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Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… 15:08 - Jul 22 with 14062 viewsSitfcB



Have heard that contract and personal terms are all done, just waiting on a fee to be agreed with Blackburn.

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Bid rejected on 16:08 - Jul 22 with 3175 viewsScottCandage



https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/24468480.szmodics-transfer-latest-bl
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Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 16:19 - Jul 22 with 3014 viewstractorboy1978

Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 16:07 - Jul 22 by portmanking

Rovers' equivalent of Stuart Watson saying our latest bid has been rejected.

I wonder if we're entering the ballpark that they'd start to consider though, hence Sky's reporters being briefed.


Soon be entering formal transfer request ball park if they won't budge I would think.
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Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 16:21 - Jul 22 with 2981 viewsportmanking

Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 16:19 - Jul 22 by tractorboy1978

Soon be entering formal transfer request ball park if they won't budge I would think.


Been doing some research on benchmark fees for forwards in and around 28y/o.

Ross McCormack (similar style?) left Fulham for Villa in an £11m deal after a similarly fruitful campaign the year before.
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Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 16:24 - Jul 22 with 2956 views_clive_baker_

Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 16:07 - Jul 22 by portmanking

Rovers' equivalent of Stuart Watson saying our latest bid has been rejected.

I wonder if we're entering the ballpark that they'd start to consider though, hence Sky's reporters being briefed.


I heard it suggested it'll take a 7 figure offer to get him out of there. Seems like a mad world when Sammie Szmodics is worth £10m+ if you ask me, despite last season. He's 29 soon and although we're clearly not afraid of spending that sort of money, its generally been on younger players with resale potential.

I've not yet become sufficiently desensitised to premier league money to accept paying £10m for him.
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Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 16:37 - Jul 22 with 2795 viewsRadlett_blue

This is one I'm really unsure about, although you have to assume McKenna knows what he's doing. Was 5'6" Szmodics's 27 goal season a fluke? At 28, he won't have huge sell-on value either. I don't see him playing as a lone striker so he looks set for the no.10 role, where we are already well stocked.

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Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 16:41 - Jul 22 with 2744 viewscatch74

Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 15:18 - Jul 22 by Chris_ITFC

How is Bob’s health these days?


Seemed very chipper in his part in Toast of London.

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Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 16:42 - Jul 22 with 2728 viewsHighgateBlue

Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 16:24 - Jul 22 by _clive_baker_

I heard it suggested it'll take a 7 figure offer to get him out of there. Seems like a mad world when Sammie Szmodics is worth £10m+ if you ask me, despite last season. He's 29 soon and although we're clearly not afraid of spending that sort of money, its generally been on younger players with resale potential.

I've not yet become sufficiently desensitised to premier league money to accept paying £10m for him.


£10m is 8 figures though, surely?
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Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 16:44 - Jul 22 with 2703 viewsDenny32

Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 16:37 - Jul 22 by Radlett_blue

This is one I'm really unsure about, although you have to assume McKenna knows what he's doing. Was 5'6" Szmodics's 27 goal season a fluke? At 28, he won't have huge sell-on value either. I don't see him playing as a lone striker so he looks set for the no.10 role, where we are already well stocked.


If you look up
His history...only 14 goals in 5 years with a few clubs. Then in two seasons with Blackburn 32 goals Iin 78 games...so definitely could be just a one hit wonder .definitely not worth anymore than 7.to 8 million..
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Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 16:45 - Jul 22 with 2677 views_clive_baker_

Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 16:42 - Jul 22 by HighgateBlue

£10m is 8 figures though, surely?


Soz that's what I meant to type.

Sammie Szmodics. 8 figures. Mind blown.
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Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 16:51 - Jul 22 with 2595 viewsreuserfivethree

we bought marcus stewart when he was 28 and he turned out alright...
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Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 16:56 - Jul 22 with 2535 viewsRadlett_blue

Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 16:51 - Jul 22 by reuserfivethree

we bought marcus stewart when he was 28 and he turned out alright...


Stewart was a season and a half wonder. He helped us get promotion - which as the point of the signing - and then had a brilliant first season in the PL (more as a result of his link up play suiting the team).
Yes, if Szmodics fires Town to 5th in the PL, I will eat my words.

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Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 17:07 - Jul 22 with 2433 viewsPhilTWTD

Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 16:24 - Jul 22 by _clive_baker_

I heard it suggested it'll take a 7 figure offer to get him out of there. Seems like a mad world when Sammie Szmodics is worth £10m+ if you ask me, despite last season. He's 29 soon and although we're clearly not afraid of spending that sort of money, its generally been on younger players with resale potential.

I've not yet become sufficiently desensitised to premier league money to accept paying £10m for him.


We won't pay that I'm sure. £8 million was suggested to me as the fee which the clubs might agree when I was first told about it and that still sounds about right. Maybe closer to £10m if they're particularly bloody-minded.
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Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 17:09 - Jul 22 with 2390 viewsSheffordBlue

Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 17:07 - Jul 22 by PhilTWTD

We won't pay that I'm sure. £8 million was suggested to me as the fee which the clubs might agree when I was first told about it and that still sounds about right. Maybe closer to £10m if they're particularly bloody-minded.


As long as a decent amount of that is based on performance related top ups then it wouldn't be too bad.

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Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 17:11 - Jul 22 with 2365 viewstractorboy1978

Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 17:07 - Jul 22 by PhilTWTD

We won't pay that I'm sure. £8 million was suggested to me as the fee which the clubs might agree when I was first told about it and that still sounds about right. Maybe closer to £10m if they're particularly bloody-minded.


I can't see they have a particularly strong hand at all. He will be desperate to make the move - works geographically and no other Prem team (or maybe any team) in for him. Would also assume there was either something contractual or a promise to get him to sign that deal in January too.
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Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 17:12 - Jul 22 with 2364 viewsPhilTWTD

Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 16:07 - Jul 22 by portmanking

Rovers' equivalent of Stuart Watson saying our latest bid has been rejected.

I wonder if we're entering the ballpark that they'd start to consider though, hence Sky's reporters being briefed.


Discussions have been continuing for more than a week. The £6 million was the bid but the two parties have kept talking and continue to do so.
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Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 17:13 - Jul 22 with 2335 viewsportmanking

Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 17:07 - Jul 22 by PhilTWTD

We won't pay that I'm sure. £8 million was suggested to me as the fee which the clubs might agree when I was first told about it and that still sounds about right. Maybe closer to £10m if they're particularly bloody-minded.


Ross McCormack cost Villa 11m from Fulham as a 28-year-old, fresh off scoring 21 goals in the Champ.

Similar style player I'd say. That was almost a decade ago too...

£8m feels decent business in that context.
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Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 17:13 - Jul 22 with 2340 viewsPhilTWTD

Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 17:09 - Jul 22 by SheffordBlue

As long as a decent amount of that is based on performance related top ups then it wouldn't be too bad.


I'd say you're right, might end up as £8m plus another £2m if we stay up, something like that.
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Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 17:13 - Jul 22 with 2319 viewsFrimleyBlue

Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 17:12 - Jul 22 by PhilTWTD

Discussions have been continuing for more than a week. The £6 million was the bid but the two parties have kept talking and continue to do so.


Can we just tell them to offer 8. Get it done. Then get a cm in please.

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Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 17:29 - Jul 22 with 2191 viewsPhilTWTD

Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 17:13 - Jul 22 by portmanking

Ross McCormack cost Villa 11m from Fulham as a 28-year-old, fresh off scoring 21 goals in the Champ.

Similar style player I'd say. That was almost a decade ago too...

£8m feels decent business in that context.


True, but Fulham were probably more secure financially than Blackburn and there may well have been other interest/longer contract etc.
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Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 17:31 - Jul 22 with 2154 viewsportmanking

Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 17:29 - Jul 22 by PhilTWTD

True, but Fulham were probably more secure financially than Blackburn and there may well have been other interest/longer contract etc.


Yeah agreed but, factoring in football inflation, you'd have to say £8m is fair.
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Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 17:44 - Jul 22 with 2022 viewsVegtablue

Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 17:13 - Jul 22 by portmanking

Ross McCormack cost Villa 11m from Fulham as a 28-year-old, fresh off scoring 21 goals in the Champ.

Similar style player I'd say. That was almost a decade ago too...

£8m feels decent business in that context.


That was £11m awfully spent tbf.
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Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 17:47 - Jul 22 with 1987 viewsportmanking

Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 17:44 - Jul 22 by Vegtablue

That was £11m awfully spent tbf.


It was, but I was just trying to find benchmarks for 28yo players sold from the Champ. Andre Gray cost £11m from Burnley to Watford too aged 28.
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Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 17:58 - Jul 22 with 1895 viewsPhilTWTD

Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 17:31 - Jul 22 by portmanking

Yeah agreed but, factoring in football inflation, you'd have to say £8m is fair.


Yes, I think it's about right, probably with a top-up on promotion.
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Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 17:59 - Jul 22 with 1874 viewsVegtablue

Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 17:47 - Jul 22 by portmanking

It was, but I was just trying to find benchmarks for 28yo players sold from the Champ. Andre Gray cost £11m from Burnley to Watford too aged 28.


Ah yes there are some precedents for middle-aged EFL players going for a fair old whack. I do wonder how often buyer's remorse followed these purchases though, and double digits on Szmodics would make losing out on Philogene feel all that more sore.

I've now read the thread properly and see we've honed in on an £8m figure. That to me feels fair business too, providing we're convinced last season is his new normal.
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Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 18:28 - Jul 22 with 1709 viewsRadlett_blue

Advanced talks with Szmodics say Sky… on 17:47 - Jul 22 by portmanking

It was, but I was just trying to find benchmarks for 28yo players sold from the Champ. Andre Gray cost £11m from Burnley to Watford too aged 28.


Yes Andre Gray did well at Burnley, but not particularly well at Watford & they ended up loaning him out to QPR.

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