| This can only end well... 19:18 - Nov 9 with 4933 views | Zx1988 |
F**k you, Cruella. |  |
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| This can only end well... on 22:09 - Nov 9 with 831 views | BlueBadger |
| This can only end well... on 20:48 - Nov 9 by Swansea_Blue |
I completely agree. It makes me feel tired reading their nonsense as well. Why constantly try and stir up trouble? It’s all very sad. |
Ever noticed how the really hateful ones all look so haggard?
It definitely ages you being that vile all the time. |  |
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| This can only end well... on 22:25 - Nov 9 with 799 views | Herbivore |
| This can only end well... on 21:48 - Nov 9 by matteoblue |
Remember the rules. Only left-wing demonstrations are allowed. |
They are perfectly entitled to demonstrate that they're massive whoppers, and I'm sure they'll achieve just that. |  |
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| This can only end well... on 22:34 - Nov 9 with 780 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| This can only end well... on 21:27 - Nov 9 by JackNorthStand |
Anyone and everyone “ protesting “ or “ anti protesting “
on a day in an area that is known to be a day of rememberence / mourning are morons. |
Except since the Second World War, the official day for Remembrance has been Remembrance Sunday (the second Sunday in November) not Armistice Day (11th November, which can fall on any day of the week, depending on the year).
Surely any true patriot who genuinely honours those who gave themselves for our country would know that?
As it is, Suella Braverman seems to be cross that people are going to be spending Armistice Day calling for an Armistice, and is raising the prospect of disrespecting those who fought for freedom as a reason to deny people a basic freedom. | | | |
| This can only end well... on 23:04 - Nov 9 with 751 views | Guthrum |
This picture of shell-shocked infantrymen being shot out-of-hand for desertion or sleeping on duty is a bit misleading. Almost 90% of death sentences passed were commuted to other punishments or suspended (2,734 out of 3,080), nearly a third of those executed were repeat offenders (in 40 cases, it was their second sentence of death). Of the 393 men sentenced to death for sleeping on duty, only two were actually shot.
PTSD-type conditions were known and understood by army medical authorities. They were taken into consideration as mitigating factors during courts martial. And there were proper trials, with legal representation for the accused. Verdicts had to be unanimous, clemency could be recommended and the decisions were reviewed all the way up the chain of command before being carried out.
I am in no way in favour of capital punishment, but desertion on active service has always been regarded as one of the most serious offences in the military (behind mutiny, for which three men were shot).
Figures from "Mud, Blood and Poppycock" by Gordon Corrigan
A good read on the pychological aspect is "The Anatomy of Courage" by Charles Wilson (later Lord Moran), himself a regimental medical officer on the Western Front - and Churchill's personal doctor during WWII. |  |
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| This can only end well... on 00:23 - Nov 10 with 719 views | Churchman |
| This can only end well... on 23:04 - Nov 9 by Guthrum |
This picture of shell-shocked infantrymen being shot out-of-hand for desertion or sleeping on duty is a bit misleading. Almost 90% of death sentences passed were commuted to other punishments or suspended (2,734 out of 3,080), nearly a third of those executed were repeat offenders (in 40 cases, it was their second sentence of death). Of the 393 men sentenced to death for sleeping on duty, only two were actually shot.
PTSD-type conditions were known and understood by army medical authorities. They were taken into consideration as mitigating factors during courts martial. And there were proper trials, with legal representation for the accused. Verdicts had to be unanimous, clemency could be recommended and the decisions were reviewed all the way up the chain of command before being carried out.
I am in no way in favour of capital punishment, but desertion on active service has always been regarded as one of the most serious offences in the military (behind mutiny, for which three men were shot).
Figures from "Mud, Blood and Poppycock" by Gordon Corrigan
A good read on the pychological aspect is "The Anatomy of Courage" by Charles Wilson (later Lord Moran), himself a regimental medical officer on the Western Front - and Churchill's personal doctor during WWII. |
Certainly as the war progressed there was a greater understanding of PTSD style injuries. It wasn’t understood as it is now, but certainly better than early in the war where nobody had seen industrial war quite like this or its consequences.
My evidence? There’s plenty of material out there and Guthrum’s summary is spot on, as I understand it. From a personal perspective, my grandfather was hit in the face by shrapnel on 1 Sept 1917, his best friend who was shorter died next to him and their officer was killed too. He had recovered by April 1918 and he was discharged. The record says ‘shell shock and facial wound’. He’d been out there since January 1916. He was done.
Had he gone to France earlier and been injured correspondingly earlier would he have been treated in the same way? Doubt it.
There is a perception that WW1 was a static war where nothing changed, nothing was learned and the Blackadder style Melchets just repeating the same mistakes killing millions. It really wasn’t like that. This includes how casualties were treated and how the army actually worked. |  | | |
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| This can only end well... on 01:34 - Nov 10 with 697 views | ronnyd |
| This can only end well... on 22:05 - Nov 9 by factual_blue |
Touché |
Yes, i know, but my keyboard skills are crap.  | | | |
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