| With the brilliant news today about Kieron Dyer... 20:11 - Oct 5 with 3034 views | BlueBadger |
...a reminder to you all that, yes, you don't need to be a registered donor, but it will help your family and medical professionals in the event of something awful happening to you and will make upsetting conversations much less painful as well as easing the process of your final act of kindness.
https://www.organdonation.nhs.uk/helping-you-to-decide/about-organ-donation/nhs-
/edit - Phi/Gav, feel free to edit if you feel that doesn't entirely fit as a 'football' thread. [Post edited 6 Oct 2023 7:06]
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| With the brilliant news today about Kieron Dyer... on 20:17 - Oct 5 with 2922 views | FrimleyBlue |
BB. Am I right in thinking they changed the rules in the last year or so, in that everyone is a donor unless you specifically state otherwise? |  |
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| With the brilliant news today about Kieron Dyer... on 20:19 - Oct 5 with 2912 views | BlueBadger |
| With the brilliant news today about Kieron Dyer... on 20:17 - Oct 5 by FrimleyBlue |
BB. Am I right in thinking they changed the rules in the last year or so, in that everyone is a donor unless you specifically state otherwise? |
Strictly speaking, yes. But in practice it is highly unlikely that organ donation will go ahead without the goodwill of next of kin.
What the law basically means is that we get to refer likely donors to the organ transplant service(so preliminaries can be done in a more timely fashion) earlier as we don't have to get advance consent for a referral to be made. | |
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| With the brilliant news today about Kieron Dyer... on 20:21 - Oct 5 with 2888 views | FrimleyBlue |
| With the brilliant news today about Kieron Dyer... on 20:19 - Oct 5 by BlueBadger |
Strictly speaking, yes. But in practice it is highly unlikely that organ donation will go ahead without the goodwill of next of kin.
What the law basically means is that we get to refer likely donors to the organ transplant service(so preliminaries can be done in a more timely fashion) earlier as we don't have to get advance consent for a referral to be made. |
Thanks. Hadn't signed up due thinking that, So good to know
We sign up.
Thankfully brain isn't something to be donated. Poor fella who'd get that eh. Lol. | |
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| With the brilliant news today about Kieron Dyer... on 20:27 - Oct 5 with 2873 views | Illinoisblue |
Did I read it right, and that KD was admitted to hospital for three months before the transplant? Is that normal? |  |
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| With the brilliant news today about Kieron Dyer... on 20:32 - Oct 5 with 2873 views | BlueBadger |
| With the brilliant news today about Kieron Dyer... on 20:27 - Oct 5 by Illinoisblue |
Did I read it right, and that KD was admitted to hospital for three months before the transplant? Is that normal? |
Liver medicine is complicated. Particularly if you're essentially supporting a failing (or failed) organ - liver failure can(and does) compromise a lot of organs very quickly and it can be a real effort to get someone fit to even stand and walk about, let alone for a 5+ hour surgery and post-operative intensive care stay(you need to be FIT to survive an ITU admission).
Plus, there's a LOT of work-up and clinical hoops to jump through before you're even admitted to the waiting list. [Post edited 5 Oct 2023 21:59]
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| With the brilliant news today about Kieron Dyer... on 21:18 - Oct 5 with 2718 views | Keno |
| With the brilliant news today about Kieron Dyer... on 21:04 - Oct 5 by Fixed_It |
So you don't want him as a client even if he needs your financial advice, Keno? That's not very nice!
But yes - full of admiration for the work Badger and his colleagues do. I just wish that the powers that be would appreciate them more... [Post edited 5 Oct 2023 21:05]
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Ha! Good point well made |  |
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| With the brilliant news today about Kieron Dyer... on 22:03 - Oct 5 with 2656 views | PhilTWTD |
| With the brilliant news today about Kieron Dyer... on 20:32 - Oct 5 by BlueBadger |
Liver medicine is complicated. Particularly if you're essentially supporting a failing (or failed) organ - liver failure can(and does) compromise a lot of organs very quickly and it can be a real effort to get someone fit to even stand and walk about, let alone for a 5+ hour surgery and post-operative intensive care stay(you need to be FIT to survive an ITU admission).
Plus, there's a LOT of work-up and clinical hoops to jump through before you're even admitted to the waiting list. [Post edited 5 Oct 2023 21:59]
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HIs liver basically packed up, hence the long spell in hospital. He was on the priority list from there having been relatively comfortable for the last couple of years. He was back at home for a few weeks until the liver became available. |  | | |
| With the brilliant news today about Kieron Dyer... on 22:10 - Oct 5 with 2628 views | Churchman |
I’ve been a donor for a very long time now for the reasons you rightly give. I have always felt it should be a default setting unless you have a particular reason not to be one (medical etc). Opt out rather than opt in. Just a personal view.
Thank you for the work that you do. |  | | |
| With the brilliant news today about Kieron Dyer... on 08:33 - Oct 6 with 2357 views | hype313 |
| With the brilliant news today about Kieron Dyer... on 22:03 - Oct 5 by PhilTWTD |
HIs liver basically packed up, hence the long spell in hospital. He was on the priority list from there having been relatively comfortable for the last couple of years. He was back at home for a few weeks until the liver became available. |
Presume this was an issue that started post his playing career as I would have presumed it would had been picked up in medicals? |  |
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| With the brilliant news today about Kieron Dyer... on 12:16 - Oct 6 with 2203 views | Blue_In_Boston |
If you would be happy to receive a transplanted organ then you should be as equally prepared to give if the worst is ever to happen.
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| With the brilliant news today about Kieron Dyer... on 13:25 - Oct 6 with 2143 views | DeepBlueSea |
| With the brilliant news today about Kieron Dyer... on 20:32 - Oct 5 by BlueBadger |
Liver medicine is complicated. Particularly if you're essentially supporting a failing (or failed) organ - liver failure can(and does) compromise a lot of organs very quickly and it can be a real effort to get someone fit to even stand and walk about, let alone for a 5+ hour surgery and post-operative intensive care stay(you need to be FIT to survive an ITU admission).
Plus, there's a LOT of work-up and clinical hoops to jump through before you're even admitted to the waiting list. [Post edited 5 Oct 2023 21:59]
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I’d second this.
I worked at a London hospital which specialised in liver transplants and it was the only surgery that had to have specialists on call round the clock. It’s major major surgery, on already very unwell patients. And it can take a good 10-12 hours. I never got called in thankfully, it was the one thing I always dreaded. | | | |
| With the brilliant news today about Kieron Dyer... on 15:53 - Oct 6 with 2045 views | backwaywhen |
| With the brilliant news today about Kieron Dyer... on 12:16 - Oct 6 by Blue_In_Boston |
If you would be happy to receive a transplanted organ then you should be as equally prepared to give if the worst is ever to happen.
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That’s is my take on transplants as well , happy to receive then should be happy to donate , I have had 3 Kidney transplants and the gift of an organ is so precious , in fact my current transplant is one of my sons as a live Donna ……extra precious and special . | | | |
| With the brilliant news today about Kieron Dyer... on 19:20 - Oct 6 with 1952 views | PhilTWTD |
| With the brilliant news today about Kieron Dyer... on 08:33 - Oct 6 by hype313 |
Presume this was an issue that started post his playing career as I would have presumed it would had been picked up in medicals? |
Liver issues were first found in 2002 but the more serious problem was diagnosed in 2019. | | | |
| With the brilliant news today about Kieron Dyer... on 09:16 - Oct 9 with 1084 views | hype313 |
| With the brilliant news today about Kieron Dyer... on 19:20 - Oct 6 by PhilTWTD |
Liver issues were first found in 2002 but the more serious problem was diagnosed in 2019. |
Cheers, wishing him a speedy recovery | |
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