| England players not taking criticism well 14:16 - Jun 24 with 2249 views | kizaitfc |
Why does it seem every time a pundit mildly criticises an England player they seem to respond in such a touchy way.
It is the pundits job to highlight issues, I have to say most pundits are spotting things you would like to think Southgate and his coaching team are already showing the players. |  |
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| England players not taking criticism well on 14:23 - Jun 24 with 2171 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
Don't think its been that bad has it ?
Kane was very measured in his response. Think that is how most people would've responded. |  |
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| England players not taking criticism well on 14:47 - Jun 24 with 2057 views | Europablue |
The response to one bad result and one and a half bad performances has been overblown and that probably comes as a surprise to the players. There are two aspects of this. The press and TV pundits love to build us up to be worldbeaters only to then knock us down when we fail. That has been the case for decades and demonstrates a losers mentality and is a factor to why we haven't won anything for such a long time. But it sells papers and gets clicks and eyeballs though, so you wouldn't expect that to change.
The background behind the criticism is that Southgate has bottled it at key points when we should have pushed on and instead dropped very deep. He has had enough time to reflect on this problem and all signs suggest that it is time for a change. Southgate has done a good job in some respects, but most notably not really during matches.
To be fair to the players, what are they supposed to do exactly? Are they supposed to throw Southgate under the bus? Are they supposed to be negative when they are in a decent position and sort things out they could be in a very positive position with a great chance of doing well in the tournament? | | | |
| England players not taking criticism well on 14:55 - Jun 24 with 2019 views | mutters |
Historically the media are tw@ts to English footballers. They love to build em up and then knock them down at any opportunity.
I'd be wary of speaking to them, so I can not blame them. They are all looking for that soundbite |  |
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| England players not taking criticism well on 15:05 - Jun 24 with 1968 views | Crawfordsboot |
| England players not taking criticism well on 14:55 - Jun 24 by mutters |
Historically the media are tw@ts to English footballers. They love to build em up and then knock them down at any opportunity.
I'd be wary of speaking to them, so I can not blame them. They are all looking for that soundbite |
As I have commented elsewhere in terms of points per game Southgate’s record as England manager is very close to ours over the last two seasons.
McKenna out 🤔 |  | | |
| England players not taking criticism well on 15:07 - Jun 24 with 1958 views | LeoMuff |
Strongly rumoured only change for tomorrow in TAA swapped for Gallagher to start, if so pretty dissatisfying and if we play as badly again, they and Southgate will get hammered. |  |
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| England players not taking criticism well on 15:09 - Jun 24 with 1939 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
He’s England’s record goal scorer, and with a goals to games ratio far better than Rooney etc. He’s also off the back of a season scoring over a goal per game at one of the biggest clubs in the world.
That he turned in a couple of disappointing England showings is on the manager not getting the best out of him (or the rest of the squad for that matter). The buck should stop with Southgate who largely gets an east ride in the media (and until this tournament the BBC were almost sycophantic about him, despite his obvious tactical shortcomings). | | | |
| England players not taking criticism well on 15:13 - Jun 24 with 1931 views | MattinLondon |
| England players not taking criticism well on 15:05 - Jun 24 by Crawfordsboot |
As I have commented elsewhere in terms of points per game Southgate’s record as England manager is very close to ours over the last two seasons.
McKenna out 🤔 |
McKenna doesn’t have world class players in his squad. Southgate has a few. |  | | |
| England players not taking criticism well on 15:22 - Jun 24 with 1893 views | RegencyBlue |
| England players not taking criticism well on 15:07 - Jun 24 by LeoMuff |
Strongly rumoured only change for tomorrow in TAA swapped for Gallagher to start, if so pretty dissatisfying and if we play as badly again, they and Southgate will get hammered. |
Southgate is the one who should be criticised.
Sitting back after we score a goal has to be under his instruction. With the players at his disposal we should be doing much better than that.
He’s toast after this tournament. |  | | |
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| England players not taking criticism well on 15:37 - Jun 24 with 1823 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Seemed a fairly measured response to be fair.
I dont think Lineker was unfair, and I dont think Kanes response was unfair.
All just media nonsense. |  |
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| England players not taking criticism well on 16:21 - Jun 24 with 1702 views | Battersea_Blue |
| England players not taking criticism well on 14:47 - Jun 24 by Europablue |
The response to one bad result and one and a half bad performances has been overblown and that probably comes as a surprise to the players. There are two aspects of this. The press and TV pundits love to build us up to be worldbeaters only to then knock us down when we fail. That has been the case for decades and demonstrates a losers mentality and is a factor to why we haven't won anything for such a long time. But it sells papers and gets clicks and eyeballs though, so you wouldn't expect that to change.
The background behind the criticism is that Southgate has bottled it at key points when we should have pushed on and instead dropped very deep. He has had enough time to reflect on this problem and all signs suggest that it is time for a change. Southgate has done a good job in some respects, but most notably not really during matches.
To be fair to the players, what are they supposed to do exactly? Are they supposed to throw Southgate under the bus? Are they supposed to be negative when they are in a decent position and sort things out they could be in a very positive position with a great chance of doing well in the tournament? |
Don’t agree with your first para, but totally agree with paras 2 and 3.
The media, for me, have quite rightly jumped on two really, really poor performances. So the media and us fans look at “why”?
The players we have, particularly DFM and everything forward of that, is world class. They don’t suddenly become poor players.
Southgate is a really nice guy, but for goodness sake I wish he’d show some bloody passion. The older pic I see of him shouting with fist in the air even appears staged to me. Like “I know I need to show passion, here’s my best effort”.
When the interviewer asked after the last game about going deep after we scored and she asked “are they told to do that?” he came back quickly and said “no”. If that really is the case, why the hell doesn’t he get onto the touchline when they do that and scream at them? I don’t understand how an England manager can just sit in the dugout and watch the players go against his instructions.
Perhaps we’ll come good against Slovenia and the knockout stages. I sincerely hope so. But for us to be scrambling around in game 3 of a relatively weak group when the likes of Spain, Germany and Portugal have sailed through doesn’t bode well.
The whole Shaw debacle is ridiculous too. We’ve totally been non-functioning down the left side. Trippier has done his best, not his fault, but to not cover left back, surely knowing that Shaw wouldn’t make at least the first 2 games, is ridiculous when he has other left footed left (wing)backs available, such as Leif.
For me, Southgate has lost the plot, as ultimately most England managers amazingly seem to do after a period of time. We need a dynamic, young ,unafraid coach to take over the minute we’re out of this tournament. We have the talent to at least get to the final of this thing, but when you look at how dynamic teams like Spain and Germany are, we’re not in the same ballpark. | | | |
| England players not taking criticism well on 16:50 - Jun 24 with 1628 views | Crawfordsboot |
| England players not taking criticism well on 15:13 - Jun 24 by MattinLondon |
McKenna doesn’t have world class players in his squad. Southgate has a few. |
England play other national teams with their own national stars
Town played other sides in the same division with a similar standard of players
It’s a fair point to comment that they have each had a similar level of success in their respective spheres. | | | |
| England players not taking criticism well on 16:52 - Jun 24 with 1620 views | Illinoisblue |
The cycle will continue:
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