| Positives of a new manager 07:14 - May 24 with 2652 views | stickymockwell |
Plucking at straws here but here goes.
A new guy will have no loyalty to the players that got us up so the sentiment dissappears. He will look at the squad with fresh eyes and will be more ruthless. He'll have a good war chest to make improvements. We might even have to sell Davis but if we get 20 million plus for a left back then we can get a decent replacement for half the money. Our system suited Davis but I can easily see somebody else's could render him an average fullback if he doesn't have the freedom of a Mckenna system. |  |
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| Positives of a new manager on 07:15 - May 24 with 2346 views | tractorboy1978 |
A new manager having no loyalty and being ruthless is one of the biggest negatives I can think of personally. |  | | |
| Positives of a new manager on 07:17 - May 24 with 2335 views | Herbivore |
Yeah, I think you're reaching, mate. Not sure someone coming in and going full demolition man and selling Davis to boot can be seen as positives. |  |
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| Positives of a new manager on 07:20 - May 24 with 2300 views | stickymockwell |
| Positives of a new manager on 07:15 - May 24 by tractorboy1978 |
A new manager having no loyalty and being ruthless is one of the biggest negatives I can think of personally. |
Why?
I think Southgates biggest downfall as England manager is his loyalty to certain players. | |
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| Positives of a new manager on 07:22 - May 24 with 2278 views | Herbivore |
| Positives of a new manager on 07:20 - May 24 by stickymockwell |
Why?
I think Southgates biggest downfall as England manager is his loyalty to certain players. |
International management and club management are very different. Ripping it up and starting again is not what we need. | |
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| Positives of a new manager on 07:23 - May 24 with 2259 views | stickymockwell |
| Positives of a new manager on 07:17 - May 24 by Herbivore |
Yeah, I think you're reaching, mate. Not sure someone coming in and going full demolition man and selling Davis to boot can be seen as positives. |
We will need an overhaul. I'm not suggesting a cook style demolition just that the sentiment of playing certain players that might not be good enough goes. As I said plucking at straws but you never know. | |
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| Positives of a new manager on 07:23 - May 24 with 2252 views | textbackup |
| Positives of a new manager on 07:22 - May 24 by Herbivore |
International management and club management are very different. Ripping it up and starting again is not what we need. |
I might be wrong, but I’m sure he only mentions Davis going to fund further signings. |  |
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| Positives of a new manager on 07:24 - May 24 with 2244 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Positives of a new manager on 07:20 - May 24 by stickymockwell |
Why?
I think Southgates biggest downfall as England manager is his loyalty to certain players. |
The way we stay up is through togetherness and the in built spirit in this squad. We need some additions for sure but tearing apart a team that has been successful and causing disharmony is not the answer. | | | |
| Positives of a new manager on 07:26 - May 24 with 2220 views | Herbivore |
| Positives of a new manager on 07:23 - May 24 by textbackup |
I might be wrong, but I’m sure he only mentions Davis going to fund further signings. |
We'll be getting a £100m windfall, we don't need to sell Davis to fund signings. He also says Davis might be an average fullback for the new manager. I'm not seeing any genuine positives here. | |
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| Positives of a new manager on 07:30 - May 24 with 2187 views | stickymockwell |
| Positives of a new manager on 07:24 - May 24 by tractorboy1978 |
The way we stay up is through togetherness and the in built spirit in this squad. We need some additions for sure but tearing apart a team that has been successful and causing disharmony is not the answer. |
As a fan base we look at the task ahead with too much emotion. It's a business for the manager and players. Togetherness helps and gets you so far. I haven't said to rip the team up but more being ruthless with the ones that could cost us eventually. If we're being torn a new one week in week out the bonds will soon begin to crack. | |
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| Positives of a new manager on 07:35 - May 24 with 2145 views | stickymockwell |
| Positives of a new manager on 07:26 - May 24 by Herbivore |
We'll be getting a £100m windfall, we don't need to sell Davis to fund signings. He also says Davis might be an average fullback for the new manager. I'm not seeing any genuine positives here. |
Davis has been linked to other clubs. If Mckenna goes I'm sure he'll want to try his arm somewhere else because he has a career to consider. He's a very very good fullback. I'm talking about systems and a huge jump in standards of football next season. We're obsessed with loyalty in football when sometimes it can be a negative also.
I'm just trying to spin some kind of positive in a sh1t situation | |
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| Positives of a new manager on 07:45 - May 24 with 2032 views | Herbivore |
| Positives of a new manager on 07:35 - May 24 by stickymockwell |
Davis has been linked to other clubs. If Mckenna goes I'm sure he'll want to try his arm somewhere else because he has a career to consider. He's a very very good fullback. I'm talking about systems and a huge jump in standards of football next season. We're obsessed with loyalty in football when sometimes it can be a negative also.
I'm just trying to spin some kind of positive in a sh1t situation |
I appreciate the effort, mate, I just don't think it's working. The biggest positive will be if McKenna stays. | |
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| Positives of a new manager on 07:49 - May 24 with 1985 views | stickymockwell |
| Positives of a new manager on 07:45 - May 24 by Herbivore |
I appreciate the effort, mate, I just don't think it's working. The biggest positive will be if McKenna stays. |
Of course. It's my plenty more fish in the sea scenario when you've had your heart ripped out. | |
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| Positives of a new manager on 07:52 - May 24 with 1964 views | Herbivore |
| Positives of a new manager on 07:49 - May 24 by stickymockwell |
Of course. It's my plenty more fish in the sea scenario when you've had your heart ripped out. |
Maybe we'll become Watford and shag around all over the shop to avoid getting our hearts broken again. I can't say this with any confidence, but my gut feeling is that McKenna will still be here next season. | |
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| Positives of a new manager on 07:58 - May 24 with 1909 views | Bossy |
| Positives of a new manager on 07:20 - May 24 by stickymockwell |
Why?
I think Southgates biggest downfall as England manager is his loyalty to certain players. |
His biggest downfall is his style of play and tactics. |  |
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| Positives of a new manager on 08:06 - May 24 with 1830 views | FrimleyBlue |
The positive for any new manager is that if they keep us up. They achieve legend status after one season. |  |
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| Positives of a new manager on 08:13 - May 24 with 1777 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Positives of a new manager on 07:23 - May 24 by textbackup |
I might be wrong, but I’m sure he only mentions Davis going to fund further signings. |
Also. If KM goes to utd who don't have a lot of options at left back, it would be a surprise If the first player he goes for is the left back who's been integral to the two promotions KM has achieved. | |
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| Positives of a new manager on 08:17 - May 24 with 1745 views | ElephantintheRoom |
I think you are being a tad over optimistic. The players will rightly be devastated when McKenna goes - and a raft of yes men will follow. The coaching staff will be gone - and the cynical decisions to bin the academy and borrow other teams’ players might come home to roost. IF he goes to a basket case like Chelsea - which if you look at it, is almost identical to what was going on at Ipswich immediately after the takeover, he might even want Ashton there as part of the deal to manage the egotistical American chancers - which he’s been very good at.
Given that the current team are overachieving journeymen and the inspirational skipper looks singularly ill equipped to survive in the Prem unless he can modify his ahem ‘competitive’ style then the most likely scenario is a challenge to Sheff U’s recent effort. I’d also suggest that even if McKenna was of a mind to stay (which clearly he never has been) the damage is already done. His greed and opportunism have already burst the bubble. | |
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| Positives of a new manager on 08:24 - May 24 with 1706 views | IndependentlyBlue |
| Positives of a new manager on 08:17 - May 24 by ElephantintheRoom |
I think you are being a tad over optimistic. The players will rightly be devastated when McKenna goes - and a raft of yes men will follow. The coaching staff will be gone - and the cynical decisions to bin the academy and borrow other teams’ players might come home to roost. IF he goes to a basket case like Chelsea - which if you look at it, is almost identical to what was going on at Ipswich immediately after the takeover, he might even want Ashton there as part of the deal to manage the egotistical American chancers - which he’s been very good at.
Given that the current team are overachieving journeymen and the inspirational skipper looks singularly ill equipped to survive in the Prem unless he can modify his ahem ‘competitive’ style then the most likely scenario is a challenge to Sheff U’s recent effort. I’d also suggest that even if McKenna was of a mind to stay (which clearly he never has been) the damage is already done. His greed and opportunism have already burst the bubble. |
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| Positives of a new manager on 08:34 - May 24 with 1653 views | Crawfordsboot |
| Positives of a new manager on 08:17 - May 24 by ElephantintheRoom |
I think you are being a tad over optimistic. The players will rightly be devastated when McKenna goes - and a raft of yes men will follow. The coaching staff will be gone - and the cynical decisions to bin the academy and borrow other teams’ players might come home to roost. IF he goes to a basket case like Chelsea - which if you look at it, is almost identical to what was going on at Ipswich immediately after the takeover, he might even want Ashton there as part of the deal to manage the egotistical American chancers - which he’s been very good at.
Given that the current team are overachieving journeymen and the inspirational skipper looks singularly ill equipped to survive in the Prem unless he can modify his ahem ‘competitive’ style then the most likely scenario is a challenge to Sheff U’s recent effort. I’d also suggest that even if McKenna was of a mind to stay (which clearly he never has been) the damage is already done. His greed and opportunism have already burst the bubble. |
Let me guess - you’ve disinherited your kids because after living with you for 19 or 20 years they’ve upped and left you - greedy, opportunistic little busteds-always were! They’ve abandoned you. No loyalty! |  | | |
| Positives of a new manager on 09:11 - May 24 with 1541 views | Europablue |
| Positives of a new manager on 07:30 - May 24 by stickymockwell |
As a fan base we look at the task ahead with too much emotion. It's a business for the manager and players. Togetherness helps and gets you so far. I haven't said to rip the team up but more being ruthless with the ones that could cost us eventually. If we're being torn a new one week in week out the bonds will soon begin to crack. |
People like to fill in the blanks and make up what the wanted you to have said to argue with you.
The squad needs a lot of attention and that would have happened even if we didn't get promoted. In addition to the natural attrition of players who were heading out anyway, we need to move some first team players into the wider squad and some squad players will no doubt leave because we are in the Premier League now. | | | |
| Positives of a new manager on 09:15 - May 24 with 1507 views | Europablue |
| Positives of a new manager on 07:58 - May 24 by Bossy |
His biggest downfall is his style of play and tactics. |
I'd also be happy if McKenna left us to manage England to a cup win. Southgate has done a lot of things right. He brought the team spirit back and has proven very good at getting the team through the early rounds and games when England are the favourites, but he lacks courage and is too cautious in key phases of games and ends up finding a way to lose rather than finding a way to win. | | | |
| Positives of a new manager on 09:26 - May 24 with 1438 views | Europablue |
| Positives of a new manager on 08:17 - May 24 by ElephantintheRoom |
I think you are being a tad over optimistic. The players will rightly be devastated when McKenna goes - and a raft of yes men will follow. The coaching staff will be gone - and the cynical decisions to bin the academy and borrow other teams’ players might come home to roost. IF he goes to a basket case like Chelsea - which if you look at it, is almost identical to what was going on at Ipswich immediately after the takeover, he might even want Ashton there as part of the deal to manage the egotistical American chancers - which he’s been very good at.
Given that the current team are overachieving journeymen and the inspirational skipper looks singularly ill equipped to survive in the Prem unless he can modify his ahem ‘competitive’ style then the most likely scenario is a challenge to Sheff U’s recent effort. I’d also suggest that even if McKenna was of a mind to stay (which clearly he never has been) the damage is already done. His greed and opportunism have already burst the bubble. |
Ashton to Chelsea, I didn't see that one coming! He might be tempted by that, but I think his working relationship with the board is so good that he will stay considering that the club still has so much more room to grow.
Morsy will have to adapt his game, but he has spent multiple matches on the yellow card tightrope and has not had the longer suspension. Most of his yellow cards are right in front of the referee, and are for tactical reasons. I don't think that materially changes much with VAR. | | | |
| Positives of a new manager on 09:29 - May 24 with 1419 views | Europablue |
| Positives of a new manager on 08:34 - May 24 by Crawfordsboot |
Let me guess - you’ve disinherited your kids because after living with you for 19 or 20 years they’ve upped and left you - greedy, opportunistic little busteds-always were! They’ve abandoned you. No loyalty! |
Exactly! It's not reasonable for any fan to accept KM leaving the Man Utd. coaching staff (where's the loyalty) knowing that he had aspirations to go back there then deny KM his chance to manage there after getting us back to back promotions. | | | |
| Positives of a new manager on 09:33 - May 24 with 1397 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Positives of a new manager on 07:35 - May 24 by stickymockwell |
Davis has been linked to other clubs. If Mckenna goes I'm sure he'll want to try his arm somewhere else because he has a career to consider. He's a very very good fullback. I'm talking about systems and a huge jump in standards of football next season. We're obsessed with loyalty in football when sometimes it can be a negative also.
I'm just trying to spin some kind of positive in a sh1t situation |
The effort you are going to on this one suggests you actually want to see huge money spent and a load of players brought in.
What got us up was this squad would die for each other. Rip the squad up, and thats gone immediately. |  |
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| Positives of a new manager on 09:42 - May 24 with 1354 views | positivity |
no, the system works well and gets the best out of the players.
if mckenna goes, i'd like a continuity candidate with similar tactical philosophy and man management skills | |
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