| Postocoglu gets hammered for his defending 09:08 - Feb 23 with 960 views | Blue_Heath |
Yet watching their defence support the right back to contain Davis was Champions League compared to watching Conference South Godfrey albeit he was left exposed.
McKenna has been brilliant but I don't understand how such an educated and knowledgeable man cannot see how vulnerable our right back is match after match. Maybe because of where I sit I get a great view of this so perhaps I am missing something?
I said to a Spurs friend before KO whoever plays left wing will win it for you and surprise, surprise 2 assists from Son down that side.
For me McKenna has a big job on his hands next season as he needs to sort this and find a midfield that actually functions as well as replacing the inevitable loss of Delap and possibly Hutchinson.
He's earnt the right to do this don't get me wrong but also keeping Broadhead/Philogene/Clarke, Walton/Muric/Slicker/Palmer etc happy won't be easy either.
Please someone educate me to as why I am wrong with sensible debate rather than the inevitable downvote or support the team type post. |  | | |  |
| Postocoglu gets hammered for his defending on 09:15 - Feb 23 with 909 views | TractorWood |
McKenna has bought players to play a very defined system with zero tactical adaption.
Playing a 4 in defence yesterday was pretty ridiculous. Especially when one is Leif who wants to get forward and can't really defend.
We then have 3 lightweight, head down flair players who don't really know anything other than relentless attacking which just gets us down cul de sacs in the Prem.
It's all well and good saying we were robbed and the ref was a joke but play that game again today and you get exactly the same outcome. |  |
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| Postocoglu gets hammered for his defending on 09:20 - Feb 23 with 880 views | homer_123 |
| Postocoglu gets hammered for his defending on 09:15 - Feb 23 by TractorWood |
McKenna has bought players to play a very defined system with zero tactical adaption.
Playing a 4 in defence yesterday was pretty ridiculous. Especially when one is Leif who wants to get forward and can't really defend.
We then have 3 lightweight, head down flair players who don't really know anything other than relentless attacking which just gets us down cul de sacs in the Prem.
It's all well and good saying we were robbed and the ref was a joke but play that game again today and you get exactly the same outcome. |
The system is highly adaptable. We can play 5, 4 or 3 across the back. We've shown we can play on the break, albeit not overly consistently. So to say we don't adapt is wrong.
As for playing the game today, I'm pretty sure had we taken 1 of those guilt edge chances in the first 5 mins....you see a different Spurs and a different result. |  |
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| Postocoglu gets hammered for his defending on 09:20 - Feb 23 with 875 views | FrimleyBlue |
It is worrying that fans see something and then it happens.
I said the same as you on here before the game our right side will be an issue and I was right. So you're not alone with your thoughts.
Let's be fair to the the team we played well.
But I still believe you're better in the prem when you end up as a back 5 when ever the opposition have the ball.
Most sides even top sides do this.
Our issues were getting from this into an attacking outlet. I think we should have continued with this and worked on the transition rather than reverting to the 4.
I liked the Aston villa pressing game. And I liked how we did it yesterday. But you can't kept that up as we found.. but once that press stops and you don't revert to the 5 you've then got issues which is how I felt yesterday when south. |  |
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| Postocoglu gets hammered for his defending on 09:30 - Feb 23 with 821 views | Blue_Heath |
| Postocoglu gets hammered for his defending on 09:20 - Feb 23 by homer_123 |
The system is highly adaptable. We can play 5, 4 or 3 across the back. We've shown we can play on the break, albeit not overly consistently. So to say we don't adapt is wrong.
As for playing the game today, I'm pretty sure had we taken 1 of those guilt edge chances in the first 5 mins....you see a different Spurs and a different result. |
Maybe if we had scored first would it be different, it was so early. I am sure Spurs would have come back into it.
I just find it so frustrating that I go to the game knowing what is about to happen. Play Townsend and instruct the attacker on the right to help defend it's not rocket science.
At this level it's hard to score 3 goals in a game, conceding 2 each week means we rarely win, even in 94/5 we won 5 at home! [Post edited 23 Feb 9:33]
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| Postocoglu gets hammered for his defending on 09:32 - Feb 23 with 797 views | textbackup |
Made us look patehtic |  |
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| Postocoglu gets hammered for his defending on 09:35 - Feb 23 with 765 views | Blue_Heath |
| Postocoglu gets hammered for his defending on 09:20 - Feb 23 by homer_123 |
The system is highly adaptable. We can play 5, 4 or 3 across the back. We've shown we can play on the break, albeit not overly consistently. So to say we don't adapt is wrong.
As for playing the game today, I'm pretty sure had we taken 1 of those guilt edge chances in the first 5 mins....you see a different Spurs and a different result. |
That was a poor Spurs team yesterday lets be honest with many players missing.
Son is their best player and should have been doubled up on. | | | |
| Postocoglu gets hammered for his defending on 09:40 - Feb 23 with 728 views | homer_123 |
| Postocoglu gets hammered for his defending on 09:30 - Feb 23 by Blue_Heath |
Maybe if we had scored first would it be different, it was so early. I am sure Spurs would have come back into it.
I just find it so frustrating that I go to the game knowing what is about to happen. Play Townsend and instruct the attacker on the right to help defend it's not rocket science.
At this level it's hard to score 3 goals in a game, conceding 2 each week means we rarely win, even in 94/5 we won 5 at home! [Post edited 23 Feb 9:33]
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If we are pragmatic you have to understand and acknowledge that teams at this level have players that are simply better than ours.
It's easy, in hindsight, to say we should have spent the season parking the bus with a back 5 and 4 in front. Play on the break etc.
It's interesting as your post is about the 10th I've read this morning that talks about one or two small changes but with an expectation it resolves everything.
This season is what it is. We've had a go, staying within our principles, recruiting in a sensible way to build a better squad, we've shown we can compete at this level in many ways but not quite consistently enough.
KM is still young, still learning.
If we go down, we go down. We won't have gone without a fight. | |
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| Postocoglu gets hammered for his defending on 09:46 - Feb 23 with 693 views | Blue_Heath |
| Postocoglu gets hammered for his defending on 09:40 - Feb 23 by homer_123 |
If we are pragmatic you have to understand and acknowledge that teams at this level have players that are simply better than ours.
It's easy, in hindsight, to say we should have spent the season parking the bus with a back 5 and 4 in front. Play on the break etc.
It's interesting as your post is about the 10th I've read this morning that talks about one or two small changes but with an expectation it resolves everything.
This season is what it is. We've had a go, staying within our principles, recruiting in a sensible way to build a better squad, we've shown we can compete at this level in many ways but not quite consistently enough.
KM is still young, still learning.
If we go down, we go down. We won't have gone without a fight. |
Disagree with the fight part, at 3-1/4-1 down we just laboured the ball across back 4 when we had it. Similar to Southampton at 2-1.
Most games we have a 20 minute spell where we look good in which we either don't score or then concede to first proper attack, heads drop, game is done.
I fully appreciate it's a massive step up and we are way ahead of schedule etc but our team spirit is done. The togetherness we had from L1/Championship has gone and our momentum now is a backward one.
I fully expected us to go down, have tried to enjoy this season but have hated most of it. Roll on the Championship and let's finally beat that yellow filth. | | | |
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| Postocoglu gets hammered for his defending on 09:50 - Feb 23 with 669 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Postocoglu gets hammered for his defending on 09:40 - Feb 23 by homer_123 |
If we are pragmatic you have to understand and acknowledge that teams at this level have players that are simply better than ours.
It's easy, in hindsight, to say we should have spent the season parking the bus with a back 5 and 4 in front. Play on the break etc.
It's interesting as your post is about the 10th I've read this morning that talks about one or two small changes but with an expectation it resolves everything.
This season is what it is. We've had a go, staying within our principles, recruiting in a sensible way to build a better squad, we've shown we can compete at this level in many ways but not quite consistently enough.
KM is still young, still learning.
If we go down, we go down. We won't have gone without a fight. |
Think the thing is we've seen various forms of forward lineup ups without seeing any form of change in a few areas to see if it did make a difference.
The hirst inclusion for me is the biggest one.
We spent the last couple of seasons defending our strikers non goal scoring attributes because of how they made goals, spaces etc for our other forwards.
This season however we've maintained the usage on the striker who has scored 43% of our goals.
We've seen Clarke. Philogene. Hutch. Broady. Yet when ever broady has played he's looked one of our better players yet he's been bombed to the bench again for reasons unknown.
We've maintained the league usage of davis despite our defensive issues this season.. it may not make a difference. But the key thing Is, we've not tried something else so we don't know.
The right side.. it was always balanced with either
A roaming fullback with an inverted fullback
However some of our better times have been a defensive fullback with a right footed wide winger. Stick clarke there and see what happens.
These are of course just a supporters view. But when things don't bring results. It's OK to wonder what else could he tried to see what it brings. | |
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| Postocoglu gets hammered for his defending on 09:50 - Feb 23 with 667 views | ITFCSG |
Its because Spurs were playing other established Prem teams and looked sh*te because both teams had enough ability to cancel each other out. Watching their match vs ManUre most people would remark how garbage they were and how pedestrian the match was but once again vs teams like us they turn into a footballing masterclass because our squad is still nowhere near theirs even with them underperforming. The same story repeats itself when we play with other middling clubs such as Everton, Palace, Brentford, West Ham, Brighton or even trash like Saints. How much you'd want to bet we'd make ManUre look like Fergie's Treble Winners on Wednesday?
Everyone can see that Davis and Godfrey/Johnson are the weak links and get ripped a new one match after match yet McK still sticks to them. Granted Tuanzebe is suspended but I'd start Townsend against Prem attackers. Our backline has never been strong even in the Championship (remember the 2 Leeds games last season) but at least we could outscore the opposition most of the times. Now we concede even more but fail to respond up top. | | | |
| Postocoglu gets hammered for his defending on 10:11 - Feb 23 with 580 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Postocoglu gets hammered for his defending on 09:46 - Feb 23 by Blue_Heath |
Disagree with the fight part, at 3-1/4-1 down we just laboured the ball across back 4 when we had it. Similar to Southampton at 2-1.
Most games we have a 20 minute spell where we look good in which we either don't score or then concede to first proper attack, heads drop, game is done.
I fully appreciate it's a massive step up and we are way ahead of schedule etc but our team spirit is done. The togetherness we had from L1/Championship has gone and our momentum now is a backward one.
I fully expected us to go down, have tried to enjoy this season but have hated most of it. Roll on the Championship and let's finally beat that yellow filth. |
"Our team spirit is done". What a ridiculous comment.
I hate this well trodden path of explaining away being beaten by better teams as a lack of effort or lack of fight or a lack of team spirit. | | | |
| Postocoglu gets hammered for his defending on 10:35 - Feb 23 with 515 views | bournemouthblue |
| Postocoglu gets hammered for his defending on 09:35 - Feb 23 by Blue_Heath |
That was a poor Spurs team yesterday lets be honest with many players missing.
Son is their best player and should have been doubled up on. |
It's the strongest team they have named for a while I would suggest
I think if we'd played like that a month ago against them, we'd have had a better chance |  |
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