| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line 13:33 - Jan 7 with 17470 views | blueasfook |
That's a staggering (and shameful) 21% of the population. Absolutely disgraceful for one of the world's leading economies. |  |
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| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 16:59 - Jan 9 with 1633 views | reusersfreekicks |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 12:24 - Jan 9 by Zapers |
It’s a partnership Ryorry, different skill sets.
She has 4 degrees, I don’t.
She looks after the babies, I earn the money.
Not that unusual when you are in a relationship.
How’s your doggie? |
Why does that division of labour come as no surprise to me
And why are the ones moaning most about immigration living abroad! (And Bentley) |  | | |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 17:07 - Jan 9 with 1594 views | lowhouseblue |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 16:59 - Jan 9 by reusersfreekicks |
Why does that division of labour come as no surprise to me
And why are the ones moaning most about immigration living abroad! (And Bentley) |
"And why are the ones moaning most about immigration living abroad!"
while that's a good line, current polls show that 70% of the uk population think immigration is too high, a record number, and only 15% think it's about right. so you're actually in a tiny minority on this one. |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 17:14 - Jan 9 with 1563 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 13:12 - Jan 9 by leitrimblue |
So are you suggesting that having a minimum income level makes it impossible to be culturally alien?
Or are you suggesting that the fact they attain a minimum income level means they don't need to understand the 'cultural values and norms'? |
No, it was in reference to the medical burden point. The other points are pretty irrelevant tbh. Cultural and religious differences between Spain and U.K. are minimal. I have lived in both countries |  | | |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 17:16 - Jan 9 with 1550 views | positivity |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 17:07 - Jan 9 by lowhouseblue |
"And why are the ones moaning most about immigration living abroad!"
while that's a good line, current polls show that 70% of the uk population think immigration is too high, a record number, and only 15% think it's about right. so you're actually in a tiny minority on this one. |
he said "moaning most", not moaning a bit, it certainly seems to be true on here! | |
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| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 17:33 - Jan 9 with 1523 views | leitrimblue |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 17:14 - Jan 9 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
No, it was in reference to the medical burden point. The other points are pretty irrelevant tbh. Cultural and religious differences between Spain and U.K. are minimal. I have lived in both countries |
There's enormous cultural and religious differences between Spain and the UK. I'm surprised if you lived there you wouldn't notice that.
Obviously Catholicism and the whole opus thing to begin with. Believe me Spanish people don't tend to think that they share a similar culture with yer average Guiri  |  | | |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 17:34 - Jan 9 with 1519 views | GlasgowBlue |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 10:28 - Jan 8 by Zapers |
Apologies, yes 5 years. However,
Last year nearly a million calls to the DWP universal credit helpline required an interpreter.
Would you agree that it is a significant amount, at a significant cost. |
They would only be able to claim benefits if their application to stay was successful. Unfortunately, the last government cut the funding for successful applicants to learn English. So they now repl on interpreters.
That is self defeating as it costs more in interpreters for individual applicants than it does in proving English lessons for groups. |  |
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| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 18:07 - Jan 9 with 1466 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 17:33 - Jan 9 by leitrimblue |
There's enormous cultural and religious differences between Spain and the UK. I'm surprised if you lived there you wouldn't notice that.
Obviously Catholicism and the whole opus thing to begin with. Believe me Spanish people don't tend to think that they share a similar culture with yer average Guiri |
The cultural differences are very minor. Spanish people love boozing and partying until (very) late. Religion plays a very small part in most younger Spanish people’s lives in most metropolitan areas. I’m not saying the culture is the same (thank goodness) but the differences are very small! | | | |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 18:10 - Jan 9 with 1462 views | DJR |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 17:33 - Jan 9 by leitrimblue |
There's enormous cultural and religious differences between Spain and the UK. I'm surprised if you lived there you wouldn't notice that.
Obviously Catholicism and the whole opus thing to begin with. Believe me Spanish people don't tend to think that they share a similar culture with yer average Guiri |
That's nonsense! When I go there, there are row upon row of bars serving full English breakfast, which indicates no real cultural difference. |  | | |
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| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 18:14 - Jan 9 with 1445 views | GlasgowBlue |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 17:33 - Jan 9 by leitrimblue |
There's enormous cultural and religious differences between Spain and the UK. I'm surprised if you lived there you wouldn't notice that.
Obviously Catholicism and the whole opus thing to begin with. Believe me Spanish people don't tend to think that they share a similar culture with yer average Guiri |
Not that much difference. I lived and worked in the Canaries for two years. | |
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| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 18:25 - Jan 9 with 1420 views | Ryorry |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 12:24 - Jan 9 by Zapers |
It’s a partnership Ryorry, different skill sets.
She has 4 degrees, I don’t.
She looks after the babies, I earn the money.
Not that unusual when you are in a relationship.
How’s your doggie? |
Round here, the more usual arrangement is that the most skilled, qualified partner works in an external job so as to earn the most dosh, whilst the other, less skilled or qualified half, irrespective of gender, "looks after the babies".
Mutt's fine thanks, tho hating the weather - not enjoying walking on 15 inches of iced snow, only to intermittently hit a soft patch and plunge down into the icy depths up to his belly! |  |
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| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 18:35 - Jan 9 with 1390 views | WeWereZombies |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 18:25 - Jan 9 by Ryorry |
Round here, the more usual arrangement is that the most skilled, qualified partner works in an external job so as to earn the most dosh, whilst the other, less skilled or qualified half, irrespective of gender, "looks after the babies".
Mutt's fine thanks, tho hating the weather - not enjoying walking on 15 inches of iced snow, only to intermittently hit a soft patch and plunge down into the icy depths up to his belly! |
I met one of my neighbours out walking yesterday, she has a couple of corgis. They had their coats on but seemed to be enjoying their outing. |  |
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| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 18:40 - Jan 9 with 1372 views | Ryorry |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 18:35 - Jan 9 by WeWereZombies |
I met one of my neighbours out walking yesterday, she has a couple of corgis. They had their coats on but seemed to be enjoying their outing. |
Was she elderly, wearing a skirt & headscarf with one carefully rolled curl peeking out at each side, and of a ghostly hue? | |
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| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 18:41 - Jan 9 with 1372 views | DJR |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 18:07 - Jan 9 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
The cultural differences are very minor. Spanish people love boozing and partying until (very) late. Religion plays a very small part in most younger Spanish people’s lives in most metropolitan areas. I’m not saying the culture is the same (thank goodness) but the differences are very small! |
Not my view, and not I imagine the view of the average Spaniard. In any event, it fails to take into account the fact that there is not one Spanish culture or language.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Spain | | | |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 18:48 - Jan 9 with 1353 views | WeWereZombies |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 18:40 - Jan 9 by Ryorry |
Was she elderly, wearing a skirt & headscarf with one carefully rolled curl peeking out at each side, and of a ghostly hue? |
Actually she's quite young and Czech by birth, but fluent in English and partnered to a Scot. | |
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| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 18:55 - Jan 9 with 1345 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 18:41 - Jan 9 by DJR |
Not my view, and not I imagine the view of the average Spaniard. In any event, it fails to take into account the fact that there is not one Spanish culture or language.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Spain |
We weren’t talking about different elements of Spanish culture, it was a general conversation! It most certainly would be the view of most Spaniards. I’m very much getting the impression that you haven’t spent much time in Spain, with Spanish people? As I said, the differences are extremely minor. Not sure how we got into this point tbh, but it’s pretty clear you don’t really know what you are talking about. | | | |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 18:59 - Jan 9 with 1340 views | Swansea_Blue |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 13:21 - Jan 9 by leitrimblue |
Some of the English expats in Spain are a strange enough bunch. I mean if you've decided to spend the rest of your life in a country then it's a strange enough decision to make to not to bother to learn the language.
Especially when it's a easy enough language to learn ( compared to something like Thai I imagine) and one we have a lot of experience of from holidaying there etc |
Based on the number of English cafes in the main holiday resorts, people are more likely learn Cockney than Spanish! |  |
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| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 19:15 - Jan 9 with 1324 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 18:59 - Jan 9 by Swansea_Blue |
Based on the number of English cafes in the main holiday resorts, people are more likely learn Cockney than Spanish! |
Pretty grim stuff, but not representative of the majority of U.K. culture! The median Spanish citizen will be culturally very similar to the median U.K. citizen - especially from major metropolitan areas in both countries imho | | | |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 19:34 - Jan 9 with 1292 views | GlasgowBlue |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 18:59 - Jan 9 by Swansea_Blue |
Based on the number of English cafes in the main holiday resorts, people are more likely learn Cockney than Spanish! |
una cerveza
Una baguette con ensalada de queso, sin mantequilla ni pepino, por favor.
Eres muy hermosa
quiero hacerte el amor contigo
That's all you need to survive my friend.
[Post edited 9 Jan 19:35]
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| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 21:16 - Jan 9 with 1232 views | DJR |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 18:55 - Jan 9 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
We weren’t talking about different elements of Spanish culture, it was a general conversation! It most certainly would be the view of most Spaniards. I’m very much getting the impression that you haven’t spent much time in Spain, with Spanish people? As I said, the differences are extremely minor. Not sure how we got into this point tbh, but it’s pretty clear you don’t really know what you are talking about. |
Wow! I express a different view to you and you choose to insult me.
Since 1987 (38 years ago), and apart from around Covid, I have spent on average three times a year in Spain (for at least a week at a time), travelling widely and avoiding as much as possible fellow Brits or British bars and the like. Indeed, when I was a bit younger, I often immersed myself in situations and for periods where there were no English speakers, which made me pretty fluent as well as getting to know Spanish people well.
Sadly, I don't do that as much as I used to, so my fluency has suffered a little, but I like to think over the years that I have acquired a pretty good view of Spain and the Spanish. And the fact that I have a different view to you is just life, not grounds for abuse. [Post edited 9 Jan 21:40]
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| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 22:08 - Jan 9 with 1164 views | NedPlimpton |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 17:07 - Jan 9 by lowhouseblue |
"And why are the ones moaning most about immigration living abroad!"
while that's a good line, current polls show that 70% of the uk population think immigration is too high, a record number, and only 15% think it's about right. so you're actually in a tiny minority on this one. |
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people, Jeremy |  | | |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 23:54 - Jan 9 with 1098 views | WeWereZombies |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 22:08 - Jan 9 by NedPlimpton |
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people, Jeremy |
I didn't realise Coldplay were around in the early 1930s, explains a lot... | |
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| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 02:42 - Jan 10 with 1045 views | Zapers |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 18:07 - Jan 9 by BlibbiBlob1976 |
The cultural differences are very minor. Spanish people love boozing and partying until (very) late. Religion plays a very small part in most younger Spanish people’s lives in most metropolitan areas. I’m not saying the culture is the same (thank goodness) but the differences are very small! |
Having lived in Spain, yes lived as opposed to holidaying for a week here and there, I completely agree with you. We had Spanish friends and found their mentality similar to that of British people. Cultural differences were not noticed, but that's perhaps because we are blessed to be so well travelled and used to living in various different countries. | | | |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 04:26 - Jan 10 with 1016 views | Benters |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 17:07 - Jan 9 by lowhouseblue |
"And why are the ones moaning most about immigration living abroad!"
while that's a good line, current polls show that 70% of the uk population think immigration is too high, a record number, and only 15% think it's about right. so you're actually in a tiny minority on this one. |
Of course it’s too high nothing can cope.
It’s only going to get worse if someone isn’t brave enough to put a cap on the amount of people we have coming in. |  |
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| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 04:46 - Jan 10 with 1006 views | Benters |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 16:59 - Jan 9 by reusersfreekicks |
Why does that division of labour come as no surprise to me
And why are the ones moaning most about immigration living abroad! (And Bentley) |
Don’t be soft mate there are millions like me. | |
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| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 05:07 - Jan 10 with 1000 views | Ryorry |
| 14 million people in the UK live below the poverty line on 04:46 - Jan 10 by Benters |
Don’t be soft mate there are millions like me. |
Our education system is in need of drastic improvement then (as if we didn't already know). | |
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