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Saturday's defensive show was out of character in recent games 10:01 - Dec 24 with 1703 viewsDubtractor

We can all agree that Saturday was horrible, and could easily have been a much worse scoreline, but worth keeping calm and bearing in mind that it was out of character with our recent defensive form.

Since the start of November (excluding Saturday!) we'd conceded 8 goals in 7 games - the sort of defensive record that would give us an excellent chance of survival if we could maintain it, and no coincidence that we'd got 2 wins and 2 draws in that run of tighter defending.

I don't think you can over state the impact of missing a proper physical number 9 with the system we play, it meant we had no real threat at all, and allowed Newcastle to press and press without the ball, and attack in greater numbers with it.

Really does emphasise the importance of getting another proper striker option in January as we can't rely on Hirst being fit (a shame as I think he is excellent otherwise), and Al Hamadi, for all his endeavour, isn't at the standard we need at the moment.

I think its also worth bearing in mind that both Southampton and Leicester have taken some hammerings recently - whilst that isn't something we want to aspire to, it's the reality of getting promoted to this league.

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Saturday's defensive show was out of character in recent games on 11:14 - Dec 24 with 1583 viewsPique

Absolutely, and on your last paragraph, worth adding that Palace, West Ham and Everton (and Man City!) have also all taken good pastings in the last few weeks. It's the nature of a league in which virtually every team has world class goalscorers. Doesn't make you a bad team, we need to remember that.
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Saturday's defensive show was out of character in recent games on 11:37 - Dec 24 with 1530 viewsRadlett_blue

And Hamadi also doesn't seem fit enough to play more than 30 minutes.

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Saturday's defensive show was out of character in recent games on 11:48 - Dec 24 with 1513 viewstextbackup

If we don’t bring in a striker in January we are as good as down, regardless of if Hirst keeps fit, and Delap grabs a few more goals.
Need someone up there with PL experience and know how.

No idea if we even looked at him, but Jordan Ayew would have been a great signing for us in the summer

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Saturday's defensive show was out of character in recent games on 13:00 - Dec 24 with 1424 viewsitfc_statman

I wouldn't say it's out of character. Wolves was a slightly better defensive performance but vs Brighton they actually created more than Newcastle. Again, big chances given up to Palace. It's not new, and ignoring a 5 game spell inbetween the start and now, we've not learnt whatsoever.
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Saturday's defensive show was out of character in recent games on 13:13 - Dec 24 with 1400 viewsibbleobble

We could have conceded three or four against Wolves but got away with it.
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Saturday's defensive show was out of character in recent games on 13:34 - Dec 24 with 1368 viewsDubtractor

Saturday's defensive show was out of character in recent games on 13:13 - Dec 24 by ibbleobble

We could have conceded three or four against Wolves but got away with it.


That's nonsense, to be frank.

Wolves had a 15 minute spell after their goal, where they had a few half chances, buy otherwise created little.

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Saturday's defensive show was out of character in recent games on 14:08 - Dec 24 with 1327 viewsSuffolktractor

Agree with you.
Saturday was the first time we have been outclassed this season. Also bear in mind we were missing two of our best players in Delap and Tuanzebe, both of whom would have made a difference. Not saying we would have won but they would have given Newcastle something to think about.
It’s credit to the team that this our first proper thrashing of the season, hopefully McKenna and his crew will see where we went wrong and sort it out.
This is a seriously big test of a team like us that has come through 2 promotions to reach this level.
Unfortunately sometimes you have accept you will come up against a really good team in really good form.
Keep the faith!
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Saturday's defensive show was out of character in recent games on 14:08 - Dec 24 by Suffolktractor

Agree with you.
Saturday was the first time we have been outclassed this season. Also bear in mind we were missing two of our best players in Delap and Tuanzebe, both of whom would have made a difference. Not saying we would have won but they would have given Newcastle something to think about.
It’s credit to the team that this our first proper thrashing of the season, hopefully McKenna and his crew will see where we went wrong and sort it out.
This is a seriously big test of a team like us that has come through 2 promotions to reach this level.
Unfortunately sometimes you have accept you will come up against a really good team in really good form.
Keep the faith!


Everton gave us a lesson too.

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Saturday's defensive show was out of character in recent games on 14:58 - Dec 24 with 1254 viewsthe_toff

Saturday's defensive show was out of character in recent games on 13:00 - Dec 24 by itfc_statman

I wouldn't say it's out of character. Wolves was a slightly better defensive performance but vs Brighton they actually created more than Newcastle. Again, big chances given up to Palace. It's not new, and ignoring a 5 game spell inbetween the start and now, we've not learnt whatsoever.


Is it an inability to learn or is it just that we're playing against better sides with better players. If it was that easy to learn to shut out these teams everyone would be doing it.
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Saturday's defensive show was out of character in recent games on 17:38 - Dec 24 with 1187 viewsSuffolktractor

Saturday's defensive show was out of character in recent games on 14:54 - Dec 24 by textbackup

Everton gave us a lesson too.


Everton didn’t give us a lesson. They just outmuscled us at times and we were not at our best. Had VAR not intervened we would have been back to 1-1 and who knows what would have happened.
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Saturday's defensive show was out of character in recent games on 18:34 - Dec 24 with 1144 viewsRobTheMonk

Hirst is one of those players that you don't realise how much he offers until he's not playing.
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Saturday's defensive show was out of character in recent games on 17:38 - Dec 24 by Suffolktractor

Everton didn’t give us a lesson. They just outmuscled us at times and we were not at our best. Had VAR not intervened we would have been back to 1-1 and who knows what would have happened.


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Saturday's defensive show was out of character in recent games on 22:10 - Dec 24 by textbackup

Ifs and buts won’t help us


They do, however, inform insightful intelligent analysis.
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