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Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. 16:17 - Dec 8 with 3690 viewsNeedhamChris

There are enough places on the bench to accommodate either Greaves or Woolfenden to go 5 at the back.

Poor subs that didn't offer us anything.

A slightly less poor man's Russell Martin on this season alone.

Edit: to be clear, more than enough credit in the bank. But how much worse off by now do people think we'd be had he gone to Brighton?
[Post edited 8 Dec 2024 16:19]

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Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:18 - Dec 8 with 2841 viewsMK1

Wow.

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Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:19 - Dec 8 with 2820 viewsBluecasp

Agree. I find the lack of a centre half on the bench puzzling.
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Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:24 - Dec 8 with 2681 viewsMK1

Doubled down with the edit. Good work.

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Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:25 - Dec 8 with 2674 viewsVaughan8

I don't understand why there is no centre back in the subs?

Also is Clarke a player to bring on to hold onto a lead or gold the ball up to waste some time. Not really.
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Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:26 - Dec 8 with 2630 viewsStewart27

Piss off
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Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:27 - Dec 8 with 2600 viewsRyorry

Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:25 - Dec 8 by Vaughan8

I don't understand why there is no centre back in the subs?

Also is Clarke a player to bring on to hold onto a lead or gold the ball up to waste some time. Not really.


Confidence and belief by Ryorry 8 Dec 2024 16:19
Is it just me, or has he become uncharacteristically inflexible this season compared with our promotion ones? His policy of not having a CB on the bench does seem rigid & risky.

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Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:34 - Dec 8 with 2460 viewsNeedhamChris

Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:27 - Dec 8 by Ryorry

Confidence and belief by Ryorry 8 Dec 2024 16:19
Is it just me, or has he become uncharacteristically inflexible this season compared with our promotion ones? His policy of not having a CB on the bench does seem rigid & risky.

[Post edited 8 Dec 2024 16:32]


I agree, does feel like that

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Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:41 - Dec 8 with 2372 viewsNeedhamChris

Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:18 - Dec 8 by MK1

Wow.


The Russell Martin comment is borne out of emotion, but other than that what are you disagreeing with?

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Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:44 - Dec 8 with 2320 viewsMK1

Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:41 - Dec 8 by NeedhamChris

The Russell Martin comment is borne out of emotion, but other than that what are you disagreeing with?


Who would have replaced him?

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Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:46 - Dec 8 with 2286 viewsNeedhamChris

Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:44 - Dec 8 by MK1

Who would have replaced him?


I'm not saying he should be replaced. I'm just saying he is finding the PL above his level so far.

Do you think he's having a successful season?

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Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:48 - Dec 8 with 2227 viewsMK1

Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:46 - Dec 8 by NeedhamChris

I'm not saying he should be replaced. I'm just saying he is finding the PL above his level so far.

Do you think he's having a successful season?


In your edit, you said we would be no worse off had he gone to Brighton. So, who would have replaced him?

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Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:49 - Dec 8 with 2200 viewsalgy

Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:44 - Dec 8 by MK1

Who would have replaced him?


There is no shortage of managers at home and abroad who would have wanted to manage us given the chance. Could they have done worse than 9 points out of 45?

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Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:52 - Dec 8 with 2149 viewsMK1

Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:49 - Dec 8 by algy

There is no shortage of managers at home and abroad who would have wanted to manage us given the chance. Could they have done worse than 9 points out of 45?


So who? It's easy to say just change the manager, but who is this person? Name please.

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Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:53 - Dec 8 with 2120 viewsNeedhamChris

Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:48 - Dec 8 by MK1

In your edit, you said we would be no worse off had he gone to Brighton. So, who would have replaced him?


For £5m a year we'd have had a lot of choices. To be clear - you believe there's no-one out there at all that could have got 9 from 45?

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Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:53 - Dec 8 with 2115 viewsalgy

Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:52 - Dec 8 by MK1

So who? It's easy to say just change the manager, but who is this person? Name please.


That's not how it works and you know it.

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Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:54 - Dec 8 with 2108 viewspointofblue

Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:52 - Dec 8 by MK1

So who? It's easy to say just change the manager, but who is this person? Name please.


Not that I agree with the overall nature of the OP, but Graham Potter for one.

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Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:57 - Dec 8 with 2018 viewsMK1

Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:54 - Dec 8 by pointofblue

Not that I agree with the overall nature of the OP, but Graham Potter for one.


The same Graham Potter who is currently being paid £10M a year by Chelsea? The same Graham Potter who has (allegedly) been offered better and turned it down. He thinks he is a top 4 manager. No way he would have come here in the summer.

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Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:59 - Dec 8 with 1960 viewsMK1

Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:53 - Dec 8 by algy

That's not how it works and you know it.


How does it work then? How can you say plenty of options, then not give even one option?

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Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 17:00 - Dec 8 with 1936 viewspointofblue

Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:57 - Dec 8 by MK1

The same Graham Potter who is currently being paid £10M a year by Chelsea? The same Graham Potter who has (allegedly) been offered better and turned it down. He thinks he is a top 4 manager. No way he would have come here in the summer.


He's ruddy deluded if he thinks he's a top four manager! But I can see why he'd hold on to his Chelsea paycheck for as long as possible.

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Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 17:02 - Dec 8 with 1905 viewsStokieBlue

Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:53 - Dec 8 by algy

That's not how it works and you know it.


It's exactly how it works.

Chris has made an assertion, it's up to him to back up that assertion.

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Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 17:02 - Dec 8 with 1899 viewsDropCliffsNotBombs

21 months later, and the circle of tears is nearly complete.


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Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 17:05 - Dec 8 with 1858 viewsRyorry

Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 17:02 - Dec 8 by DropCliffsNotBombs

21 months later, and the circle of tears is nearly complete.




Ouch - and the original posted on Valentine's Day too

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Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 17:05 - Dec 8 with 1841 viewsNeedhamChris

Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:59 - Dec 8 by MK1

How does it work then? How can you say plenty of options, then not give even one option?


Van Nistelrooy
The Brighton manager
Moyes
Southgate
Potter
Ljinders
Rodgers
Marsch

And many many more.

I'd still choose McKenna, but your insistence that he's outperforming what any one could possibly be achieving here is nonsense.

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Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 17:06 - Dec 8 with 1827 viewsMK1

Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 16:53 - Dec 8 by NeedhamChris

For £5m a year we'd have had a lot of choices. To be clear - you believe there's no-one out there at all that could have got 9 from 45?


With a L1 squad who total over performed the season before. This squad is in a massive transition stage and a very, very quick learning curve. Nobody can say whether a different manager could have done better or worse, so it is a pointless argument from the both of you. The only name put forward by someone else was Graham Potter, which was laughable to be honest.
It isn't just the players who are learning at this level. McKenna will make mistakes, of course he will, but we hope that he learns from them. To bomb him out at this stage would be a massive mistake in my opinion.

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Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 17:07 - Dec 8 with 1804 viewsNeedhamChris

Not just the players who are finding the Premier League above their level. on 17:02 - Dec 8 by DropCliffsNotBombs

21 months later, and the circle of tears is nearly complete.




That was an emotional response to a terrible Bristol Rovers game that I've owned as wrong many times.

Today may well be the same, I'll be happier next year in the Championship again

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