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So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? 20:44 - Nov 28 with 3081 views

In fact, I don't know how this can be enforceable without some form of Digital ID. Seems the responsibility is going to fall on Social Media platforms ...

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c89vjj0lxx9o

So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? on 20:50 - Nov 28 with 3012 views

PhilTWTD

Think the £25m fine could prove problematic. No idea how we would police that other than to involve some sort of ID.

So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? on 21:03 - Nov 28 with 2927 views

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I knew my VPN could place me in Australia but I did not sign up to an APN (Actual Private Network) transferring the UK to the other side of the world.

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So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? on 21:10 - Nov 28 with 2896 views

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So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? on 20:50 - Nov 28 by PhilTWTD
Think the £25m fine could prove problematic. No idea how we would police that other than to involve some sort of ID.

I think the whole thing is going to be massively problematic. There is a lot of feeling here that this could be Digital ID for everyone via the back door. Will be interesting to see how this unfolds.

So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? on 21:57 - Nov 28 with 2723 views

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So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? on 21:10 - Nov 28 by urbanblue
I think the whole thing is going to be massively problematic. There is a lot of feeling here that this could be Digital ID for everyone via the back door. Will be interesting to see how this unfolds.

Someone from our government has already said that this will be on the cards in UK.

Does social media cover forums though? I don't know. ....

..... or is it more the likes ox twitter, facebook, insta etc???

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So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? on 22:13 - Nov 28 with 2633 views

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So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? on 21:57 - Nov 28 by Lord_Lucan
Someone from our government has already said that this will be on the cards in UK. Does social media cover forums though? I don't know. .... ..... or is it more the likes ox twitter, facebook, insta etc???

No one knows Lucan. I read a day or two ago that someone in parliament has already pointed out that Pornhub would still be accessible ...

So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? on 23:53 - Nov 28 with 2383 views

PhilTWTD

So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? on 21:10 - Nov 28 by urbanblue
I think the whole thing is going to be massively problematic. There is a lot of feeling here that this could be Digital ID for everyone via the back door. Will be interesting to see how this unfolds.

Could we potentially be liable if someone underage in Australia uses the site? Strikes me as unworkable.

So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? on 00:24 - Nov 29 with 2299 views

urbanblue

So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? on 23:53 - Nov 28 by PhilTWTD
Could we potentially be liable if someone underage in Australia uses the site? Strikes me as unworkable.

I just cannot see how the public would accept some of the enforcement options they are looking at. I think the Bill says that Social Media companies cannot ask for verification direct but from a third party. It's ridiculous ...

https://www.reuters.com/technology/after-australia-legislated-teen-social-media-

Edit ... can't use Government ID

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-28/social-media-age-ban-passes-parliament/10

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So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? on 07:08 - Nov 29 with 2012 views

SitfcB

Wouldn’t class TWTD as social media!

That’ll just be aimed at the big guns, Instagram, Facebook, Snapchat and Twitter etc etc.

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So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? on 10:18 - Nov 29 with 1770 views

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So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? on 00:24 - Nov 29 by urbanblue

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That then brings in possibilities of fraud/scamming/theft of data if, say, a credit card registration is required (have seen that on things as innocent as football stats sites).

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So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? on 10:23 - Nov 29 with 1760 views

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So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? on 23:53 - Nov 28 by PhilTWTD
Could we potentially be liable if someone underage in Australia uses the site? Strikes me as unworkable.

How do they plan to prosecute organisations entirely based overseas to Australia? Particularly those in countries with a record of ignoring that kind of thing (e.g. Russia).

Blocking individual websites - like TWTD - would require a lot of infrastructure and monitoring, especially in the age of VPNs.

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So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? on 10:24 - Nov 29 with 1755 views

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So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? on 07:08 - Nov 29 by SitfcB
Wouldn’t class TWTD as social media! That’ll just be aimed at the big guns, Instagram, Facebook, Snapchat and Twitter etc etc.

The dictionary definition of social media is websites and applications that enable users to create and share content or to participate in social networking.

So by that, TWTD is social media. But the legal definition could well be different.

So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? on 10:34 - Nov 29 with 1716 views

baxterbasics

I think it's a great idea in principle and might actually be helpful as a backup to parents struggling to limit a childs online activity.

But agree the enforcement is problematic.

Why not just make it illegal for a child to be in possession of a smartphone. For parents wanting to keep in touch, go back to Nokia brick phones, pagers and tracking devices.

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So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? on 12:52 - Nov 29 with 1574 views

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So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? on 20:50 - Nov 28 by PhilTWTD
Think the £25m fine could prove problematic. No idea how we would police that other than to involve some sort of ID.

Nearly every brewery/beer site on the interweb enforces an over 18 policy.

They put the responsibility back on the user, if you proceed to the site after the challenge prompt confirming you were 18, if you are then under 18 and were lying you are then breaking the T&Cs of access to the site, which legally covers them it would seem.

Same with Instagram which already has age restricted content, you confirm your birthday, if you lie or fake it, you've broken T&Cs of the account.

The reality is it helps nobody, other than make some busybodies feel smugly satisfied about making a difference.

So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? on 13:03 - Nov 29 with 1542 views

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So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? on 10:24 - Nov 29 by MattinLondon
The dictionary definition of social media is websites and applications that enable users to create and share content or to participate in social networking. So by that, TWTD is social media. But the legal definition could well be different.

People dont social network on here. They just fight. Actually, just like "real" social media!

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So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? on 13:06 - Nov 29 with 1514 views

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So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? on 10:23 - Nov 29 by Guthrum
How do they plan to prosecute organisations entirely based overseas to Australia? Particularly those in countries with a record of ignoring that kind of thing (e.g. Russia). Blocking individual websites - like TWTD - would require a lot of infrastructure and monitoring, especially in the age of VPNs. [Post edited 29 Nov 2024 10:23]

Indeed. And ff they're not going to look to prosecute the likes of TWTD, then surely the likes of Facebook could just base themselves outside Australia.

So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? on 13:13 - Nov 29 with 1449 views

WeWereZombies

So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? on 10:24 - Nov 29 by MattinLondon
The dictionary definition of social media is websites and applications that enable users to create and share content or to participate in social networking. So by that, TWTD is social media. But the legal definition could well be different.

The TWTD forum was social media even before the term was coined, makes you wonder what else we are doing that is ahead of the curve, it's the puns isn't it ? Gradually language will dissolve into punning and lose all meaning.

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So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? on 15:27 - Nov 29 with 1338 views

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So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? on 13:13 - Nov 29 by WeWereZombies
The TWTD forum was social media even before the term was coined, makes you wonder what else we are doing that is ahead of the curve, it's the puns isn't it ? Gradually language will dissolve into punning and lose all meaning.

Punning? Language?

Well that's Dogon crazy.

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So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? on 15:33 - Nov 29 with 1320 views

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So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? on 15:27 - Nov 29 by You_Bloo_Right
Punning? Language? Well that's Dogon crazy.

Now I am confused and going to open myself of misunderstanding to the extent of making an 'auto correct ?' suggestion as I think you may have meant Diogenes Laertus and not mali a tribe in West Africa...

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So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? on 17:59 - Nov 29 with 1201 views

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So Phil, how are you going to police this one then? on 15:33 - Nov 29 by WeWereZombies
Now I am confused and going to open myself of misunderstanding to the extent of making an 'auto correct ?' suggestion as I think you may have meant Diogenes Laertus and not mali a tribe in West Africa...

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