| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line 13:33 - Jan 7 with 17487 views | blueasfook |
That's a staggering (and shameful) 21% of the population. Absolutely disgraceful for one of the world's leading economies. |  |
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| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 19:59 - Jan 10 with 1211 views | WeWereZombies |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 19:45 - Jan 10 by brazil1982 |
What an ignorant post, another excuse the knock the British. How do you know what the estimated 284,000 Brits are doing for work?
The largest sector is in education. There are surprising numbers also in manufacturing, mining and the science sector - with a caveat that these stats are 12 years old. But you two just continue with the lazy stereotype of drunken overweight Brits by the sea. |
You make an interesting point, although you could have left the insult out, but your post would have more weight if you provide a link to the numbers and, even better, a post Brexit update. |  |
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| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 21:31 - Jan 10 with 1172 views | DJR |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 19:45 - Jan 10 by brazil1982 |
What an ignorant post, another excuse the knock the British. How do you know what the estimated 284,000 Brits are doing for work?
The largest sector is in education. There are surprising numbers also in manufacturing, mining and the science sector - with a caveat that these stats are 12 years old. But you two just continue with the lazy stereotype of drunken overweight Brits by the sea. |
284,000 is of course the number of Britons living in Spain, not working.
The most recent figures I have seen indicate 41% are over 65 and only 5% are less than 15. The average age is 55, in contrast to the Spanish average age of 40, something which again indicates a relatively old population. And there will be many Brits in their 50s who will have sold up in the UK and moved there to retire early with the lower cost of living.
I don't begrudge them at all, and none of the people I have come across in the area I most visit in Spain I would regard as drunken overweight Brits by the sea. And nor did I describe the Brits as such.
As regards education, I would imagine that is down to the large number of British schools in Spain (something that seems evidence of a lack of integration). Most British schools are affiliated to the National Association of British Schools, which according to Wikipedia has 52 member schools. There are also other international schools where the teaching will be in English.
The vast majority of Brits live in the Valencian Region and Andalucia, and very few live in provinces that don't border the Med.
As it is, I know the southern end of the Valencia Region very well, and I would still stick with what I said about the vast majority of Brits who work serving the British community.
I might add that the diversion of this thread on to Spain came about as a result of a throwaway line of mine giving the Brits in Spain as an example of a failure to integrate. That was in the context of comments about immigrants to the UK failing to integrate. And I would still maintain that many Brits in Spain don't properly integrate.
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| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 07:59 - Jan 11 with 1040 views | WeWereZombies |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 21:31 - Jan 10 by DJR |
284,000 is of course the number of Britons living in Spain, not working.
The most recent figures I have seen indicate 41% are over 65 and only 5% are less than 15. The average age is 55, in contrast to the Spanish average age of 40, something which again indicates a relatively old population. And there will be many Brits in their 50s who will have sold up in the UK and moved there to retire early with the lower cost of living.
I don't begrudge them at all, and none of the people I have come across in the area I most visit in Spain I would regard as drunken overweight Brits by the sea. And nor did I describe the Brits as such.
As regards education, I would imagine that is down to the large number of British schools in Spain (something that seems evidence of a lack of integration). Most British schools are affiliated to the National Association of British Schools, which according to Wikipedia has 52 member schools. There are also other international schools where the teaching will be in English.
The vast majority of Brits live in the Valencian Region and Andalucia, and very few live in provinces that don't border the Med.
As it is, I know the southern end of the Valencia Region very well, and I would still stick with what I said about the vast majority of Brits who work serving the British community.
I might add that the diversion of this thread on to Spain came about as a result of a throwaway line of mine giving the Brits in Spain as an example of a failure to integrate. That was in the context of comments about immigrants to the UK failing to integrate. And I would still maintain that many Brits in Spain don't properly integrate.
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Agree with most of that apart from the education numbers being down to a failure of the English to integrate (doesn't apply to the Scots as no one understands them when they speak English, including some other Scots, so they have to learn Spanish...) Just from observation I would say that adverts for language schools in Spain are aimed at Spaniards who have the aspiration of working abroad (probably the United States) so the British teachers are likely to be based fairly evenly all over the Iberian peninsula.
All that being said when I was in Spain as a child I went to an English speaking school and only learnt maybe a hundred words of Spanish. I did do Spanish school later in life for a couple of weeks but that was in Guatemala. | |
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| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 08:59 - Jan 11 with 982 views | DJR |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 07:59 - Jan 11 by WeWereZombies |
Agree with most of that apart from the education numbers being down to a failure of the English to integrate (doesn't apply to the Scots as no one understands them when they speak English, including some other Scots, so they have to learn Spanish...) Just from observation I would say that adverts for language schools in Spain are aimed at Spaniards who have the aspiration of working abroad (probably the United States) so the British teachers are likely to be based fairly evenly all over the Iberian peninsula.
All that being said when I was in Spain as a child I went to an English speaking school and only learnt maybe a hundred words of Spanish. I did do Spanish school later in life for a couple of weeks but that was in Guatemala. |
Yes, I'd forgotten about TEFL, although it doesn't require knowledge of the native language.
As it is, I imagine it's virtually impossible these days to do TEFL in Spain because that would require a visa, and given the small margins I can't imagine language schools wanting to go down that route for those without an EU passport. This is certainly the case with British and international schools in the EU which these days tend to require an EU passport. In this sense, I suppose Britain's loss is Ireland's (and those of Irish descent's) gain.
As it is, with Brexit, I imagine the British population in Spain will gradually decrease as it ages and is not replaced. It's already been happening for some time, with some choosing to return to the UK, and as I know there are plenty of Scandinavians and Germans happy to buy the homes of Brits.
And as an aside,, here is evidence of a British presence in Spain which dates to the 5th century CE.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britonia [Post edited 11 Jan 9:20]
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| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 09:28 - Jan 14 with 658 views | DJR |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 08:59 - Jan 11 by DJR |
Yes, I'd forgotten about TEFL, although it doesn't require knowledge of the native language.
As it is, I imagine it's virtually impossible these days to do TEFL in Spain because that would require a visa, and given the small margins I can't imagine language schools wanting to go down that route for those without an EU passport. This is certainly the case with British and international schools in the EU which these days tend to require an EU passport. In this sense, I suppose Britain's loss is Ireland's (and those of Irish descent's) gain.
As it is, with Brexit, I imagine the British population in Spain will gradually decrease as it ages and is not replaced. It's already been happening for some time, with some choosing to return to the UK, and as I know there are plenty of Scandinavians and Germans happy to buy the homes of Brits.
And as an aside,, here is evidence of a British presence in Spain which dates to the 5th century CE.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britonia [Post edited 11 Jan 9:20]
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Following on from my observation that the British population in Spain will decline, here is an interesting development.
Spain plans 100% tax for homes bought by non-EU residents
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr7enzjrymxo | | | |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 09:32 - Jan 14 with 642 views | Ryorry |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 09:28 - Jan 14 by DJR |
Following on from my observation that the British population in Spain will decline, here is an interesting development.
Spain plans 100% tax for homes bought by non-EU residents
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr7enzjrymxo |
Devon, Cornwall, Yorkshire Dales and other holiday destinations in UK should do the same! |  |
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| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 09:33 - Jan 14 with 632 views | DJR |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 09:32 - Jan 14 by Ryorry |
Devon, Cornwall, Yorkshire Dales and other holiday destinations in UK should do the same! |
Absolutely. | | | |
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| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 09:34 - Jan 14 with 619 views | positivity |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 09:32 - Jan 14 by Ryorry |
Devon, Cornwall, Yorkshire Dales and other holiday destinations in UK should do the same! |
and southwold! |  |
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| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 10:20 - Jan 14 with 553 views | WeWereZombies |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 09:32 - Jan 14 by Ryorry |
Devon, Cornwall, Yorkshire Dales and other holiday destinations in UK should do the same! |
Or allow holiday homes to be used as squats when they are not being let out, it's good for a house to have occupants rather than being empty (and I mean that in the way that a house stays in better condition if the occupants look after it.) | |
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| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 10:23 - Jan 14 with 551 views | Benters |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 09:34 - Jan 14 by positivity |
and southwold! |
And Cromer. |  |
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| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 10:37 - Jan 14 with 530 views | Ryorry |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 10:20 - Jan 14 by WeWereZombies |
Or allow holiday homes to be used as squats when they are not being let out, it's good for a house to have occupants rather than being empty (and I mean that in the way that a house stays in better condition if the occupants look after it.) |
Local people need the security of proper homes long term, so no (unless an interim measure between other arrangements). | |
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| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 10:45 - Jan 14 with 512 views | WeWereZombies |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 10:37 - Jan 14 by Ryorry |
Local people need the security of proper homes long term, so no (unless an interim measure between other arrangements). |
Squatters can be local people too. | |
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