one Texan pilot took a number of planes in lieu of payment. I think they were valued at £500 at the time. They spent a few decades in storage in Texas and he was hawking them around Europe without much success a few years ago.
Bonhams recently tried flogging a Spitfire at Goodwood - it reached £3.2 million but didn’t reach the reserve. | |
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| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 12:59 - Sep 11 with 1213 views | BloomBlue |
The Longest Day |  | | |
| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 12:59 - Sep 11 with 1213 views | Plums |
Operation Mincemeat will fire the imagination.
It's a 12A and recent so has references they will understand. It's a little economic with the facts and possibly overplays the importance of the operation but I think it'd be a good entry point. | |
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| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 13:02 - Sep 11 with 1210 views | Churchman |
| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 12:50 - Sep 11 by Keno |
Be careful what you say about Bader, if it ends up in court you wouldnt have a leg to stand on |
No, don’t want to put my foot in it.
The other guys didn’t mind him. He was actually friends with them. Curious character Douglas Bader. Impossibly brave, obviously a brilliant pilot he was very ‘marmite’ amongst fellow pilots and later prisoners in Colditz. Liked and detested in equal measure. But he was not alone in that.
As a tactician he was a big proponent of ‘Big Wing’ tactics, supported by 12 Group’s Trafford Leigh-Mallory. Now there was a detested man. These tactics really didn’t work because of the time it took to assemble squadrons. Interesting character, but a little different to how Kenneth More played him in Reach for the Sky. | | | |
| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 13:07 - Sep 11 with 1204 views | Plums |
| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 13:02 - Sep 11 by Churchman |
No, don’t want to put my foot in it.
The other guys didn’t mind him. He was actually friends with them. Curious character Douglas Bader. Impossibly brave, obviously a brilliant pilot he was very ‘marmite’ amongst fellow pilots and later prisoners in Colditz. Liked and detested in equal measure. But he was not alone in that.
As a tactician he was a big proponent of ‘Big Wing’ tactics, supported by 12 Group’s Trafford Leigh-Mallory. Now there was a detested man. These tactics really didn’t work because of the time it took to assemble squadrons. Interesting character, but a little different to how Kenneth More played him in Reach for the Sky. |
I have a signed photo of Bader, courtesy of my grandfather who met him on several occasions. Definitely a Marmite man! | |
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| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 13:09 - Sep 11 with 1203 views | Perublue |
Hannibal Brooks … ? Disney style but darker Brit made product. |  |
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| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 13:21 - Sep 11 with 1186 views | Churchman |
| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 12:56 - Sep 11 by ElephantintheRoom |
The demolition certainly wasn’t planned - just a cock up.
There were no airworthy Mk1 Spitfires at the time of filming so the RAF was flying some late variants - though not quite as ridiculous as in Reach For the Sky.
Once filming had finished they couldn’t get rid of the spitfires and Buchons - one Texan pilot took a number of planes in lieu of payment. I think they were valued at £500 at the time. They spent a few decades in storage in Texas and he was hawking them around Europe without much success a few years ago.
Bonhams recently tried flogging a Spitfire at Goodwood - it reached £3.2 million but didn’t reach the reserve. |
According to IWM it was deliberately destroyed.
https://www.iwm.org.uk/file-download/download/public/9980
The Buchons and other aircraft were collected by Wilson ‘Connie’ Edwards who worked on the film. They were stored in Texas and sold/dispersed for restoration and museum after the death of his son. He had planned to gift the collection to him. He died in 2019..
https://warbirdsnews.com/warbirds-news/wilson-connie-edwards.html
For those interested in the construction of these aircraft, particularly Spitfires, I recommend a tour of the Heritage Hanger at Biggin Hill. I’m not surprised at the value of a Spitfire (MH415 was the one for sale). A recon Merlin engine costs is about £1m. By comparison a Daimler-Benz Messerschmitt engine - £5m. That’s rarity for you. | | | |
| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 13:33 - Sep 11 with 1177 views | BondiBlue |
What do you want to focus on? The history (what happened when) or how horrible war is? Older films do the history well and skip past the horrors. Battle of britain, a bridge too far and the longest day were my favourites. The newer ones zero in a bit more on the soldier's experience and tell a much more personal story. The opening 5 mins of saving private ryan will knock his socks off and the concentration camp episode of band of brothers will get him asking a few questions. If he loves adventure, get him reading the alistair maclean books - where eagles dare, guns of the navarone etc. I always thought the books were way better than the movies. | |
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| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 13:34 - Sep 11 with 1176 views | Plums |
| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 13:21 - Sep 11 by Churchman |
According to IWM it was deliberately destroyed.
https://www.iwm.org.uk/file-download/download/public/9980
The Buchons and other aircraft were collected by Wilson ‘Connie’ Edwards who worked on the film. They were stored in Texas and sold/dispersed for restoration and museum after the death of his son. He had planned to gift the collection to him. He died in 2019..
https://warbirdsnews.com/warbirds-news/wilson-connie-edwards.html
For those interested in the construction of these aircraft, particularly Spitfires, I recommend a tour of the Heritage Hanger at Biggin Hill. I’m not surprised at the value of a Spitfire (MH415 was the one for sale). A recon Merlin engine costs is about £1m. By comparison a Daimler-Benz Messerschmitt engine - £5m. That’s rarity for you. |
Can I add for anyone who's interested in the aircraft that won the war (puts tin hat on), these guys need to raise £9m and every penny helps
https://www.peoplesmosquito.org.uk/ | |
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| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 14:32 - Sep 11 with 1132 views | ElephantintheRoom |
| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 13:33 - Sep 11 by BondiBlue |
What do you want to focus on? The history (what happened when) or how horrible war is? Older films do the history well and skip past the horrors. Battle of britain, a bridge too far and the longest day were my favourites. The newer ones zero in a bit more on the soldier's experience and tell a much more personal story. The opening 5 mins of saving private ryan will knock his socks off and the concentration camp episode of band of brothers will get him asking a few questions. If he loves adventure, get him reading the alistair maclean books - where eagles dare, guns of the navarone etc. I always thought the books were way better than the movies. |
If we’re including films made from books The Eagle Has Landed takes some beating. Michael Caine playing a German, Donald Sutherland pretending to be Irish, Jenny Agutter AND JR Ewing all in one movie.
Cross of Iron is worth a watch as well as it overs where WW22 was won and lost - on the Eastern Front
Did anyone mention The Great Escape? | |
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| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 14:36 - Sep 11 with 1122 views | Perublue |
| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 14:32 - Sep 11 by ElephantintheRoom |
If we’re including films made from books The Eagle Has Landed takes some beating. Michael Caine playing a German, Donald Sutherland pretending to be Irish, Jenny Agutter AND JR Ewing all in one movie.
Cross of Iron is worth a watch as well as it overs where WW22 was won and lost - on the Eastern Front
Did anyone mention The Great Escape? |
i imagine you would be interested in the Hannibal Elephas maximus film ? | |
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| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 14:36 - Sep 11 with 1120 views | ElephantintheRoom |
| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 13:34 - Sep 11 by Plums |
Can I add for anyone who's interested in the aircraft that won the war (puts tin hat on), these guys need to raise £9m and every penny helps
https://www.peoplesmosquito.org.uk/ |
Just after the Mosquito’s finest hours (633 Sauadron and Mosquito Squadron) it was possible to see three mosquitos flying at the early Duxford air shows
One of the 633 Squardon veterans is now hanging in Airspace, rather disgracefully painted as a target tug in which guise it last served. | |
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| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 14:39 - Sep 11 with 1114 views | Perublue |
Some alternative history options...The man in the high castle,Overlord,inglorius bastereds [Post edited 11 Sep 2023 14:40]
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| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 14:54 - Sep 11 with 1105 views | ElephantintheRoom |
| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 13:21 - Sep 11 by Churchman |
According to IWM it was deliberately destroyed.
https://www.iwm.org.uk/file-download/download/public/9980
The Buchons and other aircraft were collected by Wilson ‘Connie’ Edwards who worked on the film. They were stored in Texas and sold/dispersed for restoration and museum after the death of his son. He had planned to gift the collection to him. He died in 2019..
https://warbirdsnews.com/warbirds-news/wilson-connie-edwards.html
For those interested in the construction of these aircraft, particularly Spitfires, I recommend a tour of the Heritage Hanger at Biggin Hill. I’m not surprised at the value of a Spitfire (MH415 was the one for sale). A recon Merlin engine costs is about £1m. By comparison a Daimler-Benz Messerschmitt engine - £5m. That’s rarity for you. |
You see to be something of a plane buff.
Care to hazard a guess (or well-informed answer) to this old chestnut….
What feat has been achieved by at least five Luftwaffe pilots - and by pilots from the USA, Pakistan, Viêt Nam, Iran, Iraq, Israel…and even Ethiopia - but never by an RAF pilot? | |
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| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 15:19 - Sep 11 with 1092 views | Churchman |
| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 14:32 - Sep 11 by ElephantintheRoom |
If we’re including films made from books The Eagle Has Landed takes some beating. Michael Caine playing a German, Donald Sutherland pretending to be Irish, Jenny Agutter AND JR Ewing all in one movie.
Cross of Iron is worth a watch as well as it overs where WW22 was won and lost - on the Eastern Front
Did anyone mention The Great Escape? |
Second paragraph: not accurate. It fails to recognise that without huge allied material support, Russia would probably have lost. That’s before the war conducted by the the allies against Germany. | | | |
| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 15:34 - Sep 11 with 1079 views | Churchman |
| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 13:34 - Sep 11 by Plums |
Can I add for anyone who's interested in the aircraft that won the war (puts tin hat on), these guys need to raise £9m and every penny helps
https://www.peoplesmosquito.org.uk/ |
It was certainly one of the aircraft that won the war. It was truly remarkable. There was little interest in it at first. Beaverbrook wanted to concentrate on existing types, but De Havillands persisted knowing it had potential. When the Air ministry bods saw it flying, they did too. Night fighter, intruder, bomber, ship attack, pathfinder it could do the lot.
It was a bit of a handful to fly and only the best were posted to fly it. What an aeroplane. Looked the dogs wotsits too. | | | |
| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 15:43 - Sep 11 with 1063 views | Churchman |
| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 14:54 - Sep 11 by ElephantintheRoom |
You see to be something of a plane buff.
Care to hazard a guess (or well-informed answer) to this old chestnut….
What feat has been achieved by at least five Luftwaffe pilots - and by pilots from the USA, Pakistan, Viêt Nam, Iran, Iraq, Israel…and even Ethiopia - but never by an RAF pilot? |
No idea. More than five jet kills? | | | |
| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 15:51 - Sep 11 with 1056 views | Perublue |
| Best ww2 films for a 10 year old on 14:54 - Sep 11 by ElephantintheRoom |
You see to be something of a plane buff.
Care to hazard a guess (or well-informed answer) to this old chestnut….
What feat has been achieved by at least five Luftwaffe pilots - and by pilots from the USA, Pakistan, Viêt Nam, Iran, Iraq, Israel…and even Ethiopia - but never by an RAF pilot? |
Became presidents or prime ministers ? | |
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