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Town vs England 16:44 - Jun 22 with 3016 viewsCentral_Blue

Hypothetical match between the England team that started the last two games and the Town team that finished the season just gone - who’s winning?
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Town vs England on 18:44 - Jun 22 with 2831 viewsStourbridgeblue

Well I know which team would have the better left back!

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Town vs England on 20:14 - Jun 22 with 2708 viewsCentral_Blue

Town vs England on 18:44 - Jun 22 by Stourbridgeblue

Well I know which team would have the better left back!


No doubt! And while we’re talking round pegs in round holes, I’d have Morsy ahead of TAA in midfield too. I wouldn’t question the quality of the other nine England starters, yet can’t help thinking we’d be pretty comfortable against them.
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Town vs England on 11:08 - Jun 23 with 2528 viewsChurchman

I think England would struggle to beat anyone in the top two divisions with the exception of maybe last season’s bottom three our four in the Championship.
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Town vs England on 11:12 - Jun 23 with 2519 viewspointofblue

England have the better players but Town have the better team. And, as alluded to above, the same can be said about the entire Premier League and most of the Championship.
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Town vs England on 11:32 - Jun 23 with 2478 viewsPinewoodblue

Depends who is coaching England.

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Town vs England on 11:45 - Jun 23 with 2457 viewsWeWereZombies

May I put a kink in your hypothetical and suggest a goalie swap ? We can then ask the questions 'Would England play out from the back with more verve and vigour if Hladky was in goal ?' and 'Would Town stop letting in stupid goals early and late in games if Pickford was bawling his head off at the defence all the time ?'

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Town vs England on 12:37 - Jun 23 with 2371 viewsDJR

I would say England. Of course, they may not be playing particularly well but they are up against international quality players and I think they would just be too good for us.

It would be a different game, however, if they were playing Liverpool or Man City both of whom are packed full of internationals and play as team.
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Town vs England on 12:47 - Jun 23 with 2325 viewsYou_Bloo_Right

I think club sides, certainly top club sides, would fare very well against international teams if only because the players will have spent more time together on style of play, training, etc.

How far down the club structure you would need to go before the "familiarity" of a club side is out-weighed by the superior talent of the international team is an interesting question.

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Town vs England on 13:34 - Jun 23 with 2259 viewsCentral_Blue

Town vs England on 11:45 - Jun 23 by WeWereZombies

May I put a kink in your hypothetical and suggest a goalie swap ? We can then ask the questions 'Would England play out from the back with more verve and vigour if Hladky was in goal ?' and 'Would Town stop letting in stupid goals early and late in games if Pickford was bawling his head off at the defence all the time ?'


Pickford is good with his feet though. That he’s been hoofing it long so much in the first two games of this tournament is another indication of the dysfunction in the team.Vas wouldn’t have had anyone to pass to either. A really vocal keeper like Pickford could really help Town, you’re right. Vas is pretty quiet and Walton too, from memory. Another category for the data dashboard.
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Town vs England on 15:05 - Jun 23 with 2203 viewsketton_itfc

Even with Town bias we'd beat this England team because they are about as uncohesive a team as you'll get. Southgate fallen for the old trap of trying to shoehorn players into a team at the expense of overall team shape. And his reluctance to attack teams once ahead does him no favours.

This England team reminds me of the one from the 92 Euro's albeit with much better quality. At least Taylor had an excuse.

And let's put it another way, if KMc was England boss they'd go and win the bloody thing.
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Town vs England on 16:19 - Jun 23 with 2146 viewsCentral_Blue

Town vs England on 15:05 - Jun 23 by ketton_itfc

Even with Town bias we'd beat this England team because they are about as uncohesive a team as you'll get. Southgate fallen for the old trap of trying to shoehorn players into a team at the expense of overall team shape. And his reluctance to attack teams once ahead does him no favours.

This England team reminds me of the one from the 92 Euro's albeit with much better quality. At least Taylor had an excuse.

And let's put it another way, if KMc was England boss they'd go and win the bloody thing.


This is where I am on the subject. Incohesive is exactly right.

I like Southgate - he’s a decent bloke and at previous tournaments he’s had players playing without the fear that I associate with England teams at previous tournaments. Not this time though. I don’t remember 1992 Euros that well, but England so far have reminded me of World Cups 2006 under Sven and 2014 under Roy. Absolutely feeble.

This video is really good (from the same guy who explained how well-equipped Town are for the PL a few weeks ago):



And yes, Kieran would have these players doing incredible things.
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Town vs England on 20:40 - Jun 23 with 2031 viewsElephantintheRoom

England have a good defence and Town don’t. Could go to penalties.

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Town vs England on 21:34 - Jun 23 with 1962 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Town vs England on 16:19 - Jun 23 by Central_Blue

This is where I am on the subject. Incohesive is exactly right.

I like Southgate - he’s a decent bloke and at previous tournaments he’s had players playing without the fear that I associate with England teams at previous tournaments. Not this time though. I don’t remember 1992 Euros that well, but England so far have reminded me of World Cups 2006 under Sven and 2014 under Roy. Absolutely feeble.

This video is really good (from the same guy who explained how well-equipped Town are for the PL a few weeks ago):



And yes, Kieran would have these players doing incredible things.


It is remarkable the effect of being able to train players together week in week out.

Southgate could probably employ better tactics but his biggest problem is that he has players from 15 different clubs trying to learn how each other play in a few weeks together. It is notable how few new signings are up to speed with Town until several weeks training with us.

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Town vs England on 23:31 - Jun 23 with 1908 viewsMattinLondon

England would win 3-0.
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Town vs England on 23:39 - Jun 23 with 1900 viewsJ2BLUE

Town vs England on 23:31 - Jun 23 by MattinLondon

England would win 3-0.


Yea these threads are always funny for the level of delusion they bring

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Town vs England on 10:38 - Jun 24 with 1746 viewsBluefields

Town vs England on 18:44 - Jun 22 by Stourbridgeblue

Well I know which team would have the better left back!


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Town vs England on 10:52 - Jun 24 with 1701 viewspointofblue

Town vs England on 21:34 - Jun 23 by Nthsuffolkblue

It is remarkable the effect of being able to train players together week in week out.

Southgate could probably employ better tactics but his biggest problem is that he has players from 15 different clubs trying to learn how each other play in a few weeks together. It is notable how few new signings are up to speed with Town until several weeks training with us.


Other international teams don't appear to have this issue though - even those with a lesser quality of players to England.

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