| Assad gone 07:57 - Dec 8 with 8214 views | Guthrum |
Hopefully the Syrian rebels stick to their moderate line, can cooperate and the future is brighter for that nation. |  |
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| Assad gone on 15:50 - Dec 9 with 971 views | Mullet |
| Assad gone on 15:48 - Dec 9 by bluelagos |
Indeed.
Europa's idea of natural countries - is more than a bit limited in it's usefulness. Even places like Aus - it kind of falls down when you factor in that some people lived there for 000s of years before they were "settled" - so even they are hardly a natural country at all. |
The same people?!?! Ya big racist! Aborigines are apparently really different a diverse too! Let alone they came from ancient Sri Lanka I think. |  |
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| Assad gone on 15:51 - Dec 9 with 964 views | DanTheMan |
| Assad gone on 15:32 - Dec 9 by bluelagos |
What's the natural England/Wales geographical barrier? |
In places, it does form along natural landmarks e.g. River Wye. |  |
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| Assad gone on 15:52 - Dec 9 with 952 views | Europablue |
| Assad gone on 15:29 - Dec 9 by Mullet |
England is not a natural country by your own logic. Hence why it rarely has been and a lot of what you’re talking about his revisionism from around the Victorian era.
I don’t really care about you let alone not liking you. You’ve just got a terrible grasp of history, culture, politics and geography it seems and are making duff points.
Even East Anglia is a construct from the results of foreign invasion and trade! |
That you think my points are bad in all those areas, makes me feel at least good about them.
It's not that I have a bad grasp, the problem is that I don't agree with you.
We don't know each other, so I am certain that neither of us think about the other enough to think of each other outside of this forum.
My point is that you try and judge what I say without even reading it properly and then without asking me to further explain my point you just fill in the gaps.
By all means point out the gaps in my ideas, then I will adjust them, but if you just ridicule me, I'll assume your criticisms don't have any substance. Other posters on this forum will explore an idea and give me something to think about.
My own logic is that either an ethnic group or a delimited area of land forms a natural country. The defining characteristic is a country that can be governed and defended effectively enough to maintain the country over time. I would say that Ireland is a natural country because even though a lot of effort was put into forced assimilation, it was not effective enough to make Ireland English. |  | | |
| Assad gone on 15:53 - Dec 9 with 953 views | bluelagos |
| Assad gone on 15:50 - Dec 9 by Mullet |
The same people?!?! Ya big racist! Aborigines are apparently really different a diverse too! Let alone they came from ancient Sri Lanka I think. |
I picked up a hitch hiker once in Aus - he was as white as me, and he explained he was an Aborigine.
He gave quite a few good insights - invited me for dinner too :-) |  |
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| Assad gone on 15:56 - Dec 9 with 932 views | Europablue |
| Assad gone on 15:34 - Dec 9 by DJR |
Are you joking? |
Partly, I lived in Belgium and I've met a lot of Belgians. Most of them agree it's not a proper country.  It is really two distinct regions (three if you include the German speaking part). | | | |
| Assad gone on 15:58 - Dec 9 with 933 views | Mullet |
| Assad gone on 15:52 - Dec 9 by Europablue |
That you think my points are bad in all those areas, makes me feel at least good about them.
It's not that I have a bad grasp, the problem is that I don't agree with you.
We don't know each other, so I am certain that neither of us think about the other enough to think of each other outside of this forum.
My point is that you try and judge what I say without even reading it properly and then without asking me to further explain my point you just fill in the gaps.
By all means point out the gaps in my ideas, then I will adjust them, but if you just ridicule me, I'll assume your criticisms don't have any substance. Other posters on this forum will explore an idea and give me something to think about.
My own logic is that either an ethnic group or a delimited area of land forms a natural country. The defining characteristic is a country that can be governed and defended effectively enough to maintain the country over time. I would say that Ireland is a natural country because even though a lot of effort was put into forced assimilation, it was not effective enough to make Ireland English. |
Which is why every other response has made the same criticism of your points and you’re trying to make it personal? Even when the forum has been rather gentle with you?
You’ve shown up your ignorance and instead of owning it you’ve just tried to pick an argument. Honestly, go read a little history of England let alone the rest of this island. | |
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| Assad gone on 16:00 - Dec 9 with 928 views | blueasfook |
I see the rat has showed up in Russia. Gone running to Uncle Vlad to give him protection. If he'd stayed in Syria, he'd be missing his head by now. |  |
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| Assad gone on 16:01 - Dec 9 with 915 views | Europablue |
| Assad gone on 15:42 - Dec 9 by DJR |
One could ask the same about Scotland because a line drawn across the country north of the central belt is a more correct geographical division because it differentiates the Highlands from the Lowlands, the mountains in the latter being much more akin to the Pennines.
As it is, Scotland once had separate areas with Picts, Angles, Scotti, Britons and Vikings, and its formation as a single country has much more to do with history than geography.
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History is so influenced by geography, it is often difficult to see where the two are distinct. | | | |
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| Assad gone on 16:03 - Dec 9 with 923 views | bluelagos |
| Assad gone on 16:00 - Dec 9 by blueasfook |
I see the rat has showed up in Russia. Gone running to Uncle Vlad to give him protection. If he'd stayed in Syria, he'd be missing his head by now. |
Yep, but he will only be safe as long as Putin remains in power. A few years down the line and what use is he to whoever follows Putin?
The ICC will be waiting so fingers crossed he can still see a trial. The evidence will be fairly compelling am sure. | |
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| Assad gone on 16:06 - Dec 9 with 901 views | Europablue |
| Assad gone on 15:48 - Dec 9 by bluelagos |
Indeed.
Europa's idea of natural countries - is more than a bit limited in it's usefulness. Even places like Aus - it kind of falls down when you factor in that some people lived there for 000s of years before they were "settled" - so even they are hardly a natural country at all. |
I was factoring in Australia when I said islands of a certain size. Australia is not a natural country in my conception. | | | |
| Assad gone on 16:07 - Dec 9 with 905 views | blueasfook |
| Assad gone on 16:03 - Dec 9 by bluelagos |
Yep, but he will only be safe as long as Putin remains in power. A few years down the line and what use is he to whoever follows Putin?
The ICC will be waiting so fingers crossed he can still see a trial. The evidence will be fairly compelling am sure. |
When Putin finally goes, I am sure the work will have been done to prepare the ground for a like-minded successor sadly. Elections are rigged and hierarchy corrupt to the core. They'll do everything they can to insure that succession.
Only a revolution or a coup can break the grip that Putin and his cronies have on power. | |
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| Assad gone on 16:13 - Dec 9 with 902 views | bluelagos |
| Assad gone on 16:07 - Dec 9 by blueasfook |
When Putin finally goes, I am sure the work will have been done to prepare the ground for a like-minded successor sadly. Elections are rigged and hierarchy corrupt to the core. They'll do everything they can to insure that succession.
Only a revolution or a coup can break the grip that Putin and his cronies have on power. |
Maybe, maybe not.
There was radio discussion earlier of the Serbian guys who I am sure were every bit as confident as Assad that they were immune from justice.
No one knows how it will play out - but he has no guarantee of an easy life. | |
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| Assad gone on 16:16 - Dec 9 with 886 views | Europablue |
| Assad gone on 15:32 - Dec 9 by bluelagos |
What's the natural England/Wales geographical barrier? |
I can't work out how to post an image, but you can check it out here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_of_Wales
There is a distinct difference.
In general the spread of languages is limited by geography. Welsh is very distinct from English as languages go. | | | |
| Assad gone on 16:25 - Dec 9 with 864 views | Europablue |
| Assad gone on 15:58 - Dec 9 by Mullet |
Which is why every other response has made the same criticism of your points and you’re trying to make it personal? Even when the forum has been rather gentle with you?
You’ve shown up your ignorance and instead of owning it you’ve just tried to pick an argument. Honestly, go read a little history of England let alone the rest of this island. |
If you think I don't know my history quote me saying something historically inaccurate. The concept of a natural country is just an opinion, not fact. I don't even know if that idea is a general concept or if I just coined the phrase.
If you think you know history so well, go and read a book about how geography influences history or if you prefer check out RealLifeLore on youtube. | | | |
| Assad gone on 16:26 - Dec 9 with 871 views | bluelagos |
| Assad gone on 16:16 - Dec 9 by Europablue |
I can't work out how to post an image, but you can check it out here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_of_Wales
There is a distinct difference.
In general the spread of languages is limited by geography. Welsh is very distinct from English as languages go. |
Kin hell.
You carry on pal - I'll leave you to educate the board on things you clearly know next to nothing about.
Enjoy yer evening. | |
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| Assad gone on 16:31 - Dec 9 with 858 views | ronnyd |
| Assad gone on 15:40 - Dec 9 by bluelagos |
Wasn't Belgium invented to keep the French and Germans apart? Obviously it's a real country at the moment - but it was artificial when first created?
I am very much of the opinion that all countries are social constructs albeit some have been around a lot longer than others and some have far more uniformity in their populations.
But be a lot fcking easier if we could all just get along. |
Can't even do that on here at times. | | | |
| Assad gone on 16:33 - Dec 9 with 843 views | bluelagos |
| Assad gone on 16:31 - Dec 9 by ronnyd |
Can't even do that on here at times. |
"at times" ? | |
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| Assad gone on 16:34 - Dec 9 with 842 views | leitrimblue |
| Assad gone on 15:33 - Dec 9 by Mullet |
He’s gonna think the beaker people are toddlers. |
Well if they do insist on drinking from those little plastic sippy cups |  | | |
| Assad gone on 16:41 - Dec 9 with 812 views | Radlett_blue |
| Assad gone on 16:03 - Dec 9 by bluelagos |
Yep, but he will only be safe as long as Putin remains in power. A few years down the line and what use is he to whoever follows Putin?
The ICC will be waiting so fingers crossed he can still see a trial. The evidence will be fairly compelling am sure. |
Most of these very rich, ex-dictators buy their way into some sort of haven e.g. Saudi Arabia. [Post edited 9 Dec 2024 18:27]
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| Assad gone on 16:43 - Dec 9 with 798 views | Mullet |
| Assad gone on 16:25 - Dec 9 by Europablue |
If you think I don't know my history quote me saying something historically inaccurate. The concept of a natural country is just an opinion, not fact. I don't even know if that idea is a general concept or if I just coined the phrase.
If you think you know history so well, go and read a book about how geography influences history or if you prefer check out RealLifeLore on youtube. |
Here you go: https://www.twtd.co.uk/members/Europablue | |
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| Assad gone on 17:06 - Dec 9 with 754 views | Europablue |
| Assad gone on 16:26 - Dec 9 by bluelagos |
Kin hell.
You carry on pal - I'll leave you to educate the board on things you clearly know next to nothing about.
Enjoy yer evening. |
You seemed to have had a sudden tone change.
"educate the board", that kind of reflects on how you view the function of a forum and maybe why you took so much offense.
I'm just putting an idea out there and seeing what people think. I'm not trying to teach you anything.
Enjoy your evening too. :) | | | |
| Assad gone on 17:08 - Dec 9 with 754 views | Europablue |
So a clever way of not giving a specific response.
Let's just ignore each other from now, to save each other time! | | | |
| Assad gone on 17:12 - Dec 9 with 756 views | EdwardStone |
| Assad gone on 15:51 - Dec 9 by DanTheMan |
In places, it does form along natural landmarks e.g. River Wye. |
Offa's Dyke is part of the barrier to keep the revolting Welsh at bay
Although who Offa was is shrouded in mystery
And we don't know why he owned a lesbian |  | | |
| Assad gone on 17:29 - Dec 9 with 719 views | leitrimblue |
| Assad gone on 16:16 - Dec 9 by Europablue |
I can't work out how to post an image, but you can check it out here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_of_Wales
There is a distinct difference.
In general the spread of languages is limited by geography. Welsh is very distinct from English as languages go. |
I think Welsh is an old Celtic language. Probably descended from the earlier Celtic/Gaelic languages previously spoken all over the British Isles | | | |
| Assad gone on 17:55 - Dec 9 with 680 views | eireblue |
| Assad gone on 17:06 - Dec 9 by Europablue |
You seemed to have had a sudden tone change.
"educate the board", that kind of reflects on how you view the function of a forum and maybe why you took so much offense.
I'm just putting an idea out there and seeing what people think. I'm not trying to teach you anything.
Enjoy your evening too. :) |
Well, you didn’t really put an idea out there.
You stated something as fact.
“ Seeing as Syria is not a natural country”
Without really defining what a “natural country” is initially, and then being rather nebulous in your definition. Size of island and defensibility seem to come into play. Which would be rather a shame for non-violent cultures, they would all go the way of the Dodo, anyhoo that’s a bit of an aside.
My main point.
Why don’t you start a series of new posts called Europablues new concepts and definitions.
The once the definition and/or concept has been well established, posters can then engage with you on how you want to apply those definitions and concepts.
I am sure you will get a degree of interest, and less fractiousness. |  | | |
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