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VAR 23:42 - Dec 21 with 1925 views

Does any football fan really want to wait 2 minutes to celebrate a goal? It was pathetic today, just give the goal or don’t. I love that we’re back in the top flight, but this version of it is really awful, and it really doesn’t have to be.

VAR on 23:58 - Dec 21 with 1866 views

Facefacts

Looked offside from the whole pitch picture shown near the end of the highlights.

No lines drawn, we were done by VAR again.

The assistant's call was 100% right.

VAR on 00:03 - Dec 22 with 1848 views

Blueschev

VAR on 23:58 - Dec 21 by Facefacts
Looked offside from the whole pitch picture shown near the end of the highlights. No lines drawn, we were done by VAR again. The assistant's call was 100% right.

Whether it was right or wrong wasn’t really my point, they were right far more than they were wrong before VAR and all that happened since it’s introduction is that fans and players have had the euphoria of scoring a goal taken away from them. The best part of the game! What morons wanted this crap?!

VAR on 00:05 - Dec 22 with 1837 views

DublinBlue84

VAR on 23:58 - Dec 21 by Facefacts
Looked offside from the whole pitch picture shown near the end of the highlights. No lines drawn, we were done by VAR again. The assistant's call was 100% right.

The line that was drawn looked dead level from what I saw at worst.

It wasn't clear or obvious.

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VAR on 03:59 - Dec 22 with 1725 views

BonchosBicycle

I'll say it again. My opinion is that if the ref makes a call, and if nobody's positive it's wrong within 20 seconds then it should stand. It's meant to catch obvious errors, not endlessly litigate toes and elbows millimetres beyond an imaginary line.

VAR on 06:03 - Dec 22 with 1675 views

urbanblue

VAR on 00:05 - Dec 22 by DublinBlue84
The line that was drawn looked dead level from what I saw at worst. It wasn't clear or obvious.

On the live stream VAR never showed the red line like they normally do. Thought that was strange at the time ... unless I missed it??

VAR on 08:23 - Dec 22 with 1538 views

lazyblue

If for Ipswich then yes

VAR on 08:40 - Dec 22 with 1515 views

Scuzzer

To me it was more like three minutes. Then the Newcastle players then all went back into our half to celebrate...weird football nowadays.

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VAR on 08:46 - Dec 22 with 1505 views

ITFC_Forever

VAR on 08:40 - Dec 22 by Scuzzer
To me it was more like three minutes. Then the Newcastle players then all went back into our half to celebrate...weird football nowadays. [Post edited 22 Dec 2024 8:41]

It was…. I looked at the scoreboard when it hit the net and it was 26 seconds.

It was past 3 min 26 when it was finally awarded.

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VAR on 09:01 - Dec 22 with 1460 views

MVBlue

Or are we willing to risk relegation by a diving cheating Van Nistelroy denying us a deserved point like 2002.

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VAR on 09:02 - Dec 22 with 1452 views

hoppy

VAR on 08:46 - Dec 22 by ITFC_Forever
It was…. I looked at the scoreboard when it hit the net and it was 26 seconds. It was past 3 min 26 when it was finally awarded.

Exactly that. So I was surprised at the end of the half that only 4 mins had been added, as that VAR check had taken a full 3 minutes plus on its own, before they then celebrated. With two further goals, how was it only 4 added?!

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VAR on 09:04 - Dec 22 with 1449 views

EastTownBlue

VAR on 06:03 - Dec 22 by urbanblue
On the live stream VAR never showed the red line like they normally do. Thought that was strange at the time ... unless I missed it??

A green line is shown if the two usual lines touch so the margin of error and the benefit of the doubt goes to the attacking team. Offside could have been the correct call.

VAR on 09:06 - Dec 22 with 1433 views

Mark

I agree, we need instant decision making. This is live football, not a court case! VAR is diminishing my enjoyment of football and taking away the spontaneous enjoyment of celebrating goals. Why 19 out of 20 Premier League clubs voted to keep the system, I do not know. I read the EFL are looking to introduce a cheaper version of VAR too, for reasons I am unclear of.

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VAR on 09:15 - Dec 22 with 1370 views

RamRob

VAR on 00:05 - Dec 22 by DublinBlue84
The line that was drawn looked dead level from what I saw at worst. It wasn't clear or obvious.

Unfortunately 'clear and obvious' isn't applied to offsides as it's treated as a black and white issue: you're either on or off.

The problem with that is it's subjective when the ball is played, what frame do they use if the ball was played between two? At the moment the ball is touched or after it leaves the foot?

But as it was such a close call, the argument could be raised that the lino should never have flagged

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VAR on 09:17 - Dec 22 with 1366 views

urbanblue

VAR on 09:04 - Dec 22 by EastTownBlue
A green line is shown if the two usual lines touch so the margin of error and the benefit of the doubt goes to the attacking team. Offside could have been the correct call.

I didn't see any lines shown ...

VAR on 09:28 - Dec 22 with 1325 views

sotd78

Seems relatively simple to me. For fouls etc two people get to see three camera angles in real time perhaps twice. If they can't overturn the on field decision it stands. For offside you get 60 seconds to draw a line. Again if you can't overturn the decision it stays with the on-field decision.
Still with semi automated offside coming and AI we may see it quicken. Sadly VAR is here to stay. With the arrival of more American owners I wouldn't be surprised to see them turn the on-pitch reviews into Ad Breaks. We could also have two drinks breaks each half. Imagine that! Think of the revenue streams Sky etc could extract there!!!
Thank God I'm 66 coming to the end of my football days. Compared to years gone by this modern game has been spoiled by VAR, fifty camera angles, reversed slo mo, etc. It's no longer the same game.

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VAR on 09:39 - Dec 22 with 1268 views

RonFearonsHair

The whole thing is pathetic and a stain on the league. I felt embarrassed that I had taken my boys to see such nonsense.
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VAR on 09:50 - Dec 22 with 1236 views

Basuco

The semi auto VAR is instant for off sides but the PL do not want to use it, there is not a delay like this in any other Country that use VAR, it is how PL refs choose to use it. The PL appear to want long delay for some reason as when watching a game on TV it is often obvious that a goal is on or off side, but there is still a long delay.

VAR on 09:57 - Dec 22 with 1218 views

DublinBlue84

VAR on 06:03 - Dec 22 by urbanblue
On the live stream VAR never showed the red line like they normally do. Thought that was strange at the time ... unless I missed it??

There was only one line which was suspicious

Compared to two lines in other matches

Have no faith in VAR, another tool to help the big clubs.

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VAR on 10:20 - Dec 22 with 1153 views

GeoffSentence

VAR on 00:03 - Dec 22 by Blueschev
Whether it was right or wrong wasn’t really my point, they were right far more than they were wrong before VAR and all that happened since it’s introduction is that fans and players have had the euphoria of scoring a goal taken away from them. The best part of the game! What morons wanted this crap?!

Normally the FA is keen to back the on field officials to the hilt. This seems to be me to be an area where it makes sense to. If the off field team find it difficult, just go with the lino.
Naturally enough, we'll get hurt by them doing just that later on in the season.

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VAR on 12:20 - Dec 22 with 1042 views

EastTownBlue

VAR on 09:50 - Dec 22 by Basuco
The semi auto VAR is instant for off sides but the PL do not want to use it, there is not a delay like this in any other Country that use VAR, it is how PL refs choose to use it. The PL appear to want long delay for some reason as when watching a game on TV it is often obvious that a goal is on or off side, but there is still a long delay.

They do want to use it but the PL (for whatever reason) are using a different provider to UEFA and FIFA. This has increased the time to test and is unlikely to be ready this season as it isn't reliable enough.

VAR on 14:35 - Dec 22 with 933 views

TexacoCup

VAR on 09:15 - Dec 22 by RamRob

[Post edited 22 Dec 2024 9:17]

I absolutely agree with paras 1 & 2, I was reasonably in line in the West stand and it looked very offside, it was closer than it appeared at the time, so I think the lino was correct - lot of it comes down to when they freeze frame the initial kick.
The VAR photo doesn't look overly clear!

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