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Sacking season 09:28 - Oct 30 with 3397 viewsShineyblueknives

Whilst flicking through the cr@p click bait stories of the morning I saw one saying that McKenna will be sacked if he doesn't win the next game...

Would the powers that be, be that stupid?

I've always thought this season would be all about getting the money in.
Buying saleable assets and poss selling on at a profit if we went down, makes perfect business sense considering we still have a few players from the league one days.

What benefit to town would there be in sacking mckenna?
Personally I think it wouldn't and a replacement would make things worse. Just look at all of Alex ferg's replacements.

What's people's opinions?
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Sacking season on 09:35 - Oct 30 with 2817 viewsReuser_is_God

Absolutely no chance that even enters the thoughts of anyone at the club.

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Ashton will sack him at the first opportunity..... on 09:39 - Oct 30 with 2779 viewsBloots

....and appoint himself immediately.

Football will eat itself, but Ashton will eat himself first.

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Where did you see that? on 09:39 - Oct 30 with 2776 viewsDyland

It's almost certainly completely made up :)

And no, the club wouldn't. Only way McKenna goes this season is he's offered a job he feels he can't turn down or he engineers his own sacking. Or maybe if he "loses the dressing room". These are all quite hard to see "ifs" innit.

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Sacking season on 09:42 - Oct 30 with 2747 viewshomer_123

He's already been sacked.

Ade Akinbiyi couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo...
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Sacking season on 09:51 - Oct 30 with 2655 viewsElderGrizzly

Sacking season on 09:35 - Oct 30 by Reuser_is_God

Absolutely no chance that even enters the thoughts of anyone at the club.


Indeed. We fight all summer to keep him, give him a 5 year, £5m a year contract and then sack him after 10 league games?

This isn't Watford.
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Sacking season on 09:54 - Oct 30 with 2635 viewsElderGrizzly

Sacking season on 09:42 - Oct 30 by homer_123

He's already been sacked.


All Deep Fake AI. It's really Sam Allardyce.
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Sacking season on 09:54 - Oct 30 with 2628 viewsDyland

Sacking season on 09:54 - Oct 30 by ElderGrizzly

All Deep Fake AI. It's really Sam Allardyce.


(shudder)

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Sacking season on 09:55 - Oct 30 with 2623 viewstractorboy1978

Sacking season on 09:51 - Oct 30 by ElderGrizzly

Indeed. We fight all summer to keep him, give him a 5 year, £5m a year contract and then sack him after 10 league games?

This isn't Watford.


His job is about the safest in the PL to be honest.
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Sacking season on 09:55 - Oct 30 with 2625 viewsLinners

If we're in the same position as we are now this time next season, in the Championship, then I'd start to think about adding to the agenda of the board meeting.
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Sacking season on 10:33 - Oct 30 with 2493 viewsFrimleyBlue

You'd highly suspect not

But I do think it's a bit OTT for so many people to think it's not a thought of the owners at all this season.

Whilst it's likely they may sit aside and just see what happens and what ever happens we just carry on, we don't know what the owners and the new £100 mill investors want....

IF people have spoken to them personally then fair play, but unless you've had that chat, no one can be sure.

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Sacking season on 10:39 - Oct 30 with 2458 viewsIllinoisblue

Was it in the Dandy or Beano you saw this story?

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Sacking season on 10:56 - Oct 30 with 2350 viewsSitfcB

Naaa I actually had a dream last night he left by mutual consent and we got Thomas Frank in.

McKenna went to Newcastle and George Hirst went with him.

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Sacking season on 11:07 - Oct 30 with 2271 viewsEuropablue

This is just a generic story that would be written by a hack or just AI looking just at the results, which are bad enough for a sacking. If there is money to be made with a gossip article, it will be written.
If you don't have the context or even an idea of how to run a club, you might agree that KM should be sacked.
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Sacking season on 11:12 - Oct 30 with 2258 viewsEuropablue

Sacking season on 10:33 - Oct 30 by FrimleyBlue

You'd highly suspect not

But I do think it's a bit OTT for so many people to think it's not a thought of the owners at all this season.

Whilst it's likely they may sit aside and just see what happens and what ever happens we just carry on, we don't know what the owners and the new £100 mill investors want....

IF people have spoken to them personally then fair play, but unless you've had that chat, no one can be sure.


The question isn't "are results poor and will they ultimately lead to relegation?", the question is "is there anyone out there that we could get in who could do a better job?" and the resounding answer is no.
It's depressing to even talk about this. I'd rather get relegated with KM than survive by the skin of our teeth with a manager who just grinds out results and needs to be sacked after a poor start the next season.
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Sacking season on 11:15 - Oct 30 with 2239 viewsGuthrum

Sacking season on 10:33 - Oct 30 by FrimleyBlue

You'd highly suspect not

But I do think it's a bit OTT for so many people to think it's not a thought of the owners at all this season.

Whilst it's likely they may sit aside and just see what happens and what ever happens we just carry on, we don't know what the owners and the new £100 mill investors want....

IF people have spoken to them personally then fair play, but unless you've had that chat, no one can be sure.


Tho equally, one cannot assume that they want a quick exit. Indeed, what evidence there is, e.g. land purchases and redevelopment plans, would indicate they have a more long-term commitment.

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Sacking season on 11:18 - Oct 30 with 2221 viewsFrimleyBlue

Sacking season on 11:07 - Oct 30 by Europablue

This is just a generic story that would be written by a hack or just AI looking just at the results, which are bad enough for a sacking. If there is money to be made with a gossip article, it will be written.
If you don't have the context or even an idea of how to run a club, you might agree that KM should be sacked.


It's a difficult one tbh without speaking to the owners.

Reasons that no matter what happens he stays
1 - It's a project
2 - The CEO makes it clear there are levels in this game
3 - He's a young manager who's achieved great things already
4 - We could have the ability to bounce back up again
5- 5 year deal will be costly to pay if they did sack him
6- The positives are there, something just needs to click
7 - There's no guarantees a new manager would change anything
8- Maybe relegation was seen as most likely hence the types of signings made

There are also reasons why the owners might not sit by
1 - We've spent rather a lot of money
2 - The investors have also put in a lot of money
3 - Training ground being refurbed - more money
4- CAT 1 being planned for and new staff coming in
5 - Pension Pot owner may want to generate further investments
6- We've attracted some big name sponsors, and losing Eds shirt sponsor for a bigger one next season
7 Prem has us on the global stage - massive thing for the investors
8- there are no guarantees about being able to bounce straight back up
9- Attendances may drop if the buzz fizzes out after the last two years

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Sacking season on 11:21 - Oct 30 with 2202 viewsdavblue

Sacking season on 10:33 - Oct 30 by FrimleyBlue

You'd highly suspect not

But I do think it's a bit OTT for so many people to think it's not a thought of the owners at all this season.

Whilst it's likely they may sit aside and just see what happens and what ever happens we just carry on, we don't know what the owners and the new £100 mill investors want....

IF people have spoken to them personally then fair play, but unless you've had that chat, no one can be sure.


I’d be seriously fcuked off if they do sack him. He deserves all the time in the world here for what he’s done so far. If we do go down, it will be disappointing but not unexpected whether we’ve spent 100 million or not.

I think what these 9 games have shown is how far we’ve been behind these teams having not been in the prem for 22 years.
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Sacking season on 11:25 - Oct 30 with 2176 viewsFrimleyBlue

Sacking season on 11:21 - Oct 30 by davblue

I’d be seriously fcuked off if they do sack him. He deserves all the time in the world here for what he’s done so far. If we do go down, it will be disappointing but not unexpected whether we’ve spent 100 million or not.

I think what these 9 games have shown is how far we’ve been behind these teams having not been in the prem for 22 years.


I would also think it would be the wrong move, but we've seen it many times with other clubs when even fans have loved a manager who's ended up getting sacked. I just don't trust owners.

That isn't to say they aren't sitting quietly in the backround and leaving everything to Mark A which they've done since they've been here, they absolutely could be and you'd hope they are, but it's an uncontrollable and I don't know them, so I can't with confidence say they 100% wouldn't do it.

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Sacking season on 11:29 - Oct 30 with 2145 viewsHighgateBlue

Sacking season on 11:21 - Oct 30 by davblue

I’d be seriously fcuked off if they do sack him. He deserves all the time in the world here for what he’s done so far. If we do go down, it will be disappointing but not unexpected whether we’ve spent 100 million or not.

I think what these 9 games have shown is how far we’ve been behind these teams having not been in the prem for 22 years.


Totally agree. Sorry for the accidental down arrow. Too... tired...
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Sacking season on 11:29 - Oct 30 with 2146 viewsIllinoisblue

Sacking season on 11:18 - Oct 30 by FrimleyBlue

It's a difficult one tbh without speaking to the owners.

Reasons that no matter what happens he stays
1 - It's a project
2 - The CEO makes it clear there are levels in this game
3 - He's a young manager who's achieved great things already
4 - We could have the ability to bounce back up again
5- 5 year deal will be costly to pay if they did sack him
6- The positives are there, something just needs to click
7 - There's no guarantees a new manager would change anything
8- Maybe relegation was seen as most likely hence the types of signings made

There are also reasons why the owners might not sit by
1 - We've spent rather a lot of money
2 - The investors have also put in a lot of money
3 - Training ground being refurbed - more money
4- CAT 1 being planned for and new staff coming in
5 - Pension Pot owner may want to generate further investments
6- We've attracted some big name sponsors, and losing Eds shirt sponsor for a bigger one next season
7 Prem has us on the global stage - massive thing for the investors
8- there are no guarantees about being able to bounce straight back up
9- Attendances may drop if the buzz fizzes out after the last two years


They might sack him because we’re refurbing the training ground?

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Sacking season on 11:34 - Oct 30 with 2125 viewsFrimleyBlue

Sacking season on 11:29 - Oct 30 by Illinoisblue

They might sack him because we’re refurbing the training ground?


Silly me, thought i posted a list of reasons, but you can only see one which wouldn't be a reason on its own, maybe it's your settings?

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Sacking season on 11:37 - Oct 30 with 2104 viewsGuthrum

Sacking season on 11:25 - Oct 30 by FrimleyBlue

I would also think it would be the wrong move, but we've seen it many times with other clubs when even fans have loved a manager who's ended up getting sacked. I just don't trust owners.

That isn't to say they aren't sitting quietly in the backround and leaving everything to Mark A which they've done since they've been here, they absolutely could be and you'd hope they are, but it's an uncontrollable and I don't know them, so I can't with confidence say they 100% wouldn't do it.


I think to some extent it depends upon how much damage would be done by relegation. It seems to me that we have insulated ourselves from its dangers, to some extent.

Aside from parachute payments, we have a number of very saleable assets (potentially including McKenna, if someone serious comes in for him).

It's been acknowleged that we are "ahead of the plan" on the grand scheme for ITFC's development, so it would be a reversion, rather than a massive setback.

Even with a bit of squad churn, we would stand as good a chance as anyone of bouncing straight back up.

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Sacking season on 11:50 - Oct 30 with 2026 viewsibbleobble

Why click click bait? If you don’t it’ll go away, you’ll have more time in your day and your mental health will improve. KM will stay in a job longer and we will have more chance of success. Seems like a no brainer to me.
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Sacking season on 11:56 - Oct 30 with 1986 viewsIllinoisblue

Sacking season on 11:34 - Oct 30 by FrimleyBlue

Silly me, thought i posted a list of reasons, but you can only see one which wouldn't be a reason on its own, maybe it's your settings?


Nice try, but it still doesn’t make sense, either as part of a list or in isolation.

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Sacking season on 12:01 - Oct 30 with 1948 viewsFrimleyBlue

Sacking season on 11:56 - Oct 30 by Illinoisblue

Nice try, but it still doesn’t make sense, either as part of a list or in isolation.


It's a big expense, by an investor, hence it's inclusion, so yes it is part of the list.

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