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First thing - Magilton. This has always p*ssed me off. Magic deserved more time. Evans was obviously charmed by Keane. They were both Irish, but i have to admit I could understand what the dark lord was saying but struggled with Jims accent. Maybe Evans felt the same way. That says to me that Evans doesn't understand football. Football is set apart from every other industry. It's a unique industry and almost a closed shop to outsiders.
Colin would not have bought Lee (f'kin) Martin and we would have flirted with the play-offs for 2 years and then sacked him.
Don't believe a word I say. I'm only kidding. Or am I?
Wonder what would’ve happened had Evans gone ahead with appointing Warnock… on 00:20 - Jun 8 by Oldsmoker
First thing - Magilton. This has always p*ssed me off. Magic deserved more time. Evans was obviously charmed by Keane. They were both Irish, but i have to admit I could understand what the dark lord was saying but struggled with Jims accent. Maybe Evans felt the same way. That says to me that Evans doesn't understand football. Football is set apart from every other industry. It's a unique industry and almost a closed shop to outsiders.
Colin would not have bought Lee (f'kin) Martin and we would have flirted with the play-offs for 2 years and then sacked him.
Wonder what would’ve happened had Evans gone ahead with appointing Warnock… on 00:20 - Jun 8 by Oldsmoker
First thing - Magilton. This has always p*ssed me off. Magic deserved more time. Evans was obviously charmed by Keane. They were both Irish, but i have to admit I could understand what the dark lord was saying but struggled with Jims accent. Maybe Evans felt the same way. That says to me that Evans doesn't understand football. Football is set apart from every other industry. It's a unique industry and almost a closed shop to outsiders.
Colin would not have bought Lee (f'kin) Martin and we would have flirted with the play-offs for 2 years and then sacked him.
That’s why my username is Tortoise! Felt we should have given Jim more time and not rushed into Keane! I mean hindsight suggests he might not have done much better, but I was very unhappy about it at the time.
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Wonder what would’ve happened had Evans gone ahead with appointing Warnock… on 06:50 - Jun 8 with 2723 views
At that time, we would have carried on being a mid table Championship club. Warnock is the best manager of that level that we could, but never had. We wouldn't appreciate where we are now as much if we hadn't gone where we went. The managers before McKenna have given us some very dark times, but we are now back where I think this club deserves to be. I prefer to look forward rather than back, so I am just enjoying this amazing journey we are all on together. Long may it continue.
Wonder what would’ve happened had Evans gone ahead with appointing Warnock… on 06:24 - Jun 8 by tortoise
That’s why my username is Tortoise! Felt we should have given Jim more time and not rushed into Keane! I mean hindsight suggests he might not have done much better, but I was very unhappy about it at the time.
Jim should have had another season, but I understand that Evans wanted his own man and thought Keane was the shortcut to the PL. Sometimes it’s not what you do but how you do it. Magilton was treated disgracefully.
Keane? The boilerman had no idea what he was doing. Not a clue. That became obvious very quickly. How that bloke steals a living on tv is beyond me. I suppose the sight of somebody a bit mad ranting on and the fear on the faces of the other has been pundits offers entertainment to some.
Warnock? He’d have done better than all bar maybe McCarthy. But given how Evans ran ITFC I don’t think he’d have lasted. We were sinking as a club, come what may. We saw it with McCarthy - you can only defy gravity so long. I don’t think anyone could have succeeded under Evans.
Three years on from all that. Thank goodness. The dementor years have somehow made our recent achievements all the sweeter.
[Post edited 8 Jun 2024 7:24]
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Wonder what would’ve happened had Evans gone ahead with appointing Warnock… on 08:26 - Jun 8 with 2544 views
With the funds Evans made available to Keane,with Warnock we would have got promotion. He just knew how to get teams promoted,love him or loathe him,he was one of the best championship managers around for years.
Wonder what would’ve happened had Evans gone ahead with appointing Warnock… on 07:22 - Jun 8 by Churchman
Jim should have had another season, but I understand that Evans wanted his own man and thought Keane was the shortcut to the PL. Sometimes it’s not what you do but how you do it. Magilton was treated disgracefully.
Keane? The boilerman had no idea what he was doing. Not a clue. That became obvious very quickly. How that bloke steals a living on tv is beyond me. I suppose the sight of somebody a bit mad ranting on and the fear on the faces of the other has been pundits offers entertainment to some.
Warnock? He’d have done better than all bar maybe McCarthy. But given how Evans ran ITFC I don’t think he’d have lasted. We were sinking as a club, come what may. We saw it with McCarthy - you can only defy gravity so long. I don’t think anyone could have succeeded under Evans.
Three years on from all that. Thank goodness. The dementor years have somehow made our recent achievements all the sweeter.
Wonder what would’ve happened had Evans gone ahead with appointing Warnock… on 08:26 - Jun 8 by bluesym
With the funds Evans made available to Keane,with Warnock we would have got promotion. He just knew how to get teams promoted,love him or loathe him,he was one of the best championship managers around for years.
I’m not convinced, one thing Gamechanger has shown us is executive team and back room staff are vital for recruitment, keeping players on the pitch, day to day running contracts etc. and essentially success.
That simply wasn’t in place and was a long way off hence people leaving for free, unable to land transfer targets and settling for 4th choice, people out injured for 2 years and breaking down on their return. I don’t see any manager making much of a difference.
Although clearly he would have done better than Keano who was/is in no way cut out to manage.
Wonder what would’ve happened had Evans gone ahead with appointing Warnock… on 07:22 - Jun 8 by Churchman
Jim should have had another season, but I understand that Evans wanted his own man and thought Keane was the shortcut to the PL. Sometimes it’s not what you do but how you do it. Magilton was treated disgracefully.
Keane? The boilerman had no idea what he was doing. Not a clue. That became obvious very quickly. How that bloke steals a living on tv is beyond me. I suppose the sight of somebody a bit mad ranting on and the fear on the faces of the other has been pundits offers entertainment to some.
Warnock? He’d have done better than all bar maybe McCarthy. But given how Evans ran ITFC I don’t think he’d have lasted. We were sinking as a club, come what may. We saw it with McCarthy - you can only defy gravity so long. I don’t think anyone could have succeeded under Evans.
Three years on from all that. Thank goodness. The dementor years have somehow made our recent achievements all the sweeter.
[Post edited 8 Jun 2024 7:24]
I was a little star struck by Keane's appointment, for about two seconds i.e. until it was obvious he was utterly useless as a manager for Town. No idea how he had that success at Sunderland. Luck?
It was all overshadowed for me by the treatment of Magilton. I'm a pretty fatalistic and superstitious twit and whilst I don't believe in actual curses I do believe in a kind of instant karma, like how people behave will affect them fairly quickly. It's simple isn't it? Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself.
The Curse was real, in effect. And only lifted when Magilton came back to the club at the invitation of Gamechanger/Ashton et al.
Wonder what would’ve happened had Evans gone ahead with appointing Warnock… on 06:50 - Jun 8 by MK1
At that time, we would have carried on being a mid table Championship club. Warnock is the best manager of that level that we could, but never had. We wouldn't appreciate where we are now as much if we hadn't gone where we went. The managers before McKenna have given us some very dark times, but we are now back where I think this club deserves to be. I prefer to look forward rather than back, so I am just enjoying this amazing journey we are all on together. Long may it continue.
I know people love Colin but I think he's a wvanker. As a football manager, not as a person, obviously.
Wonder what would’ve happened had Evans gone ahead with appointing Warnock… on 08:52 - Jun 8 by LeoMuff
I’m not convinced, one thing Gamechanger has shown us is executive team and back room staff are vital for recruitment, keeping players on the pitch, day to day running contracts etc. and essentially success.
That simply wasn’t in place and was a long way off hence people leaving for free, unable to land transfer targets and settling for 4th choice, people out injured for 2 years and breaking down on their return. I don’t see any manager making much of a difference.
Although clearly he would have done better than Keano who was/is in no way cut out to manage.
I don't think we were as far behind the league standard in 2009 as we clearly were by 2019 though, when Keane was appointed teams weren't spending a great deal of money in the Championship which was definitely a factor in Norwich going up two divisions in a row (as much as they deserved it). The money we spent should have had us challenging for the top two not 16th.
Wonder what would’ve happened had Evans gone ahead with appointing Warnock… on 07:22 - Jun 8 by Churchman
Jim should have had another season, but I understand that Evans wanted his own man and thought Keane was the shortcut to the PL. Sometimes it’s not what you do but how you do it. Magilton was treated disgracefully.
Keane? The boilerman had no idea what he was doing. Not a clue. That became obvious very quickly. How that bloke steals a living on tv is beyond me. I suppose the sight of somebody a bit mad ranting on and the fear on the faces of the other has been pundits offers entertainment to some.
Warnock? He’d have done better than all bar maybe McCarthy. But given how Evans ran ITFC I don’t think he’d have lasted. We were sinking as a club, come what may. We saw it with McCarthy - you can only defy gravity so long. I don’t think anyone could have succeeded under Evans.
Three years on from all that. Thank goodness. The dementor years have somehow made our recent achievements all the sweeter.
[Post edited 8 Jun 2024 7:24]
‘I suppose the sight of somebody a bit mad ranting on and the fear on the faces of the other’.
Ahh, you watched the election debates then.
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Wonder what would’ve happened had Evans gone ahead with appointing Warnock… on 10:03 - Jun 8 with 2199 views
Wonder what would’ve happened had Evans gone ahead with appointing Warnock… on 08:52 - Jun 8 by LeoMuff
I’m not convinced, one thing Gamechanger has shown us is executive team and back room staff are vital for recruitment, keeping players on the pitch, day to day running contracts etc. and essentially success.
That simply wasn’t in place and was a long way off hence people leaving for free, unable to land transfer targets and settling for 4th choice, people out injured for 2 years and breaking down on their return. I don’t see any manager making much of a difference.
Although clearly he would have done better than Keano who was/is in no way cut out to manage.
I think he would have done a similar job to Mick, punching above our weight, pushing for play offs, if the luck was on our side get in them.
Not sure the infrastructure was there in 2009, we had started to fall behind then and then at the end of Evans’ reign you could barely call it professional standard. ( no criticism of the staff there but they had no support/tools)
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Wonder what would’ve happened had Evans gone ahead with appointing Warnock… on 15:40 - Jun 8 with 1814 views
Wonder what would’ve happened had Evans gone ahead with appointing Warnock… on 09:57 - Jun 8 by _clive_baker_
‘I suppose the sight of somebody a bit mad ranting on and the fear on the faces of the other’.
Ahh, you watched the election debates then.
Errrr, no. Nor will I be. In any case, no point in watching the ones with Sunak as presumably he’ll scuttle off half way through.
Back to the point, I suspect Warnock might have brought in better players than the likes of Lee Martin (awful waste of money) and would have put together a better team. Would that have been enough? It. It might have been in the early days, but once Evans started stripping the club out and that clueless cretin Clegg began messing about, no chance.
A club has to be aligned from the top down.
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Wonder what would’ve happened had Evans gone ahead with appointing Warnock… on 16:51 - Jun 8 with 1729 views
Wonder what would’ve happened had Evans gone ahead with appointing Warnock… on 06:24 - Jun 8 by tortoise
That’s why my username is Tortoise! Felt we should have given Jim more time and not rushed into Keane! I mean hindsight suggests he might not have done much better, but I was very unhappy about it at the time.
We should have appointed someone else.
Sacking Magilton was still a right decision. He spent loads of money and we still weren't a threat for the top 6.
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